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"They Couldn't Help It": Right-Wing Media Strain To Find Ways To Attack Obama's Memorial Speech

January 13, 2011 12:41 pm ET — 431 Comments

Following Obama's widely praised address at the memorial for the victims of the Tucson shooting, the right-wing media have nonetheless strained to find ways to attack him. Their attacks have included the presence of T-shirts at the event -- which were reportedly handed out by the university -- the "pep-rally" atmosphere, and the timing of Obama's speech, among other things.

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Right-wing Media Invent Absurd Attacks On Obama's Memorial Speech

Hoft Falsely Claims Obama "Fibbed" About Giffords "Opening Her Eyes For The First Time." In a January 13 post on his blog Gateway Pundit, blogger Jim Hoft linked to a cached article from the blog the Sonoran Chronicle, which misquoted Chief Trauma Surgeon Dr. Peter Rhee as having said in a press conference, "Giffords can open her eyes but because she is on a ventilator she can't speak." The Sonoran Chronicle post itself had been removed at the time of Hoft's posting. Yet, nonetheless, Hoft took the cached article as evidence that  it "Looks Like Obama Fibbed About Giffords 'Opening Her Eyes for the First Time'" in his speech last night, and that it was a "very emotional moment" but "unfortunately it was not true."

In fact, Rhee actually said in his January 9 press conference that Giffords "can't open her eyes at this point." From the press conference (emphasis added):

RHEE: No, we can't get into too much more detail than what we already have. But I can tell you right now with the type of surgery, her eyes, she can't open her eyes at this point, mechanical standpoints, and she's also on the ventilator, so she can't speak at this time. [Gateway Pundit, 01/13/11; CNN, State of the Union With Candy Crowley, 01/09/11]

Hoft: "They Couldn't Help It... Team Obama Hands Out T-Shirts at Pep Rally Memorial." In a January 12 Gateway Pundit post titled "They Couldn't Help It... Team Obama Hands Out T-Shirts at Pep Rally Memorial," Hoft wrote "Maybe it's something new? T-shirts at a pep rally  memorial...Every memorial needs a special T-shirt. Doesn't it?" [Gateway Pundit, 01/12/11]

Hoft: "It's A Pep Rally." In a January 12 Gateway Pundit post, Hoft wrote, "It's a pep rally...The screaming in the stands by the kids was a little annoying though. They need to discuss this at the next SEIU meeting." Hoft added that despite this, he felt it was "the best speech Obama has ever given." [Gateway Pundit, 01/12/11]

Ace of Spades: "While I Have No Evidence [The T-Shirts Are] Obama's Fault I'm Sure He Is Just The Same." In a January 12 Ace of Spades post, Ace posted a picture of a volunteer laying the "Together We Thrive" T-shirts on the back of chairs and wrote "This has nothing to do with photo-ops. All memorial services and funerals have their own slogans and t-shirts these days. Didn't you know that?" Ace also claimed:

Unfair: Actually, I don't have any evidence the t-shirts were put out by Obama's people. I suspect they were, but it could have been Brewer's people. It could also have been Giffords' family or supporters.

For all I know Obama is just going along with this and might even have objected himself by saying, "T-shirts? Really?"

But while I have no evidence it's Obama's fault I'm sure he is just the same.

I learned that from the [mainstream media]. [Ace of Spades HQ, 01/12/11]

Malkin Complains About Speech's "Timing" And "The Hooting, The Hollering, The Incredibly Inappropriate Tone." On the January 13 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, Fox News contributor and blogger Michelle Malkin said the speech was at "the wrong time" and criticized the president for "waiting several days." She continued, "[Y]ou do have to question the timing of it, and as so many of my readers and viewers of that supposed memorial event reacted last night, the hooting, the hollering, the incredibly inappropriate tone and setting for something that should have been uniformly a somber occasion." Later in the interview, co-host Steve Doocy played video of Rep. Wasserman-Schultz (D-FL), who was in attendance at the rally and said, "It wasn't a pep rally." Doocy said, "At our house ... we were expecting something very somber ... but it seemed like a political rally or a pep rally at some times." Malkin responded:

MALKIN: Yeah. The University of Arizona put on this event and it even had a branding and a slogan of "Together We Strive" --

DOOCY: T-shirts.

MALKIN:  -- and blue T-shirts that were handed out to everyone as souvenirs, and it had a circus-like atmosphere from the very opening, with the opening prayer that seemed to ramble from the Native American speaker, and then all of the hooting and hollering, as I mentioned. And with all due respect to Congressman Wasserman-Schultz, I don't know what planet she was on because you could see it, you could hear it. [Fox News' Fox & Friends, 01/13/11]

Malkin Calls Speech A "Bizarre Pep Rally," Complains About T-Shirts. In a January 12 post on MichelleMalkin.com, Malkin claimed she was "liveblogging the bizarre pep rally." Malkin's updates frequently cited "whoops and hollers" from the crowd and later called the performance of "Simple Gifts" by the choir "a rare moment of solace in the program." Malkin also complained about the presence of T-shirts and slogans featuring the "Together We Thrive" logo, claiming, "Yes, the Tucson massacre is being branded" (emphasis in original). Malkin continued:

Attendees at the memorial tonight report that they are being handed out the blue and white t-shirts as they enter the venue.

A reader in attendance tells me via Twitter that volunteers will be wearing red-and-white shirts. He's going to try and upload a photo.

[...]

Will there be giant foam fingers and blue cotton candy, too?

Isn't the churning of the instant messaging machine a bit, well, unseemly?

Can't the Democrat political stage managers give it a break just once? [Michelle Malkin, 01/12/11]

Later, in an update, Malkin wrote:

As noted above, the University of Arizona announced the Together We Thrive event -- and a few readers write in to say that the campus initiated the logo/campaign. Given U of A president Robert Shelton's embarrassing, thinly-veiled partisan cheerleading for Obama tonight, it may indeed be a 100 percent-campus-initiated campaign. Given the Obama White House's meticulous attention to stage prop details, however, I would say the odds of involvement by Axelrod/Plouffe & Co. are high. [Michelle Malkin, 01/12/11]

Fox Nation: "Disrespectful: Memorial Turns Into Campaign Rally In Tucson." On January 13, Fox News' blog Fox Nation linked to a KTBS editorial under the headline "Disrespectful: Memorial Turns Into Campaign Rally in Tucson." From Fox Nation: [Fox Nation, 01/13/11]

Disrespectful Obama speech FN

NewsBusters Attacks "Here We Place Our Hands Over Our Hearts" Line From Speech. In a January 12 NewsBusters post, blogger Mark Finkelstein wrote:

Concluding his remarks at the service in Tucson this evening for the victims of the recent shootings, Pres. Obama proclaimed: "here on this earth, we place our hands over our hearts."

