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What The Press Is Getting Wrong About Solyndra

September 19, 2011 5:01 pm ET — 77 Comments

In the rush to cover the bankruptcy of Solyndra, a solar panel manufacturer that received a loan guarantee from the federal government, many news media outlets have misrepresented or omitted key facts.

CLAIM: Bush Administration Rejected Solyndra's Application

  • ABC News: Under Bush administration, credit committee "made a unanimous decision not to offer a loan commitment to Solyndra." [ABC News, 9/13/11]
  • Fox Nation: "Bush Admin. Voted AGAINST Solyndra Loan." [Fox Nation, 9/14/11]
  • FoxNews.com: Bush credit committee "decided 'not to engage in further discussions with Solyndra.'" [FoxNews.com, 9/14/11]
  • America's Newsroom: "In January of 2009 the Bush Administration considered it. They backed away from it. But then the checks started going out." [Fox News, America's Newsroom, 9/16/11]
  • Bill O'Reilly: The Bush administration "shut it down. And then as soon as the president, the current president, Obama took office they started it up again." [Fox News, The O'Reilly Factor, 9/16/11, via Nexis]
  • Fox's David Asman: Bush administration "nixed the loans." [Fox Business, America's Nightly Scoreboard, 9/17/11, via Nexis]
  • Fox's Stephen Hayes: "Bush administration "cut off the discussions with Solyndra." [Fox News, Special Report, 9/15/11, via Nexis]

FACT: Same Panel Of Career Officials Approved The Loan Guarantee

Bush Admin. Advanced 16 Projects, Including Solyndra, Out Of 143 Submissions. The Department of Energy's Loan Guarantee Program was created by the Energy Policy Act of 2005 and expanded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. At a congressional hearing, Jonathan Silver, the Executive Director of Department of Energy's Loan Programs Office, testified that the Bush administration's DOE [Department of Energy] selected Solyndra from 143 submissions to move forward in the process:

SILVER: The 2006 solicitation resulted in 143 submissions. The loan program staff and others at the department reviewed those for eligibility, which is a thinner review than the full due diligence, and recommended 16 applications to file a full application. A dozen did so. Solyndra was one of those. And the department conducted due diligence on all of those 11. [House Energy and Commerce Committee, 9/14/11, via Nexis]

Under Bush Admin., The Credit Committee Remanded The Project "For Further Development Of Information." During the final days of the Bush administration, the Department of Energy's loan guarantee credit committee, consisting of career officials, said that although the Solyndra project "appears to have merit," the committee needed more information in several areas before it could recommend approval of a conditional commitment. The committee "remand[ed]" the loan "without prejudice" for "further development of information." [Credit Committee, 9/9/09, via Huffington Post]

DOE Under Bush Admin. Set Out Timeline For Completing Solyndra Review. After the credit committee remanded the project for further information, officials at the Department of Energy under the Bush Administration developed a schedule for due diligence on the Solyndra project, envisioning completion in March 2009. [Department of Energy, 9/14/11]

In March, The Same Credit Committee Of Career Civil Servants Recommended Approval. As Climate Progress noted, in March 2009, "The same credit committee [consisting of career civil servants with financial expertise] approves the strengthened loan application. The deal passes on to DOE's credit review board - political appointees within the DOE issue a conditional commitment setting out terms for a guarantee." [Climate Progress, 9/13/11]

  • DOE Official: "It's The Same Group Of Career Professionals That Were On The First Committee." In his testimony, DOE's Silver stated that the credit committee that remanded the project during the Bush administration "is also exactly the same credit committee that then approved the transaction several months later." He added that the loan guarantee "didn't close until September and so additional due diligence takes place from the conditional commitment through the close of the loan." [House Energy and Commerce Committee, 9/14/11, via Nexis]

CLAIM: Email Saying Deal Was "NOT Ready For Prime Time" Was Warning About Financial Risk

  • ABC reported that internal emails "show the Obama administration was keenly monitoring the progress of the loan, even as analysts were voicing serious concerns about the risk involved. 'This deal is NOT ready for prime time,' one White House budget analyst wrote in a March 10, 2009 email, nine days before the administration formally announced the loan." [ABC News, 9/13/11]
  • CNN claimed "prime time" email showed "some White House budget analysts questioned early on how financially sound Solyndra was." [CNN, CNN Newsroom, 9/15/11, via Nexis]
  • Fox's Neil Cavuto: "Prime time" email was warning that "the loan could be very risky for taxpayers." [Fox News, Your World with Neil Cavuto, 9/14/11, via Nexis]
  • Wash. Examiner: "Prime time" email showed "some officials in the Obama Administration thought the loan was a lousy idea." [Washington Examiner, 9/14/11]

FACT: The Email Did Not Voice Any Concerns About Risk Of Loan

Email Concerned Timing Of Announcement, Not The Merit Of The Loan Guarantee. Republicans on the Energy and Commerce Committee released some of the context around this email, which was written by an analyst with the Office of Management and Budget, according to House Republicans. In response to an email about a potential announcement of the Solyndra loan during the President's visit to California on March 19, 2009, the analyst argued that the presidential announcement should not be made before the loan deal was completed. The email argued that "This deal is NOT ready for prime time" because there were more steps to be completed before the loan guarantee could be finalized -- namely, OMB had to review the credit rating and Solyndra needed to raise an additional $200 million in private capital. [House Energy and Commerce Republicans, 9/14/11]

Obama Did Not Announce A Deal During His March California Trip. On March 19, 2009, Obama visited California and held a town hall meeting in Los Angeles. He did not announce the Solyndra deal. The conditional commitment to Solyndra was issued on March 20 and announced by Energy Secretary Steven Chu in a press release. [Department of Energy, 3/20/09]

VP Announcement Came After Loan Guarantee Was Finalized In September. The Solyndra loan guarantee was formally issued by DOE on September 3, 2009. On September 4, Vice President Joe Biden announced the deal via satellite at the groundbreaking of the plant along with DOE's Chu and Arnold Schwarzenegger, who was the Governor of California at the time. [Department of Energy, 9/4/09; Contra Costa Times, 9/5/09]

OMB Reviews Credit Subsidy Cost; It Does Not Select Loan Guarantee Recipients. From the Congressional testimony of Jeffrey Zients of the Office of Management and Budget:

ZIENTS: Pursuant to Section 503 of FCRA, OMB reviews and must approve credit subsidy cost estimates for all loan and loan guarantee programs, including the credit subsidy cost estimates generated by DOE for the Title XVII program, to ensure that costs are accounted for appropriately. The Title XVII program provides relatively large-dollar guarantees and because their characteristics, terms, and risks vary greatly from project to project, OMB assesses cost estimates on a loan-by-loan basis. This is the same approach OMB uses for loans or loan guarantees of other similar programs that involve large deals or varied structures, such as those administered by the Overseas Private Investment Corporation and the Export-Import Bank.

In performing its statutory role under FCRA, OMB delegates the modeling of credit subsidy costs to agencies, and issues implementing guidance to ensure consistent and accurate estimates of cost. For new programs or programs issuing their first loans or loan guarantees, such as the Title XVII program in 2009, OMB works closely with agencies to create or revise credit subsidy models. Based on these models, OMB reviews and exercises final approval authority over credit subsidy costs to ensure that the costs of direct loans and loan guarantees are presented, and reflect estimated risks, consistently across Federal agencies so that taxpayer funds are invested in a prudent and effective fashion. By contrast, the final decision on whether to issue the loan or guarantee rests with the agency implementing the applicable program - DOE in the case of Title XVII. [House Energy and Commerce Committee, 9/14/11, emphasis added]

CLAIM: Obama Fundraiser George Kaiser Is Personally Invested In Solyndra

  • ABC's Brian Ross: "One of Solyndra's principal investors, George Kaiser, who was a big Obama fund-raiser, visited the White House at least four times before the loan's final approval." [ABC, World News with Diane Sawyer, 9/1/11, via Nexis]
  • AP: "One of the company's investors, George Kaiser of Oklahoma, helped raised money for Obama's presidential campaign." [Associated Press, 9/8/11, via CBS News]
  • CNN's Lisa Sylvester: "Records show the main private investor in Solyndra is a man named George Kaiser, a key fund-raiser for Mr. Obama." [CNN, CNN Newsroom, 9/15/11, via Nexis]
  • CBS's John Blackstone: "The biggest investor in Solyndra is Oklahoma billionaire George Kaiser, a major fundraiser for the Obama presidential campaign." [CBS Evening News, 9/14/11, via Nexis]
  • Politico: "One of Solyndra's primary investors is George Kaiser, a bundler who raised $50,000 for Obama's campaign in 2008." [Politico, 9/15/11]
  • LA Times: "Solyndra is backed by one of Obama's key fundraisers, George Kaiser of Tulsa." [Los Angeles Times, 9/2/11]
  • Michelle Malkin: "One of the hugest investors in the massively failed enterprise just happens to be one of Obama's largest funders, a man named George Kaiser ... You got crony capitalism." [Fox News, Hannity, 9/14/11, via Nexis]
  • Weekly Standard: "It's probably not surprising to learn that one of Solyndra's key investors, Tulsa billionaire George Kaiser, was an Obama campaign bundler." [Weekly Standard, 9/12/11]

FACT: Kaiser's Nonprofit Foundation Made The Investments, Along With Conservative Walton Family

George Kaiser Family Foundation Made Investment Through Argonaut Ventures. Tulsa World reported:

The filing indicates that Argonaut Ventures, an investment arm of the Tulsa-based foundation [George Kaiser Family Foundation], holds almost 39 percent of Solyndra's parent, 360 Solar Degree Holdings Inc.

In an emailed statement to the Tulsa World, a representative of the George Kaiser Family Foundation said the organization made the investment through Argonaut.

"George Kaiser is not an investor in Solyndra and did not participate in any discussions with the U.S. government regarding the loan," the statement said. "GKFF invests in a globally diversified portfolio across many different asset classes." [Tulsa World, 9/7/11]

  • Argonaut Is A "Wholly Owned Subsidiary" Of The Foundation. A spokesperson for the George Kaiser Family Foundation clarified that Argonaut is a "wholly owned subsidiary of the foundation" and that money made or lost by Argonaut was made or lost for the foundation. [Phone conversation, 9/19/11]

Second Largest Investor In Solyndra Was A Major Donor To Republicans. The Los Angeles Times reported:

Although Solyndra's biggest private investor was a venture capital fund affiliated with Kaiser, its second largest investor was a fund linked to the Walton family, of Wal-Mart renown, a major donor to Republicans. Kaiser has denied he ever spoke to the Obama administration about the Solyndra loan.    

The chief executive of Solyndra, Brian Harrison, is a registered Republican, according to the San Jose Mercury News. [Los Angeles Times, 9/13/11]

Politico: Solyndra Had "Close Ties To Both Political Parties." Politico reported:

In fact, Solyndra's top brass, its board and its paid lobbyists bring close ties to both political parties.

President and CEO Brian Harrison is a registered Republican. Billionaire George Kaiser, an Obama campaign bundler, was one of the venture capitalists who poured private funding into the clean technology startup.

And another venture capital firm, Madrone Capital Partners, which is tied to the GOP-leaning Walton family, was one of 10 firms that helped Solyndra raise about $144 million in November 2008.

In Washington, Victoria Sanville, one of the company's two in-house lobbyists, had previously worked for four House Republicans: Sam Graves of Missouri, Peter Roskam of Illinois, John Sweeney of New York and George Gekas of Pennsylvania.

When it comes to campaign contributions, Solyndra officials gave much more to Democrats while still giving money to some Republicans, according to a POLITICO analysis of donation data compiled by OpenSecrets.org. [Politico, 9/14/11]

CLAIM: Administration Restructured Loan To Favor Kaiser Rather Than Taxpayers

  • AP Headline: "Obama admin reworked Solyndra loan to favor donor." [Associated Press, 9/16/11]
  • ABC's Brian Ross: "Even though administration officials knew the company was facing bankruptcy, they agreed to restructure the loan so that in case the company did fail, the first $75 million recovered would go not to taxpayers but to the private investors." [ABC, World News with Diane Sawyer, 9/14/11, via Nexis]
  • New York Times reported that Argonaut alone provided $69 million in new loans, before adding a correction. [New York Times, 9/16/11]
  • Fox's Andrea Tantaros: "The real scandal" is "that George Kaiser, a bundler for Obama, put $75 million of his own money into the company ... and he got preferential treatment over the taxpayers in bankruptcy court." [Fox News, The Five, 9/16/11, via Nexis]