Which made me wonder: since when, Pres. Obama? Weren't you the man who ostentatiously declined, during the presidential campaign, to put your hand on your heart during the National Anthem while everyone else on the stage was doing so?

[...]

Will the MSM note the glaring discrepancy between Pres. Obama's current words and recent deeds?

The post continued, "So Pres. Obama goes out of his way to talk of hand over heart.  And his two cabinet officers preceding him at the podium quote the Bible at length, with Eric Holder mentioning Jesus.  Some repositioning toward the traditional middle with 2012 in mind?" [NewsBusters, 01/12/11]

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    • Author by DAWUSS (January 13, 2011 12:43 pm ET)
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      Anyone here surprised? Didn't think so.

      It's rather sad when this is now a predictable outcome...
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      • Author by progressivevoicedaily (January 13, 2011 12:54 pm ET)
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        These people are like cockroaches. They will not go away. Michelle Malkin is a dispicable human being. She's the lowest of the low. Who the hell does she think she is to criticize the "tone" of the community in which this tragedy happened?? Un friggin believable.
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        • Author by Imbecile (January 13, 2011 12:57 pm ET)
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          One of the perks of being in the morality police is getting to tell people how to grieve and memorialize people.
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          • Author by mfasta (January 13, 2011 2:43 pm ET)
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            Check out the video of the memorial service at Virginia Tech, on YouTube. Those people hooting and hollering weren't grieving. They were cheering for their hero. Grieving generally involves tears, hushed silence, respectful attention to the feelings of the bereaved. Think of a funeral.
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            • Author by revcocoa (January 13, 2011 2:59 pm ET)
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              Virginia Tech was a student shooting other students. That's a very different dynamic. While I might have preferred a more somber tone as well, consider for a minute the fact that everybody has been emphasizing how politically volatile a place the state of Arizona is right now. I think the enthusiasm was, in a sense, a way for the people to distance themselves from the killer. It was their way of saying, "We aren't opposed to our government-- regardless of our opinion on particular policy."
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              • Author by fairliberal (January 15, 2011 2:14 am ET)
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                If Az is such a politically volitile place why didn't that left wing sheriff do his job and have some officers at a public event such as Giffords' appearance? He of all people should have seen the potential for trouble in such a volitile environment. He didn't do his job and now he blames others for instigating the murders. Since the murderer was a young kid he was probably inspired by Obama's run for the Presidency and influenced by Obama's rhetoric in stating that " we bring a gun". Obama did have a great effect on the young voters. He may also have seen the political ads by a democratic candidate firing a rifle in a political ad, or the democrat who called for Rick Scott to be shot. Also the use of bullseyes by the DNC could easily have led him down the path of violence. It is time that Obama and the democratic party cleaned up their act and stopped with the violent references. Look what all of these actions have led to, 6 dead and many more wounded. The left has blood on their collective hands. I guess Paul Krugman and the NY Times missed all of that.
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                • Author by fairliberal (January 15, 2011 2:16 am ET)
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                  volatile
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                • Author by chuckie (January 15, 2011 2:35 am ET)
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                  Keep working on that theme. It won't work any better, but maybe it will keep you busy and away from heavy machinery.

                  The congresswoman was shot in the back of the head. Was the Sherriff supposed to be protecting her? Or the Judge? or the nine year old girl? Or the elderly couple? Or are you saying that the police should follow around everybody with a Glock or a big magazine clip. I admit, it might solve the unemployment problem.

                  What a moran.
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                  • Author by fairliberal (January 15, 2011 4:41 pm ET)
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                    I am saying that the head law enforcement officer that regards a situation as volatile should have the sense to have some police presense at an affair such as this one, period. That is just good common sense police work. Apparently he lacks that quality.

                    It seems you are the moron for not being able to deduce that from my comments.
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                    • Author by mary59 (January 15, 2011 6:51 pm ET)
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                      It seems to me that you are calling for more tax dollars so that law enforcement officers can be present at every gathering that involves any politician. Good luck selling that at your local "no taxation" rallies.
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                • Author by PaulinMaryland (January 15, 2011 9:23 am ET)
                     
                  I don't know a single Democrat who owns a gun.
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                • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 1:24 pm ET)
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                  actually, it's the Tea Party and GOP that did those things. do try to keep up... thanks for playing.
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                  • Author by fairliberal (January 15, 2011 3:44 pm ET)
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                    Your response shows that you are truly clueless. Everything I pointed out about Obama and the dems is 100% factual. Perhaps you should put down the bong and try researching a little.
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                    • Author by mary59 (January 15, 2011 7:11 pm ET)
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                      Awesome, sueld.
                      Now post a link to the Paris Business Review parody site again and you can retire thinking that you have triumphed.
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                    • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 7:50 pm ET)
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                      Everything I pointed out about Obama and the dems is 100% factual.
                      Yes, all factual, except for this part:
                      If Az is such a politically volitile place why didn't that left wing sheriff do his job and have some officers at a public event such as Giffords' appearance? He of all people should have seen the potential for trouble in such a volitile environment. He didn't do his job and now he blames others for instigating the murders. Since the murderer was a young kid he was probably inspired by Obama's run for the Presidency and influenced by Obama's rhetoric in stating that " we bring a gun". Obama did have a great effect on the young voters. He may also have seen the political ads by a democratic candidate firing a rifle in a political ad, or the democrat who called for Rick Scott to be shot. Also the use of bullseyes by the DNC could easily have led him down the path of violence. It is time that Obama and the democratic party cleaned up their act and stopped with the violent references. Look what all of these actions have led to, 6 dead and many more wounded. The left has blood on their collective hands. I guess Paul Krugman and the NY Times missed all of that.
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            • Author by foghornleghorn (January 13, 2011 3:10 pm ET)
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              Think of a funeral.

              It wasn't a funeral. It was a memorial service.
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              • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 10:07 pm ET)
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                Give it up. Accept that, to these "people" anyone who doesn't hive-think and walk in lockstep with them is not going to be considered human, and therefor is not going to be considered worth caring one whit about. It wouldn't have mattered how anyone comported themselves, these folks who consider themselves to be the only true Americans would have found something to be unhappy about. As they and their leaders have been saying since January of 2009, we are worse than communists, we hate America and need to be exterminated. No matter what these paragons of virtue are saying out loud, deep in their hearts they mourn that Loughner only got a single legislator, and didn't manage to kill her. They have all refused to tone down the hate, and instead have accused liberal non-Americans of being hateful by pointing out the rhetoric that may have contributed to the disaster. The fact that their base has jumped to their defense has shown people like Limbaugh, Palin, and Beck that rather than toning down the vitriol, they can get away with ramping it up.

                When Rush Limbaugh can refer to a 9-year-old gunned down by a maniac as "the nine year old little girl who was snuffed out" without suffering any significant backlash, that is proof that the people who support him are nothing more than rabid animals.
                And if you want to classify that as hateful vitriol from the left, you just feel free.
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                • Author by dwbat (January 14, 2011 6:00 pm ET)
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                  Beautiful point. When I asked my father if he had watched our President's speech he replied,"No, I didn't. I couldn't get past the crowd cheering because it was a memorial."

                  Upon further investigation my father admitted that the only parts of the speech he watched were the parts shown by Faux.

                  How are we supposed to give in to productive political discourse when only two of three sides are willing to work with each other (Left of Center, Right of Center, and of course, the people who can't comprehend the history of their own name, the Tea Party)?
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                • Author by katalystik (January 14, 2011 7:58 pm ET)
                     
                  Excellent post! I wish I could fan you. Its hard to understand how someone carries around such hatred & negativity all the time. And seem to actually thrive on it. I'm grateful to be able to see all the beauty in the world.

                  Thanks!
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                • Author by fairliberal (January 15, 2011 2:30 am ET)
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                  " They have all refused to tone down the hate, and instead have accused liberal non-Americans of being hateful by pointing out the rhetoric that may have contributed to the disaster"

                  Who racheted up the hate as soon as the news broke about the shooting? Was it the right or was it the left? And what evidence did they have? It might have been Obama's use of the term " we bring a gun" that set this nut off. So he listened to his political hero and brought one.
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                  • Author by ptluzzi59 (January 15, 2011 9:19 am ET)
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                    the blame was put where it belonged! on you people!
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                    • Author by fairliberal (January 15, 2011 3:47 pm ET)
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                      Show the connection between the killer and any right wing group or politician. You can't. Nor can the liar Krugman or the laughable NY Times or any of your lefty heros at MSDNC or any other group.

                      You are just another liberal bot who repeats what other liars tell you to think.
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                      • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 7:51 pm ET)
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                        You are just another troll who repeats what other liars tell you to think.
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                  • Author by foghornleghorn (January 15, 2011 11:39 am ET)
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                    Who racheted up the hate as soon as the news broke about the shooting?

                    Exposing and highlighting hate speech doesn't equal hate speech.

                    Make a note of it.
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                    • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 1:33 pm ET)
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                      "Exposing and highlighting hate speech doesn't equal hate speech."

                      exactly, unfortunately the Palin, BeckyBoo, Limpy followers cannot comprehend the difference. they're understanding of "freedom of speech" means they can say and do anything they want. and anyone who points out their hate speech is attacking that freedom and should just (in the 'immortal' words of O'Lyely) "shut up!".

                      it's difficult to have an adult conversation with a tantruming two year old.
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                    • Author by fairliberal (January 15, 2011 4:46 pm ET)
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                      Did you make a note of who was using the bullseyes and crosshairs that the left now finds objectionable? Did you make a note of which candidate was suggesting that another candidate be shot ? did you make a note of who was speaking of bringing a gun to the fight? Did you make a note of who was discharging a rifle in his political ad?

                      But I am still waiting for any of you bright individuals making all the allegations of a connection to the right by this killer to present any evidence, so far NO ONE has. Perhaps you can do better? I doubt it.
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                      • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 7:54 pm ET)
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                        We're still waiting for you to prove there is no connection.

                        Bull's eyes are vastly different from rifle sight crosshairs.

                        Bringing a gun to the fight was a movie quote. It isn't quite up to the level of "Reload" and "We came unarmed -- this time" or "If ballots fail, bullets", as Allen West's (R - Teatard) new chief of staff said.
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                  • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 1:27 pm ET)
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                    I dunno, fair. Did you notice that Sheriff Dupnik didn't point at anyone or any group in particular, but simply said that the vitriolic rhetoric needed to be toned down?

                    Immediatly the right wing propaganda machine yelped as if they had been bitten, claiming that he had targeted them specifically.

                    Guilty conscience maybe?
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                    • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 1:35 pm ET)
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                      "Immediatly the right wing propaganda machine yelped as if they had been bitten, claiming that he had targeted them specifically.

                      Guilty conscience maybe?"

                      ditto, they went into defense mode the moment that story hit the airwaves.
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                      • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 3:05 pm ET)
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                        What is funny is, the trolls here seem to be putting the lie to the claim that no one is affected by the right wing hate speech. Witness how very many of them swear that Dupnik named names before Fox and comrades jumped on the defense. If that isn't being influenced by the lies and hate spewed by these paragons of virtue, I don't know what it is.
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                    • Author by fairliberal (January 15, 2011 3:56 pm ET)
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                      And who did Krugman and the NY Times blame, they were the first to start the blame game. I blamed Dupnik for not doing his job . It was the times and Krugman who did cite the right .
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                      • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 7:56 pm ET)
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                        And who did Krugman and the NY Times blame, they were the first to start the blame game. I blamed Dupnik for not doing his job . It was the times and Krugman who did cite the right.
                        Krugman did nothing of the sort. Dupnik did his job. You have less than no clue what the hell you are talking about.
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            • Author by chrisfrenzy (January 13, 2011 4:36 pm ET)
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              I was at the Virginia Tech service. True it was very different. But everyone I know now owns a "We Are Virginia Tech" t-shirt, which came from Nikki Giovanni's glorious poem written for the event. The unity that her message and those shirts inspired helped a large and shattered community come together and begin to heal.

              I saw absolutely nothing wrong with the behavior of the people at the AZ memorial service. For instance, I've attended a number of memorials in African American churches and I can tell you they are not somber, solemn events. Indeed, they are raucous celebrations of the lives of those we've lost.