FACT: Walton's Firm Also Part Of The Deal, Which DOE Expects Will Result In Higher Recovery For Taxpayers

Memo: Walton Family's Firm Was Part Of The Restructuring Deal. A memo released by the House Energy and Commerce Committee states that both Argonaut Venture Capital, the fund tied to Kaiser's foundation, and Madrone Capital Partners, which is tied to the Walton family, "negotiated the terms and conditions of an agreement to restructure the Solyndra loan guarantee":

In the fall of 2010, DOE told Solyndra that, due to the company's financial problems, the department would refuse its request for a loan disbursement unless Solyndra obtained additional capital. Solyndra, DOE, and two of Solyndra's lead investors -- Argonaut Venture Capital and Madrone Capitol Partners --began negotiations to restructure the Solyndra loan guarantee agreement. On November 3, 2010, Solyndra announced that it was closing its older manufacturing facility, resulting in the layoff of 135 temporary employees and approximately 40 full-time employees.

From December 2010 through February 2011, DOE, Solyndra, and two of its investors, Argonaut Venture Capital and Madrone Capitol Partners, negotiated the terms and conditions of an agreement to restructure the Solyndra loan guarantee. Throughout this process, DOE consulted with OMB about the proposed terms and conditions of this arrangement.

On February 23, 2011, the parties signed an agreement to restructure the Solyndra deal. Under that agreement, Solyndra's investors agreed to a $75 million credit facility, with the option of a second $75 million. DOE agreed to extend the term of Solyndra's loan guarantee from seven to 10 years, and to postpone the first repayment installment by one year, from 2012 to 2013. In addition, the agreement provided that, in the event of the company's liquidation before 2013, the investors have the senior secured position with respect to the first $75 million recovered. DOE has the second senior secured position with respect to the next $150 million recovered in liquidation. If Solyndra had not liquidated or declared bankruptcy by 2013, the investors would have lost their senior secured position to DOE. [House Energy and Commerce Committee, 9/12/11]

AP: "Two Private Investors" Provided The Emergency Loans. Despite its headline, "Obama admin reworked Solyndra loan to favor donor," the AP article stated that Madrone Partners LP was also part of the deal:

Under terms of the February loan restructuring, two private investors -- Argonaut Ventures I LLC and Madrone Partners LP -- stand to be repaid before the U.S. government if the solar company is liquidated. The two firms gave the company a total of $69 million in emergency loans. The loans are the only portion of their investments that have repayment priority above the U.S. government. [Associated Press, 9/16/11]

DOE Determined "That The Facility Would Be More Valuable, Even In The Event Of A Future Liquidation, Once Complete." In his testimony before the House Energy and Commerce Committee, Director of DOE's Loan Programs Office Jonathan Silver stated that "DOE determined, as part of the restructuring, that the facility would be more valuable, even in the event of a future liquidation, once complete." He went on to say that "DOE determined that restructuring the loan guarantee gave the U.S. taxpayer the best chance of being repaid":

SILVER: Unsuccessful in its efforts to raise additional equity, Solyndra approached DOE, in late 2010, asking DOE to increase its loan commitment. DOE refused, indicating that any additional funds would need to come from other sources. Solyndra then sought to secure a new $75 million emergency loan from its current equity investors. The proposed new loan provided terms that were expected to be more favorable to taxpayers than any other financing options that were available to the company at that time. As is typical in cases where distressed companies seek new debt financing, the new financing would have priority, in the event of liquidation, over the company's existing debt--including the DOE loan guarantee (the investors' almost $1 billion of original equity investment was, and remains, subordinated to the debt owed to the government).

DOE faced a choice: whether to (1) refuse to allow the restructuring, thereby ensuring that Solyndra would close its doors immediately, and that the U.S. taxpayer would recover only a modest amount of the loan; or (2) allow the company to accept the emergency financing, thereby giving it and its almost 1,000 workers a fighting chance at success, and the government a higher expected recovery on its loan.

The decision was not an easy one, and it was made only after significant analysis and deliberation, using the same sort of tools and rigor that private sector lenders use in such scenarios. DOE had commissioned a new and comprehensive analysis of Solyndra's prospects in the global solar market (conducted by Navigant, a leading market research firm), and undertook -- with the aid of experienced financial consultants -- a complete review of the company's financial condition, business plan, and assets.9 Both the market study and the financial modeling suggested that the company's value as a going concern was greater than what the government was likely to recover in liquidation at that time. Accordingly, DOE determined that restructuring the loan guarantee gave the U.S. taxpayer the best chance of being repaid on the loan. [House Energy and Commerce Committee, 9/14/11]

DOE Expects Recovery of Taxpayer Money To Be Larger Due To Restructuring. During the hearing, John Dingell said: "I would note that the government's chance of recovery from that reorganization are better both in amount and certainty than if we had seen Solyndra go into bankruptcy earlier. Is that right?" Silver replied:

SILVER: We expect so. We'll have to see what happens, actually, in the bankruptcy process. But we have a completed an operating plant fully fitted out, inventory and all kinds of things that did not exist during the first restructuring. [House Energy and Commerce Committee, 9/14/11]

NY Times: Experts Said DOE's Decision To Restructure "Is Routine In The Commercial World." From a September 16, New York Times article:

Bankruptcy experts said Friday that the normal pattern was for the management of a bankrupt company to be given first crack at developing a plan, one that would either distribute ownership of the company to its creditors, in some agreed-upon proportion, or end in liquidation. The Energy Department believes that Solyndra has valuable patents.

Experts said the decision made by the Energy Department in February is routine in the commercial world. "It happens all the time," said Evan Flaschen, head of the financial restructuring group at Bracewell & Giuliani. But, he said, "A new lender coming in is going to want to be the first money out. The new money would want to be senior."

Martin Bienenstock, of Dewey & LeBoef, said that letting in another lender was often "the smart thing to do even though it's painful," because at worst, it would increase the company's scrap value. [New York Times, 9/16/11]

VentureWire: DOE "Squeezed The Terms Of Its Loan In Its Favor." VentureWire reported in March:

Making matters worse for the venture backers, the federal government has squeezed the terms of its loan in its favor, in hopes of increasing the chance of repayment even as the loan is being scrutinized. The Department of Energy could change some terms of the loan with each increment that it puts forward.

Solyndra agreed to change the terms of the federal loan so that it is now secured by all the assets of the company, including Solyndra's intellectual property. Previously, the loan was secured only by the solar panel factory it is helping fund. This is also true of the loan provided by private investors. [Dow Jones VentureWire, 3/3/11, via Factiva]

CLAIM: It Was Obvious Before Loan Guarantee Was Granted That Solyndra Would Fail

  • Diane Sawyer: "Did a half billion dollars of your taxpayer money go to a company certain to fail? And why?" [ABC, World News with Diane Sawyer, 9/14/11, via Nexis]
  • Investor's Business Daily: "Solyndra was not a good investment and the White House knew it." [Investor's Business Daily, 9/14/11]
  • Fox's Trace Gallagher: "[M]any experts say there was nothing about this company that was at all promising." [Fox News, America Live, 9/15/11]
  • David Webb on Fox: Solyndra "was never viable." [Fox Business, America's Nightly Scoreboard, 9/15/11, via Nexis]
  • Forbes op-ed: "Few, if any, lenders thought that giving [Solyndra] money was a very good idea." [Forbes.com, 9/13/11]

FACT: Solyndra Was Seen By Many As Promising

Solyndra Raised $1 Billion In Private Capital. Time noted that "in addition to government loan guarantees, Solyndra also scored over $1 billion in private capital--including from GOP-friendly investors like the Walton family of Wal-Mart." [Time, 9/15/11]

WSJ Ranked Solyndra As The Top U.S. Clean Tech Company. In 2010, the Wall Street Journal ranked Solyndra the top clean-tech company with the "capital, executive experience and investor know-how to succeed in an increasingly crowded field." The "research firm VentureSource (owned by NewsCorp., which also owns Dow Jones & Co., publisher of the Journal) calculated the rankings, applying a set of financial criteria to some 350 U.S.-based venture-backed businesses in clean technology." [Wall Street Journal, 3/7/10]

WSJ Also Ranked Solyndra In Top Five "Next Big" Venture-Backed Companies. The Wall Street Journal ranked Solyndra number five in a list of the "top 50 venture-backed companies." The rankings were calculated based on "the track record of success for the venture-capital investors who sit on the company's board (Board Ranking); the amount of capital raised by the company over the last three years, in comparison to its peers (Total Equity Ranking); the track record of success for the company's founders and chief executive (Executive Ranking);" "the recent growth in the value of the company (Valuation Ranking)" and the rankings of Dow Jones venture capital reporters and editors. [Wall Street Journal, 3/9/10]

MIT's Technology Review Chose Solyndra As One Of The World's 50 Most Innovative Companies. The Technology Review evaluated companies based on their "business model[s], strategies for deploying and scaling up its technologies, and the likelihood of success." [Technology Review, 2/23/10]

Analyst Cited Solyndra As A Company That Could Have A "Breakthrough Around Cost And Efficiency." From an April 2009 San Jose Mercury News report:

Craig Irwin, an energy analyst with Merriman Curhan Ford in San Francisco, agrees the current slowdown in the solar industry ''will filter out the most innovative companies and really help promote the next generation of leaders'' to produce lower cost solar technologies.

"As the economic equation is really squeezed, people want to see better performing (solar) panels and lower costs,'' he said.

Irwin cited Fremont-based Solyndra as a company he believes has some "very interesting technologies that could allow a real breakthrough around cost and efficiency.'' [San Jose Mercury News, 4/17/09, via Nexis]

Reuters: Venture Capitalists Point To Solyndra As One Of The Top 10 Companies "Ripest" To Go Public. Reuters reported in August 2009:

An informal poll of venture capitalists and others pointed to six privately held companies as the ripest for acquisition or readiness to go public, out of 34 cited in industries ranging from alternative energy to social networking.

For now, the Silicon Valley Six say they intend to keep growing rather than agreeing to be acquired or go public during the recession.

The top four are business social network LinkedIn, solar panel maker Solyndra, smart grid company Silver Spring, and Zynga, a casual games company whose products run on social networks like Facebook. [Reuters, 8/19/09, via CNNMoney]

Market Conditions Shifted Significantly from 2009 to 2011. A Bloomberg News report noted that Solyndra had "advantages that were more important in 2009 when it received a $535 million U.S. loan guarantee to build a factory" than they are now, noting that the price of the silicon-based panels with which Solyndra was competing "has fallen 46 percent since then." The article also quoted Julian Hawking of Abound Solar Inc., who stated: "When Solyndra started up it was a completely different time for the industry. Nobody expected the huge drop in polysilicon prices." [Bloomberg, 9/14/11]

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    • Author by jonimacaroni1 (September 19, 2011 5:07 pm ET)
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      This is the most egregious of the dishonest/deceptive depictions of this whole episode.

      CLAIM: It Was Obvious Before Loan Guarantee Was Granted That Solyndra Would Fail

      FACT: Solyndra Was Seen By Many As Promising

      The fearmongering that's going on with regard to this is solely an offshoot of the rightwing determination to discredit Obama any way they can, even if it is unjustified.
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        • Author by Johaely (September 20, 2011 9:02 am ET)
          7 5
          Get out.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (September 20, 2011 11:15 am ET)
          7 5
          How many people died over Solyndra?
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          • Author by katanakumori (September 20, 2011 11:58 am ET)
            5 15
            Is that your standard for idiocy? It's OK unless someone dies?

            You are a big stupid chicken.
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            • Author by timarina (September 20, 2011 7:35 pm ET)
              9 3
              a big stupid chicken?

              i get it now, you're 7 years old.

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              • Author by foghornleghorn (September 21, 2011 1:51 pm ET)
                6 2
                Another screen name has called me that in the past. Why is it not surprising that katana is a reincarnation of a different screen name?
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                • Author by Johaely (September 21, 2011 1:57 pm ET)
                  5 2
                  I don't tend to go with the sockpuppet/screen name inanity, but when its obvious, its obvious and Its pretty damn obvious that katankumori is our "pal" maxconrad, all the way down to the "liberal-socialist".
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        • Author by dkwdba (September 20, 2011 2:11 pm ET)
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          Yup - and the Walton Family are "unqualified idiots" too. Not to mention the other private investors that ponied up $1 Billion in private investment.

          You are a troll who slants whatever you read to prove your world view that right wing is right government, when it typically leads to abuse of power and the exploitation of the poor.