              That the people in attendance were so moved by the president's words is not surprising in the slightest. Nor was it inappropriate. I think the victims would agree.
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            • Author by SluggerOToole (January 13, 2011 8:27 pm ET)
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              Somebody's never been to an Irish wake, apparently.
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            • Author by newzhound (January 14, 2011 11:01 am ET)
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              mfasta: It wasn't a funeral - it was a memorial service.

              There's a difference - that's why they have different names. See, that's the way the English language works. We give different events different names so we can tell them apart.
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            • Author by mjlilgui (January 14, 2011 1:10 pm ET)
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              Did you go to Virginia Tech? I was there when it happened. I see nothing wrong with the memorial service in Arizona.
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            • Author by dommanno3075 (January 14, 2011 2:27 pm ET)
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              A memorial service is not a funeral.
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        • Author by mfasta (January 13, 2011 2:26 pm ET)
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          What was unfrigging believeable was the t-shirts, campaign signs and convention-like atmosphere. I have no problem with the speech, and Obama's demeanor, but the audience was inappropriate for a memorial service.

          And it is curious that the same president who mocked the Bible in a partisan speech, "Should we follow Leviticus or Deuteronomy? Following The sermon on the mount..." now quotes the Bible reverantly. Look it up, you'll find it on Youtube.

          I tell the truth, unlike David Brock who said Beck burned Pelosi in effigy. Show me that video, but you can't because it doesn't exist.

          Understand this, the left jumped at the chance to blame the right WITH NO EVIDENCE.

          Was Charles Manson brainwashed by the right? How about Lee Harvey Oswald? How about Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler(National Socialist Party), Mao or Che? There is evil in this world and there is mental illness.....everything is not about politics.
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          • Author by progressivevoicedaily (January 13, 2011 2:42 pm ET)
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            Timothy McVey was. So was the guy on his way to shoot up the Tides Foundation in San Francisco. Instead he got himself into a gun fight with California Highway Patrol and officers were shot. You have absolutely no clue what your talking about. Or you do but your playing stupid like Sarah Palin. Either way, it's corrosive, destructive, and doesn't get any problems solved. When will the right stops acting like school children and start to act like adults?? If you think Palin's remarks yesterday, and her attempt to put the spotlight on herself and play victim, your absolutely DELUSIONAL.
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            • Author by darseyh (January 14, 2011 9:56 am ET)
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              "Or do you but your playing stupid like Sarah Palin ..."

              I vehemently object to your characterization of Sarah. She is not playing.
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            • Author by fairliberal (January 15, 2011 2:24 am ET)
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              Hey , who is Timothy McVey?

              And BTW, who do you blame for the murders in Az? Why not elaborate on that a bit, you're such an intellectual giant with a keen grasp for the obvious, that I am certain many would be interested in your comments. Perhaps you have the evidence that no one else seems to have? I'll wait.
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              • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 1:34 pm ET)
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                Let me help you out here, "fair"liberal. Jared Loughner is 100% responsible for his actions. No one has suggested otherwise. What has been suggested is that the atmosphere of hatred generated by the right wing media, calling liberals nazis and vampires, accusing them of trying to take away everything and destroy America, fueled his crazy. People have called in vain for the rhetoric to be toned down, only to see the right instead turn it up a notch or three. Simple Sarah's "woe is me, I am so downtrodden" video, attempting to make it about her, was a blatant ploy, designed to make her followers believe that she was the one most affected. And apparently it has worked.
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          • Author by progressivevoicedaily (January 13, 2011 2:46 pm ET)
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            Beck did in a mocking fashion act out the dousing, and burning of Nancy Pelosi on his tv show. I saw it the day it aired. Nancy Pelosi was played by that bafoon on FoxPAC's show Red Eye. It's true, it happened, and cookoos in this country don't always see things as humorous, or metaphorically like we may. This rhetoric has consequences, and unfortunately as she predicted herself, Mrs. Giffords is fighting for her life as we type because of it.
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              • Author by foghornleghorn (January 13, 2011 3:16 pm ET)
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                All caps doesn't help your false equivalency argument.

                But tell us, why is it always the Democrats that get attacked and/or killed? Is our hateful rhetoric just not as effective, or is the audience on the right more prone to violent acts?
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                • Author by patrioticallday (January 13, 2011 3:35 pm ET)
                     
                  So are you saying it is ok for the progressives to say these things as long as nobody dies? What about the police that died from the bombings? What about Reagan? Was he a Dem? There are crazy people on both the right and the left, its time for everyone to realize this.
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                • Author by progressivevoicedaily (January 13, 2011 5:00 pm ET)
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                  Evidently patriotnoneoftheday feels the left is speaking their violent rhetoric to each other, therefore killing one another. Of course, who ever this troll is failed to address the facts of my post.
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              • Author by datruthfarmer (January 13, 2011 3:20 pm ET)
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                CaNnOt rEaD aLL CaPS fRom "Gary"
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              • Author by GPFandango (January 13, 2011 4:08 pm ET)
                   
                Again with the Bill Ayers. Obama was in grade school when Bill Ayres was an activist. They went to some political meetings at the same time. Do you want to be judged based on everyone you ever spent time sharing the same space and gtime? Do you want to be judged by something soneone else did when you were 8 years old? Give it a rest.
                Oh, and Ayers and obama are not friends and he certainly doesn't work in the white House.
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              • Author by Timmee (January 14, 2011 11:26 am ET)
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                It was Ayn Rand that said that the power of any government, beneath all the paperwork was a gun. I don't see how people that do semantic acrobatics to let Beck off the hook can get so hung up on a "quote" they got from somewhere with no context. Now Mao is involved...
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                • Author by patrioticallday (January 14, 2011 2:30 pm ET)
                     
                  There is a video with Bloom saying this. He is stating his belief. He states he agrees with Mao. How is this out of context? What about Mr. Ayers stating he doesen't regret the bombings?
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                • Author by HRN (January 14, 2011 5:34 pm ET)
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                  Is there an equivalent to Godwin concerning Mao? The freepers seem to have caught on.....
                  (We can include Che if needed....)
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              • Author by raddave43 (January 14, 2011 12:01 pm ET)
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                PLEASE TELL ME WHO SAID THIS. "I'M TOO DRUCK TO TASTE THIS CHICKEN."
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              • Author by dommanno3075 (January 14, 2011 2:31 pm ET)
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                PLEASE TELL ME, HOW CLOSE ARE BECK, HANNITY, LIMBAUGH TO THE WHITEHOUSE NOW OR WITH PRESIDENT BUSH?
                Since you asked - Beck, Limbaugh et al. were in bed with the Shrub. At times they were the puppet masters pulling Georgie's strings.
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              • Author by HRN (January 14, 2011 5:30 pm ET)
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                "Patriot" in your screen name is like using "Vegan" in a screen name on a PETA site comment board....you're either full of it, or you shouldn't have to mention it.
                "Patriot".....really.
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              • Author by dwbat (January 14, 2011 6:05 pm ET)
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                Well, his "bombings," if we can call them such, weren't done with the intent of harming regular folk. Rather they were designed to send a message to The Establishment that the Vietnam War was Unconstitutional and illegal. Also, please note that NOBODY was harmed (besides the bombers themselves) during ANY of The Weather Underground's "terrorist plots." I can use all caps too...
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              • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 2:11 pm ET)
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                how typical, the facts get in the way, the low information voters start screaming. that's sad part of all of this is they just don't get it. you can't reason with the unreasonable.

                "WHAT ABOUT BILL AYERS? WHO IS HE ASSOCIATED WITH? IN FACT JUST RECENTLY HE IS ON VIDEO STATING HE DOES NOT REGRET THE BOMBINGS."

                can you provide a link to that, or is that one of those made up FAUX stories.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (January 13, 2011 3:13 pm ET)
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            I tell the truth

            People who say that are more often than not liars.

            the left jumped at the chance to blame the right WITH NO EVIDENCE.

            Why won't this lie go away? The sheriff didn't name names. It was the hate radio blabbers who somehow KNEW he was talking about them and they began defending themselves.
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            • Author by dwbat (January 14, 2011 6:09 pm ET)
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              It's the Dunning-Kruger Effect, those who say, "Yeah, I'm a great driver, and all other drivers out there are the problem," are usually the people you never want to get into a car with.
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          • Author by marionetta (January 13, 2011 3:35 pm ET)
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            You've just proved the point of the article.
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            • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 6:17 pm ET)
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              "They just can't help themselves."

              This is absolutely true and absolutely sad and disgraceful. They can't really find anything wrong with the speech, so they look for anything to call foul on, and the conditions are completely arbitrary and change to suit the attack.

              Malkin says the timing was wrong, but anyone who knows Malkin's style knows that the timing would be wrong no matter what. Any sooner and she would have said President Obama was "rushing in for a photo-op" or some other such nonsense. There is NOTHING that the President can do to avoid some nonsense charge from the Malkins of the world. They will always find something to nitpick.

              Various bloggers complained about the t-shirts which apparently were not created by, endorsed by, approved of, funded, or distributed by anyone linked to the President...yet they complain about them because even though they have no proof, they just "know" they must be behind it.

              When the t-shirt attacks fell flat, they switched to a "campaign atmosphere" attack. I guess if they could find the plants in the audience, or offer any proof whatsoever that the atmosphere was encouraged by the administration they would have a point. The right wing media in their eagerness to find SOMETHING wrong, will not start blaming the people of the state where the tragedy took place.

              On the subject of coaching a rally, I suppose the Obama Administration doesn't need to send FOX news producers to stoke up the crowd like a tea party rally. -oops!

              Also, what's the problem with the "opened her eyes" line exactly? Another mindless nitpick in the desperate attempt to find some flaw in the event to exploit.

              To these conservatives, President Obama is essentially guilty of being a Democrat on a sunny day.
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              • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 9:20 am ET)
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                To these conservatives, President Obama is essentially guilty of being a Democrat on a sunny day.


                Here, let me fix that for you, slaw:

                To these conservatives, President Obama is essentially guilty of being a Black Democratic President.
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                • Author by dwbat (January 14, 2011 6:11 pm ET)
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                  Considering he's the most centrist president we've had since I've had the cognitive ability of reasoning. (Which also happens to be the most leftist president as well)
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          • Author by Old_Benjamin (January 13, 2011 3:35 pm ET)
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            I tell the truth, unlike David Brock who said Beck burned Pelosi in effigy. Show me that video, but you can't because it doesn't exist.


            Where did David Brock say this? I know he has highlighted the show where Beck pretended to cover someone in gasoline and saying...

            "President Obama, why don't you just set us on fire?"

            Perhaps you are just one of the many morans here and got confused about the time he pretended to poison the former speaker?

            "Drink it. Drink it. Drink it."


            Oh and he wasn't mocking the bible, simp, he was pointing out that if government were to follow the bible as some advocate, what books or parts of the bible should be followed - 'cause you know some if it's kinda conflicting.

            Binary thinking again.
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            • Author by Old_Benjamin (January 13, 2011 3:37 pm ET)
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              link to "Drink it. Drink it. Drink it." video


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            • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 4:19 pm ET)
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              Brock did, in his Hardball appearance, say that Beck had burned Pelosi in effigy. I think that it is possible that he misspoke and meant to say that Beck had poisoned her in effigy.

              Either way, if he had done something like that with Dennis Hastert in mind in 2004, he would have found himself on a fast plane ride to Gitmo.
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          • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 13, 2011 4:46 pm ET)
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            It was the decision of the AZ State students to provide the T-shirts. Had President Obama provided them, you can be sure that they'd have been emblazoned with the words, "Yes, We Can" or "Hope and Change."

            As a black American I am fed up with all of the nitpicking people like you do where President Obama is concerned. You run your mouths and call him weak on the one hand, and on the other, you say he's responsible for the hangnail you just noticed on the pinky finger of your right hand. Which is it? A person can't be weak and all powerful at the same time!

            I wish whatever the real problem you have with President Obama, that you'd speak up so that we as a nation can get past this.

            If you don't like his policies, say so, but do it by offering a good alternative solution to the problem. Few conservatives are able/willing to do this. You all will have to face the hard fact that President Obama is very intelligent. I know you have problems understanding this because you've been fed a steady mantra of "blacks can't do anything right" all of your lives. Well, the reality is very different, and these constant attacks show that you have problems dealing with reality.