          Judgement by 20/20 hindsight, with selective fact election can prove anything.

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        • Author by timarina (September 20, 2011 7:35 pm ET)
          11 5
          "Barack the Buffoon" ???

          Really?

          May I ask how old you are?

          Are you an American?

          Do you understand that We The People elected President Obama? Do you have any understanding of what a patriot thinks when you post childish insults about our President?

          Do you know how many people died to protect our right to elect the President of our choice.

          You seem like a very confused child with anger issues.

          Please think. If your an American, take a civics class. Learn what it means to respectfully disagree with our elected officials and what it means to be a angry traitorous child.

          In short. Grow up. Act like a man.



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            • Author by altsoba (September 21, 2011 2:18 am ET)
              5 11
              Well said.

              The media and Obama telling the sheep exactaly what they wanted to hear is how he got elected

              The liberals are trying to blame this on Bush also.

              Just because their loan was remanded dose not mean it was going to be approved, which is what MMFA is trying to imply. What it means is more investigation needed to be done.

              My guess is their was pressure from above for this loan to be approved.
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            • Author by Johaely (September 21, 2011 1:52 pm ET)
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              Seriously where the hell where you during the primaries? The only thing that people talked about in the news was the bull crap you repeated. The only thing i heard was "Jeremiah Wright", "Jeremiah Wright", "Jeremiah Wright" and Ayers. And after Obama distanced himself form him it was all about how Obama could just throw him under the bus.

              The only silver lining is that adults of America will vote him out next election & you children can wheel him away in your little red wagon.


              And replace him with who? Perry? Romney?

              But what if Obama won? What will you be saying? That he cheated?
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            • Author by trud00173555 (September 21, 2011 5:24 pm ET)
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              @katanakumori "You liberal-socialist morons elected a boob and a buffoon."

              If you believe that socialists elected Obama or that Obama is socialist then you understand nothing about American politics. Nor do you understand anything about socialism. You represent the crisis of intellect that the United States is experiencing.
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        • Author by Tbone Slickens (September 20, 2011 11:25 pm ET)
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          If the media has it so "wrong", why are the execs going to plead the fifth to congress?

          I would think they would be more than happy to share their side of the story about how $535 Million in federal loans just evaporated...
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          • Author by katanakumori (September 21, 2011 8:27 am ET)
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            Because that is what grifting gangsters do when they are caught.

            These sleazebags got in bed with the Chicago graft boss they raised money for, met with his stooges in the White House more than 20 times, got their half a billion dollar loan fast-tracked, got the loan structured in their favor if things went south & now are going to hide behind their lawyers & the 5th after promising they would answer all questions.

            Obama rose to the top of what is widely known as the most corrupt political machine in the country: Chicago, Illinois. Bootlegger Joe Kennedy worked with mobster Sam Giancana & ultra-corrupt Chicago Mayor Daley to fix the Illinois votes that got Jack Kennedy elected. Obama's boss went straight to work selling his Senate seat to the highest bidder.

            This is the way they do business & the American taxpayer is getting stuck with the bill.
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          • Author by katanakumori (September 21, 2011 10:30 am ET)
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            Just came across this article which just goes to show how corrupt both Chicago & the blackmailing Union gangsters can be.

            This is corruption and theft on a massive scale. But like I said, it's Chicago.

            CHICAGO TRIBUNE
            All it took to give nearly two dozen labor leaders from Chicago a windfall worth millions was a few tweaks to a handful of sentences in the state's lengthy pension code.

            The changes became law with no public debate among state legislators and, more importantly, no cost analysis.

            Twenty years later, 23 retired union officials from Chicago stand to collect about $56 million from two ailing city pension funds thanks to the changes, a Tribune/WGN-TV investigation found.

            Because the law bases the city pensions on the labor leaders' union salaries, they are reaping retirement benefits that far outstrip the modest salaries they made as city employees. On average, their pensions are nearly three times higher than what the typical retired city worker receives.

            No one from either the state Legislature or city government will take credit for the law, which passed in 1991, and the process of drafting pension legislation in Springfield is so shrouded in secrecy that there's no way of knowing exactly whom to hold responsible.
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            • Author by congero6189599 (September 21, 2011 1:48 pm ET)
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              How do you pin that on Obama? How do you pin the collaspe of this company on Obama? It is really amazing the lenghts you conservative quacks will go through to discredit this president. All the rhetoric and lies you threw out in your above post. No real world business experience? What a criteria to hold someone to. I bet we've had other presidents that didn't really work in the business world and did well as president as well as having some that had business degrees and performed terribly. One of which just left the whithouse and created the mess we are presently struggeling to get out and initially guaranteed this loan you are lumping onto Obama. The US government is not a business and shouldn't be run as one.
              Racist minister? Hardly and simply amazing that now if you speak out against the policies of this country and are not a Republican but AA you are a racist. Then again despite your claim of a willing press ignoring Rev. Wright he was brought up and reported on plenty. The fact of the matter was the more the press,Faux and McCain/Palin made an issue of it along with calling Obama a socialist the more Obamas numbers went up, the strategy seemed to be back firing which was affirmed during Obamas landslide and overwhelming victories. More people voting and a margin of victory so wide dozens of GOP elephants could fit through it. I guess thats why now the GOP in many states are now placing roadblocks to students,minorities and the elderly voting all constituencies that vote democratic. If you can't win, change the rules right?
              I seem to remember the Palins belonging to a poltical party that called for succeding from the US and where the founder expressed his hate for the US I don't remember the "liberal" media making an issue of it as the right tried to do with Rev. Wright!

              I bet you wrote scathing attacks on GW Bush and started calling for a businessman to run the country after this was revealed:


              Missing Iraq money may have been stolen, auditors say


              U.S. Defense officials still cannot say what happened to $6.6 billion, sent by the planeload in cash and intended for Iraq's reconstruction after the start of the war.

              Pentagon officials determined that one giant C-130 Hercules cargo plane could carry $2.4 billion in shrink-wrapped bricks of $100 bills. They sent an initial full planeload of cash, followed by 20 other flights to Iraq by May 2004 in a $12-billion haul that U.S. officials believe to be the biggest international cash airlift of all time.
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              Wait Bush was a business major and had a masters. Oh well.
              Some in the democratic party are upset with Obama, I give you that. What are they upset about him with? Are you saying that Nadar is calling for a challenger to the right of Obama? Lol. Think again Kata they are complaining that he has been tooo republican and business friendly to the detriment of the unemployed the poor and the middle class. They are calling for less Republican friendly policies not more.