            African kingdoms had advanced civilizations while the whites in Europe at the same time were still living in caves. the Greek philosopher, Herodotus, traveled to Africa to visit these kingdoms, and he was very impressed. It's only those who don't have a good education that have problems understanding that every group of people can have intelligent members that are a part of it.

            I'll just bet that you haven't an inkling of all of the scientific contributions Muslims have made to the world either because you're too busy calling all of them "terrorists."

            Simple minds require simple answers.
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            • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 6:25 pm ET)
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              Excellent post!

              This hateful and vindictive atmosphere gets so tiring. There is nothing President Obama can do that the right wing will not find a problem with. Let's take this a step further, these nitpicked and out of context criticisms of the smallest minutia will override any and all positive responses in their reporting.

              At this point, right wing media figures are nothing more then hacks paid to demonize democrats. They have nothing positive to say about anything, especially the people in power who pay them. What a miserable existence it is to work only at the politics of personal destruction.
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            • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 10:15 pm ET)
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              Listen to the answer given by this Republican Congressman, and you will understand where the entire Republican party stands on offering a good alternative solution to a problem.

              Representative Michael Burgess... oopsie!

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            • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (January 14, 2011 4:50 am ET)
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              BRAVO Cugagcmu, BRAVO!!
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          • Author by Aries411 (January 13, 2011 5:44 pm ET)
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            ^^^ YOU and people like you are what is wrong with this country.

            "campaign signs" ?? link us to them

            "t shirts" it was the idea of a student and the university liked it, and paid for it out of their own $$, no tax dollars involved.

            and the administration had nothing to do with it and knew nothing about it.

            kiss off, you and your ilk are vile

            We CORRECTLY blamed the right for the violent rhetoric.
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          • Author by Biggie (January 13, 2011 6:44 pm ET)
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            I looked it up on YouTube. He didn't mock the Bible and I don't see how anyone can honestly claim he did.

            Here's what he said:

            "Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount...."





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          • Author by titoista (January 13, 2011 7:22 pm ET)
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            there was absolutely nothing wrong with people cheering for the fact that Giffords made a great stride in her miraculous recovery,or the young man who most likely saved peoples' lives.to say otherwise is plain heartless.it was a memorial,not a funeral,and was not only for the dead,but the survivors.so cheer the survivors and the heroes,and remember the dead.and yes,Hitler was a right wing psychopath.the nazi party is RIGHT WING.Oswals was right wing.Stalin,Mao,Ceaucescu and Pol Pot were neither communist nor socialist.this was merely the guise under which they committed their atrocities.and Che?he was a fighter for the oppressed,the poor,the down trodden,the helpless,the voiceless and the victims of oppressive governments supported by the u.s.
            if you really wish to see a true example of communism/socialism,look no further than Jugoslavija under Marshall Tito.he made his country great by defying Stalin,and the western countries,by taking control of the country for the people,not for outside interests.he abolished the death penalty,and made pacts with second and third world countries that helped them all to strengthen each others' autonomy.but please,read for yourself,his form of market socialism was the greatest thing to happen to any country after WW2.
            and i would suggest you read about the spectrum of democracy in all of it's forms before you say,sorry,suggest things like Hitler being left wing.
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          • Author by totto79121303 (January 13, 2011 11:53 pm ET)
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            He may not have burned Pelosi in effigy, but he did show exactly how he would poison her....
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          • Author by katalystik (January 14, 2011 8:01 pm ET)
               
            Oh I see. So you're saying that the actual mourners, the people who directly suffered this horrific event, are the ones who are inappropriate? The community who will have to endure the pain of this tragedy for years to come? In your view they are mourning in the wrong way?

            Is that really what you're saying?
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          • Author by chuckie (January 15, 2011 2:46 am ET)
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            So let me get this straight....Hitler was the head of the National Socialist Party, so I guess you think he was liberal.

            Just in case you think members of the Tea Party all drink tea together, you might want to do a little research.

            [quote].....everything is not about politics[quote]
            Not everything is, but when you kill a politician and a Judge because you hate the Government, that kinda is.
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          • Author by WBS (January 15, 2011 8:58 am ET)
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            Mocked the Bible? You Tube? Charles Manson?

            I have a question, do you have a serious mental disability? Your rant is about the least intelligent thing I have seen on the subject. People like you are the reason things like MMFA exist.

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          • Author by RAB (January 15, 2011 9:30 am ET)
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            "I tell the truth, unlike David Brock who said Beck burned Pelosi in effigy. Show me that video, but you can't because it doesn't exist."

            You're right - Beck didn't burn Pelosi in effigy. That bout of violent imagery was presented by a different "commentator." Though I can understand the confusion because they do sound the same.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0E5D-_mV3Y

            However, Beck is guilty of enacting a mock poisoning of Nancy Pelosi.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UudQuVOwSds

            If a student had produced either of those videos and the target was his/her teacher or principal they would be expelled from school and possibly face criminal charges. If someone's spouse made threats like that it would justify a protection from abuse order. Ordinary citizens can also be subjected to defamation of character lawsuits (slander and libel). Yet violent speech/threats/libel and slander from politicians and commentators is above the law and protected by the First Amendment?

            I think the point that's being missed is it's okay to disagree/protest when displeased with the status quo, just drop the violent rhetoric because in reality it's only one step away from actually committing the crime.

            The act of murder typically begins with murderous thoughts or fantasies. Fear of consequences (or a conscience) is enough to restrain most but we seem to be living in a society that has become so hateful and angry the usual restraints appear to have weakened. To suggest that only the mentally ill lack proper restraints is a dangerous fallacy.

            The mentally ill process the prevailing culture or climate in the country and construct a reality that appears incomprehensible to the majority of "sane" individuals. What was he/she thinking? However, statistics indicate that the mentally ill are responsible for only a small fraction of the violent crimes committed in the U.S. each year. So what are the factors that might cause otherwise "sane" individuals to cross the line?

            What were people thinking in WWII Germany, or in Rwanda, or during any other mass murder/genocide recorded in history? Did they suddenly cross the murderous line on a whim? No. Each event was precipitated by years of unresolved societal problems - a breeding ground for civil unrest and even mass murder. Individuals or a population are first identified/labeled/targeted, dehumanized via propaganda, conveniently assigned the blame for all of life's ills, then "justifiably" eliminated.