              The politcal shanigans and vote obstruction campaigns may give you a sliver of hope along with threats to the Fed about helping to fix the economy but don't count your chickens before they hatch as tea-party popularity is shrinking along with the obstructionist tactics of the REpublicans. Great debates and canidates so-far. lol. I am sure the screams of let them die(about the uninsured)won over a lot people to the vision being spouted by the likes of Michelle "I was just repeating what someone told me" Bachmann, Jim,er,er,Rick "Texas will succede" Perry9exactly what we need today is a President not sold on this United States thingy), and Mitt "Obamacare for Mass., but not for you" Romney. Great bunch and all with the same old policies for fixing the country that got us into this mess. I'd be careful attaching my wagon to anyone of those kooks. I mean adults. That Bachmann does know how to eat a corndog though.
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              • Author by Johaely (September 21, 2011 1:55 pm ET)
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                Seriously constantly hearing about "Obama has no business experience" coupled with their demanding that Obama fix everything makes me think that people like maxconrad don't really know what is the role of the president.
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                • Author by congero6189599 (September 21, 2011 2:04 pm ET)
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                  What an assortment of kooks on this page. Birthers,birchers and tea-baggers and the canidates they are running reflect them well.
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        • Author by congero6189599 (September 21, 2011 2:41 pm ET)
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          As I pointe out below you must have been really upset with the billions psent and missing in Iraq under Bush.
          Then again what was the problem that Solydra faced?
          According to this article(which excuse me I trust more than your biased opinions) says this:
          "...And production of solar panels did grow rapidly, but in China, not America. According to the Energy Department, the Chinese government poured $33 billion into its solar industry in 2010, allowing Chinese companies to produce solar panels at a fraction of the cost that American companies like Solyndra were paying.

          When the price for solar products fell significantly due, in part, to the flood of cheaper Chinese products, Solyndra could not cut costs fast enough to keep up, Jabusch said.

          “The Department of Energy got caught out by that change,” he said. “They weren’t staying on top of the market enough to realize that Solyndra was not going to be able to remain competitive. That sort of event in investment management happens all the time.”

          Oh, far different picture than the one you painted Kata. Political payback?


          "...The Solyndra bankruptcy is not symptomatic of the entire solar industry either, Jabusch said. According to the Solar Energy Industries Association, the solar market nearly doubled from 2009 to 2010 and is anticipated to add about 24,000 jobs, a 26 percent increase, over the next year..."

          What did the amount of the loan to Solyndra amount to in realtion to the whole program?:

          "...But the Energy Department argues the bankruptcy is not emblematic of the entire loan program. The solar company loan represents about 1.3 percent of the entire loan guarantee program, which was a $2.4 billion initiative created under the 2009 Recovery Act to support the new green technology investments, which can be risky..."

          Your text to link here...

          . The only thing this boob knows is tax & spend.---Kata

          More nonsense and lies. Taxes are at their lowest in recent history and his proposal to raise taxes on the top 2% is to close a deficit and help pay for a jobs program. Then again when it comes to spending you got it wrong again. I thought of you when I saw this(I know you are not my brother in law):


          Three Charts to Email to Your Right-Wing Brother-In-Law

          Monday 29 August 2011


          Spending

          The charts show spending increased 88% under Bush not so much under Obama 7%.

          Deficits

          The numbers in these two charts come from Budget of the United States Government: Historical Tables Fiscal Year 2012. They are just the amounts that the government spent and borrowed, period, Anyone can go look then up. Peoplewho claim that Obama "tripled the deficit" are either misled or are trying to mislead.


          The Stimulus and Jobs

          In this chart, the RED lines on the left side -- the ones that keep doing DOWN -- show what happened to jobs under the policies of Bush and the Republicans. We were losing lots and lots of jobs every month, and it was getting worse and worse. The BLUE lines -- the ones that just go UP -- show what happened to jobs when the stimulus was in effect. We stopped losing jobs and started gaining jobs, and it was getting better and better. The leveling off on the right side of the chart shows what happened as the stimulus started to wind down: job creation leveled off at too low a level.

          It looks a lot like the stimulus reversed what was going on before the stimulus.

          Conclusion: THE STIMULUS WORKED BUT WAS NOT ENOUGH!


          More False Things

          These are just three of the false things that everyone "knows." Some others are (click through): Obama bailed out the banks, businesses will hire if they get tax cuts, health care reform cost $1 trillion, Social Security is a Ponzi Scheme or is "going broke", government spending "takes money out of the economy."

          You can see and read the charts and links here:

          Your text to link here...

          I read yesterday that Ralph Nader & a group of liberals are gearing up to find Democrat challengers to run against Obama. I predicted this months ago. Anybody with any brains can see Obama is in no way qualified to be President.--kata

          Now tell us kata do you think Nadar was saying we should have a more conservative president or a more liberal/progressive one? You call Obama unqualified for trying conservative fixes up to this point. How interesting and puzzeling irrational.
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          • Author by congero6189599 (September 21, 2011 2:45 pm ET)
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            Why MMFA placed this here I have no idea or control over but this was in response to a post by Kata.
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    • Author by Nihilist (September 19, 2011 5:08 pm ET)
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      also add that red chinese government has tossed in 32 billion buckys to r&d on solar. and yes this was a bush legacy project, but the white house did drop the ball on the vetting that was done, and known about this project. add the fact that one of obamas largest bundlers was a big part of the deal, and you have the makings of a huge pile of red meat to hang in front of the rightwing noisemachine.... it also is a black eye to green tech, no matter how you dice it... wtf eh?
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      • Author by Unreality (September 19, 2011 11:55 pm ET)
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        No just R&D, but actually subsidies to their solar manufacturers so they can lose money, uncut prices in the US, wipe us out, and then raise prices.

        And the GOP is too myopic and politically motivated to comprehend the need for import tariffs from China.
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      • Author by clathey (September 20, 2011 10:11 am ET)
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        Whew! A long and informative article that clears up a lot of misinformation all the media have been publishing, not just RWM. The comments are equally interesting, but few are as on the mark as yours, Nihilist.