            I have no agenda or political leanings - only a student of history and human behavior. The labeling/polarizing/dehumanizing/blaming process is well under way in America. A "mass" agreement to drop the labels and a willingness to attack the real issues, not each other, might be helpful at this point - at least worth a try.



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          • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 1:42 pm ET)
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            "Understand this, the left jumped at the chance to blame the right WITH NO EVIDENCE."

            wrong sweetie, i've been following all the news stations since this story broke. i heard no one blamed anyone (save for FAUX and co) because the facts (can you say f a c t s?) were not all in. you see that's the difference betwixt low information voters, they make stuff up and "damn those pesky facts". FAUX noise and their ilk went in to immediate attack mode. squealing; "quit blaming us." can you say... 'guilty conscious'.
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      • Author by Porkeater (January 13, 2011 1:15 pm ET)
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        It's rather sad when this is now a predictable outcome...

        I am, however, pleased that the President made it hard for them.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (January 13, 2011 1:37 pm ET)
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          Obama's really, really good at that sort of thing, and it's gotta just stick in the craw of the nutjobs.
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          • Author by mfasta (January 13, 2011 2:44 pm ET)
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            So are you following Obama's recomendation to unite, or is this vitreol more of the same?
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            • Author by foghornleghorn (January 13, 2011 3:47 pm ET)
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              "Stick in the craw" = vetreol (sic)? Setting the bar kind low there, aren't you pardner?
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              • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 9:26 am ET)
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                To ba fair to mfasta, in order to pick out any real and ongoing vitriol (note the spelling there, mfasta) you really do have to set the bar extremely low. Otherwise, why would they have to resort to "they do it too" without giving any specific answers, or the assertion that pointing out the hate speech is, in itself, hate speech?
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            • Author by Porkeater (January 13, 2011 3:48 pm ET)
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              And you? Might i guess that you agree with the person who said today that "civility is the new censorship" or "we don't need to heal"?
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            • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 4:21 pm ET)
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              Which vitriol is that, mfasta?

              You mean where we point out the scurrilous verbal attacks that all of the right wing media department is making about the speech?

              That vitriol?
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              • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 13, 2011 4:48 pm ET)
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                You got it wrong, ci. It's vetreol. LOL
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                • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 5:21 pm ET)
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                  Yeah, I guess I shouldn't make assumptions.

                  What the heck is vitreol?
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                • Author by SluggerOToole (January 13, 2011 8:23 pm ET)
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                  "Ask your doctor about Vetreol."
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                  • Author by dommanno3075 (January 14, 2011 2:36 pm ET)
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                    "Ask your doctor about Vetreol."
                    "If delusions persist for more than four hours, seek emergency medical attention immediately."
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            • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 6:31 pm ET)
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              So are you following Obama's recomendation to unite, or is this vitreol more of the same?


              Mfasta, can you post anything to do with the article? Looks like you're trolling the posts for anything that you can pounce on. Seems to me you are behaving exactly like the right wing bloggers and pundits the article is spotlighting.

              What did YOU think of the speech mfasta? What is YOUR appraisal of the call to civility by the President?
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              • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 9:27 am ET)
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                All you have to do for that is listen to Limbaugh and anyone on Fox. Mfasta gets his opinions from them, so it would be redundant for him to repeat his thoughts.
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      • Author by mfasta (January 13, 2011 2:32 pm ET)
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        I haven't heard anyone criticize the content of Obama's speech or his demeanor. I think he was respectful and solemn. But the T-shirts, campaign signs, cheering, hooting, shout outs were inappropriate at a memorial service. Just as wearing a bathing suit to a funeral is inappropriate. The speech was fine, but as people are grieving and praying that their loved ones would survive, a pep rally atmosphere is just wrong.
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        • Author by n'est-ce pas (January 13, 2011 2:51 pm ET)
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          Way to stick with the Luntz-approved sound bit, fellah. Don't engage in any critical thinking, just repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat that lie. Good on ya!
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          • Author by jarossiter (January 13, 2011 3:09 pm ET)
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            I happen to agree that the hooting and hollering was inappropriate for the occasion. My wife and I cringed just after Pres. Obama being introduced.

            I do not know what could have been done about it, they were on a college campus and the college kids are Pres. Obama's most vocal supporters, but it was disturbing.

            I had no problem with their reaction, once the speech started, clapping for the survivors, victims and heroes and the call to living up to the 9 yr old Christina's vision of America.

            But, it is nitpicking to make that an issue to use against the President.
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            • Author by red1 (January 13, 2011 3:24 pm ET)
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              He could have acted like an adult (something that is too often umcommon these days) and told the audience of mostly children that their behavior was inappropriate.

              I am not making this an issue against the President. He is not alone in being too afraid to tell children they are behaving badly.
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              • Author by foghornleghorn (January 13, 2011 3:49 pm ET)
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                He could have acted like an adult

                Obama did act like an adult. And the audience acted like adults. Why can't you act like an adult and let people assemble the way they want to?
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                • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 4:24 pm ET)
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                  That would be against the constitooshun.

                  Hey, all of you folks who have a problem with the crowd conduct at this memorial, stay the eff away from mine.

                  If you are at my memorial and you aren't partying , I will haunt your a$$.
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                • Author by red1 (January 13, 2011 4:42 pm ET)
                     
                  The jist of your comment seems to be that people should be able act as they wish without criticism. Can I assume then that you will never visit MMFA again since its raison d'être is the criticism of other people's actions?
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                • Author by jjamele2880 (January 13, 2011 6:34 pm ET)
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                  And in my other hand, I've got my talking points for if Obama HAD quietly chastised the hooters and shouters- "Typical Obama, he has to lecture people even at a memorial service, what a dictator! How dare he try to tell people how to react to him- what does he want, just open-mouthed, silent adulation of him?"

                  --mfasta's intern
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                  • Author by red1 (January 14, 2011 12:08 am ET)
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                    haha please....you have no idea who conservatives are if you think their response to chastising children for bad behavior would have been what you suggest.

                    Conservatives would have cheered Obama. They would have cheered him like they have been cheering him for his chastising of the left for attempting to create a link between conservative rhetoric and the actions of a lunatic.
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                    • Author by foghornleghorn (January 14, 2011 11:22 am ET)
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                      for attempting to create a link between conservative rhetoric and the actions of a lunatic.

                      Well, maybe he's not a lunatic. His ex-girlfriend went on Fox News yesterday and said he's faking insanity.

                      All this false outrage might be for naught.