        The point IS, not "who done it", but why failure, eh? Obviously Rs obfuscate the real reason for failure which is our lack of a progressive energy policy and would that be because they live in the back pockets of the giant fossil fuel industry? "When will we ever learn..."
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      • Author by Turkeysocks (September 20, 2011 10:00 pm ET)
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        Look at the history of any industry using new technology and your going to find a lot of companies that went under before someone found the most economic way to produce the product.

        Take steel for instance, Andrew Carnegie was the godfather of the Steel industry who founded Carnegie Steel, which mass produced strong, cheap steel that helped to push the Industrial Revolution in America forward. What isn't written down in history is the mass of others who've attempted and failed to find a way to mass produce steel on a massive scale. People were trying to mass produce steel for centuries, and companies in the USA tried for decades before Carnegie.
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    • Author by jamesB (September 19, 2011 5:16 pm ET)
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      it's always about protecting democrats and obama, isn't it mmfa? this is crony stuff and a rush to approval because of it, you can't deny that. but above all that political stuff is the fact that the american taxpayers are on the hook for a half a billion dollars.
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      • Author by magnolialover (September 19, 2011 5:27 pm ET)
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        Actually, it's not. If you read the article, you'd see it was about correcting misinformation in the media.

        Dude, we have lost more than 5 billion dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan, as in, it just disappeared. No accounting for where it went.
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        • Author by jamesB (September 19, 2011 5:32 pm ET)
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          I have read plenty about it. the article above does not change what i wrote. this was rushed. and i don't excuse every single waste of taxpayer dollars like the left does and use iraq and afghanistan as the reason. you can, i don't.
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      • Author by raddave43 (September 19, 2011 5:32 pm ET)
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        Actually, its about correcting misinformation that is pushing the idea that it is "crony stuff and a rush to approval because of it." It's just like the VA guarenteed my home loan, but I still had to go through the approval process to get a loan. If I default on my loan the tax payers are still on the hook for $200,000. Is that "crony stuff" as well?
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        • Author by jamesB (September 19, 2011 5:47 pm ET)
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          nobody knows the full story yet, but i just don't swallow mmfa's daily serving of damage control casserole - they've been working on this recipe for days. bottom line, business as usual in washington.
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          • Author by raddave43 (September 19, 2011 5:49 pm ET)
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            Because you are a wingnut, incapbable of reading the facts that MMFA lays out before you. You are an Obama hater, and look for any reason to bash him.
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            • Author by jamesB (September 19, 2011 5:53 pm ET)
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              lol! and you are a child. look what i wrote on the other thread today and tell me i am bashing obama? now don't you look stupid?
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              • Author by raddave43 (September 19, 2011 5:54 pm ET)
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                Oh, you post one thing out of hundreds of posts you make in defense of the President, so that makes you impartial, NOT. You are a moron, tommy.
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                • Author by jamesB (September 19, 2011 5:56 pm ET)
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                  i was right.
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                • Author by motorcity (September 19, 2011 6:04 pm ET)
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                  Where did jamesB defend the president? I did see where he said that if Republicans obstruct and kill the tax proposal it would be Obama's fault for not leading effectively. Kind of a backhanded defense, if you ask me.
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                  • Author by jamesB (September 19, 2011 6:06 pm ET)
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                    i know that even a question of capability is like poison to some of you partisans since you live and die to make sure your outfit always smells like a rose, so any little criticism is called bashing by most of you. too bad.
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                    • Author by highlyunlikely (September 19, 2011 6:43 pm ET)
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                      james does characterizing libs badly again.
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                    • Author by motorcity (September 19, 2011 6:50 pm ET)
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                      The Republican's stated goal is to make Obama a one term president. They have obstructed and sabotaged virtually eveything this president has tried to do. What could he possibly do or say that would change their tune?
                      Oh, never mind. You'll defend these traitors to your last breath, so anything you have to say ain't worth jack.
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                      • Author by jamesB (September 19, 2011 6:51 pm ET)
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                        yes, i am always defending republicans here. you're really bright.
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                        • Author by Progressive_IL (September 19, 2011 7:06 pm ET)
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                          Defending Republicans, attacking Democrats.

                          Potato, potato.
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                        • Author by motorcity (September 19, 2011 7:08 pm ET)
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                          On the other thread, you've absolved the GOP of any responsibility if Obama's tax package fails, before they even vote. Here you're critisizing a left leaning website for trying to correct misinformation from the right, and even parroting said misinformation. Tacit approval for what the GOP is doing, therefore a defense. You're more subtle than most, I'll grant you that, but that doesn't make you less of an GOP defender.
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                • Author by jonimacaroni1 (September 19, 2011 7:08 pm ET)
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                  As I pointed out on that thread, he was still bashing Obama and Democrats.
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          • Author by armendale (September 19, 2011 5:59 pm ET)
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            James,

            It isn't complicated.
            your distaste for mmfa's effort to correct lies is a natural result of routinely feeding from a trough full of lies.
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            • Author by jamesB (September 19, 2011 6:05 pm ET)
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              no, i have a distaste for ultra partisan websites trying to spin a smelly loan approval for the sole purpose of making sure their sainted political party and its players are as unsoiled as possible, instead of being outraged at the possibility that that stench has cost all of us a half a billion dollars.
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              • Author by armendale (September 19, 2011 6:17 pm ET)
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                Any "ultra partisan websites" on the right you have a distaste for?
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              • Author by The_Cat (September 19, 2011 6:46 pm ET)
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                So, jamesB, you are EVEN MORE OFFENDED by the $9 billion or so in cash that just vanished in Iraq under Bush/Cheney & Co., right? About 20 times more offended, since we'll never see a penny of that money again, while there is the possibility that most of the taxpayer money Solyndra received will be recouped when they liquidate?
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                • Author by jamesB (September 19, 2011 6:52 pm ET)
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                  when you find a thread on iraq and bush/cheney, let me know, will ya?
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                  • Author by The_Cat (September 19, 2011 8:16 pm ET)
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                    The answer must be 'no', then, you are not offended about $9 billion in cash just vanishing into thin air. But you are very aggrieved about a $500 million loan guarantee, even though we don't know how much of that won't be recovered yet. Guess you must just really really hate Obama, huh?
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                    • Author by danielsangeo (September 19, 2011 10:44 pm ET)
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                      So, in regards to Solyndra, there was a raid on the company on September 8th. The FBI agents that raided the place were armed. Where are the Republicans who were criticizing the raid on Gibson Guitar here?

                      Or the fact that the loan guarantee proceedings began under the Bush administration?

                      Or the fact that Solyndra was beat by Chinese manufacturers who were heavily subsidized by their government?

                      This is a failure of green energy technology? No.
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              • Author by highlyunlikely (September 19, 2011 6:46 pm ET)
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                "sole purpose," huh? james reads minds and, by the way, everyone's mind is as simplistic as his is.
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              • Author by jonimacaroni1 (September 19, 2011 10:31 pm ET)
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                no, i have a distaste for ultra partisan websites


                THEN WHY ARE YOU HERE?
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                • Author by HughG (September 20, 2011 9:57 am ET)
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                  MMfA is actually not a partisan website. It's a website devoted to outing conservative misinformation; though said misinfo typically works against the Democratic Party, it's not that simple, and MMfA has no party affiliation.
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                  • Author by jonimacaroni1 (September 20, 2011 11:24 am ET)
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                    Partisan doesn't mean "political". It means taking sides. Look it up.

                    Media Matters isn't a Democratic site. They don't violate their 501(c)3 status by supporting a political party. But they sure do have a side they support and a side they oppose. I agree that they have no party affiliation. It was a smokescreen/strawman argument by "jamesB."

                    Of course, what "jamesB" was explicitly implying was that they do support Democrats, and that they do it in an offensive way. See, if I were a Republican, I'd support this site wholeheartedly, because I'd be tired of the way that the leaders of my party were behaving.

                    But my point in highlighting his comment was the hypocrisy in his complaint about having a distaste for this site while the human being behind this screen name has posted here since the summer of 2005! If he hates this site but he's been here for 6 years, then it means that he's here as a troll and nothing more.
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                    • Author by NotSure8 (September 20, 2011 4:01 pm ET)
                         
                      Actually while they specifically have a side they oppose (conservative media), the only "side" they seem to support is the truth. The right wing sock puppets love to point out how Media Matters avoids certain topics (like the Anthony Weiner thing), but MM "ignores" them because they simply don't find misinformation on those topics, likely because those are the few times the conservative media can actually present the truth yet still use it to smear the democrats.
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      • Author by highlyunlikely (September 19, 2011 5:35 pm ET)
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        No.
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      • Author by tbone (September 19, 2011 5:36 pm ET)
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        you can't deny that

        Ignoring the fact that they not only just did deny it, they also disproved it. Unless of course you consider WSJ, MIT and the Walton family all Obama "cronies".

        Some loans in this program are destined to fail. That's why the government underwrites them in the first place because the commercial market won't take the risk on it's own. But you knew that already - just forwarding the talking points for the simpletons.
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      • Author by wookie (September 19, 2011 5:37 pm ET)
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        Where is the evidence that they knew it was a lemon and why would they want to advance a lemon? And can the Republican party of all people please stop complaining about crony capitalism?
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      • Author by armendale (September 19, 2011 5:48 pm ET)
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        Actually James, you're partly right.

        MMFA's mission is to uncover the truth buried under the right-wing echo chamber's lies attacking democrats and Obama.
        So, in that sense, yes, it is about protecting democrats and Obama from the right's daily onslaught of twisted trash talk.
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      • Author by The_Cat (September 19, 2011 6:50 pm ET)
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        it's always about protecting democrats and obama, isn't it mmfa?

        Well, you could argue it IS about protecting the Democratic Party and President Obama from outright lies from the media, yes.
        this is crony stuff and a rush to approval because of it, you can't deny that.

        Then it must've been Bush/Cheney cronies, because they initiated the loan process.
        but above all that political stuff is the fact that the american taxpayers are on the hook for a half a billion dollars.

        You're willfully ignoring how much money will be recouped when Solyndra liquidates its holdings. You're also upset over hundreds of millions when Bush/Cheney & Co. stole hundreds of BILLIONS of taxpayer money with nothing to show for it but more money for Haliburton. Kind of one-sided, aren't you?
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    • Author by DennisKQV (September 19, 2011 5:23 pm ET)
         
      You should stick to the simpler, obvious mis-statements.

      The fact that that Walton invested doesn't make it False that Argonaut invested.

      That fact that was restructured for 2 invocestors doesn't change the fact that one of those was Argonaut.

      The fact that Argonaut and Kaiser weren't one and the same doesn't change the fact that they're related.

      When you over-reach and list weak errors, you lessen the overall impact of the more egregious mis-statements.

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    • Author by wookie (September 19, 2011 5:33 pm ET)
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      This is much like the Whitewater hype and the other stuff they threw at Clinton. There really isn't any there there but the public will think there is and the GOP can exploit that. Expect lots of leading questions and innuendo from a press that no longer attempts to get to the truth.
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    • Author by Chameo (September 19, 2011 5:36 pm ET)
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      Cripes. Half of American adults can't understand their own credit card and bank statements, and we expect them to follow all of this?
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      • Author by danielsangeo (September 19, 2011 6:42 pm ET)
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        Of course those on the right know that and they don't expect them to be able to follow any of this. Remember: The more complex a subject, the easier to bash Obama. Even if it's false.
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    • Author by Adendrools (September 19, 2011 6:46 pm ET)
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      Did anyone else here notice how far right the supposed left leaning news organization are leaning? Looks pretty far right to me. Where is the Lame stream lefties news orgs all of you wing-nuts. Care to comment.......
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    • Author by cripto9t709 (September 20, 2011 9:59 am ET)
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      "the price of the silicon-based panels with which Solyndra was competing has fallen 46 percent since"

      That's the real story here. China flooding the market with under priced panels.

      Just ignore the fact that a half dozen other solar panel companies in US and a few in Europe have went out of business because they can't compete with Chinese backed companies, and report what the gop tells you.

      China wins, the gop wins, America loses, again. Thanks lame stream media.

      Bonus win; the gop can now say "we told you the solar power industry was going nowhere", even though the facts say otherwise.

      Ten years from now, when China controls 100% of the solar industry and jack the prices back up to where their making a hefty profit, the gop and the media will conveniently forget this little incident and the part they played.
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    • Author by little poncho (September 21, 2011 3:30 pm ET)
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      did gwb, have his no nothing hand in this solyndra????
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