                      Oops!!! Never mind.
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                    • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 1:44 pm ET)
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                      Are you delusional, red? Can you cite a single incidence of conservatives cheering the president when he did or said something that they should have agreed with? They have picked every little nuance that they could about this memorial to demonize, and if President Obama had chastised the crowd, they would have had a problem with that, as well.

                      It has been said, and many times, that if President Obama found a cure for cancer, the right wing would accuse him of having sat on it until it was politically expedient to himself to publicize it.
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              • Author by SMTDL (January 14, 2011 1:27 pm ET)
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                So why didn't Sarah Palin say something to those at campaign rallies hollering "kill Him" after her "palling around with terrorists " comment.At least McCain used to be an adult -He did challenege the elderly lady on the "he's an Arab " comment!He has since stopped doing that, I guess so he doesn't offend Palin . .Everytime a Republican says something to diagree with Birthers they are booed for even saying the POTUS is a citizen or they cop out like the New Speaker of the House ... he can't criticize anyone who's (melting Pot )opinion is different than his..DUHHHHh unless they are Democratic or the President I guess!!!!Why do no prominent Conservatives criticize Rush Limbaugh and then NOT apologize afterwards??
                Where are these adults that should be admonishing all of the bad behavior like hurling insults at congressmen and stomping a woman who happends to diagree with a Republican candidate or who carry signs of the President as a "Monkey see -Monkey spend " caricature.
                Hardly any admonishment for publicly(on live TV) calling the POTUS a liar or a racist. The politicain is still in office the other one still on TV..every day!!Why do so many Republicans have no problem with bringing guns to political rallies..latest one Tom Delay("I would welcome them") of all people...convicted Felon...you're kidding!!!

                Another false equivalency argument!!!
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                • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 3:51 pm ET)
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                  Well, to be fair, who ever accused Simple Sarah of being a rational adult?
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        • Author by br.switzer7337 (January 13, 2011 2:53 pm ET)
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          How dare the people in Tucson have a memorial service the way they want to, without consulting mfasta first to find out what is approriate and what isn't.
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          • Author by Fox News - Nothing But Truth (January 13, 2011 8:57 pm ET)
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            Yeah. How dare you tell the people of Tuscon who knew the victims as well as the homeless kid in China, that they can't cheer about a situation where people were killed.

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            • Author by datruthfarmer (January 14, 2011 3:37 am ET)
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              Memorial: n.
              1. Something, such as a monument or holiday, intended to celebrate or honor the memory of a person, persons or an event.

              Please channel your Fox-News insights for us and give the Fox-News-Nothing-But-Truth official definition of the meaning of a memorial.
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              • Author by Fox News - Nothing But Truth (January 14, 2011 9:05 am ET)
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                : something that keeps remembrance alive: as
                a : monument
                b : something (as a speech or ceremony) that commemorates
                c : keepsake, memento

                I am not sure where you got your wikipedia definition, but mine is from my boys Merriam-Webster.

                The definition of a memorial is not important, the reason for the memorial is. If the memorial was a Gabrielle Giffords Memorial then the reaction from the crowd would have been fine. However, this was also a memorial for the 6 who died, if my 9 year old daughter died I would have been very offended by the way the crowd reacted through out.

                You all got angry about the violent rhetoric from the right. Now explain to me, could the reaction of the crowd also encourage mentally ill people to commit violent acts?
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                • Author by CoolSlaw (January 14, 2011 9:15 am ET)
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                  Actually, it appears the right wing media definition of a memorial is "whatever we need it to be to score political points today, but may change in an instant if we need to alter our talking points".

                  Sorry but...that's how this always works. That's how it is we are so easily able to predict the right wing response to these kind of events.
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                • Author by datruthfarmer (January 14, 2011 1:23 pm ET)
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                  There is your problem. You would be well served by getting your information from more than one source; this is a requirement for critical thinking skills.

                  Try this one:

                  The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition copyright ©2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company. Updated in 2009.

                  mental illness
                  n.
                  Any of various conditions characterized by impairment of an individual's normal cognitive, emotional, or behavioral functioning, and caused by social, psychological, biochemical, genetic, or other factors, such as infection or head trauma. Also called emotional illness, mental disease, mental disorder.

                  Sorry, there is no way to determine in advance what a mentally ill person will do, regardless of what you think. Perhaps, some may see the people cheering the life lived well and seek help.

                  However, we can look at some statistics, or science, and make a educated decision about how to prevent the affects of mental illness that produce memorials.

                  Here is one:
                  Huston and colleagues have estimated that the average 18-year-old will have viewed 200,000 acts of violence on television (Huston, A.C., Donnerstein, E., Fairchild, H. et al. Big World, Small Screen: The Role of Television in American Society. Lincoln, NE: University of Nebraska Press, 1992.)

                  What people see and hear in the media makes a difference.
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        • Author by GPFandango (January 13, 2011 4:11 pm ET)
             
          This was largely a university crowd. One of their own was killed and one of their own was a hero. That's the way young people react. the purpose was to heal, and if cheering their hero helps them heal, what business is it of anyone who was not there?
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 10:25 pm ET)
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          It seems to me that the criticism is more toward the people who arranged the whole thing. That would be ok, but a lot of that criticism seems to be levelled at President Obama, as if he was the one who brought the shirts, as if he called for applause and cheers.

          And for criticism of the speech and demeanor, look to el Fathead, Rush Limbaugh, KKKing of KKKlass and paragon of virtue.
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 9:38 am ET)
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          The t-shirts were provided, free, by the university. The cheering, hooting, and shout outs were provided free by a bunch of college kids. The campaign signs were manufactured by the right, out of whole cloth.

          The faux outrage was manufactured by the right wing media arm.

          And apparently you haven't been listening to the leader of the Republican party, as he has had all kinds of criticism of President Obama, his speech, his demeanor, and other nitpicks as well. So far he hasn't come right out and criticized the president's melanin level (though he has repeatedly done it subliminally), but that will come about sooner or later.
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      • Author by Justmyopinion (January 13, 2011 9:21 pm ET)
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        Funny. The right says the same thing about the left's reaction towards Palin. Round and round we go.
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 4:53 pm ET)
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          I agree. I don't see what the criticism of Sarah is. Why would anyone find fault in Sarah Palin's 8 minute reminder that she is the most affected by this tragedy. After all, she was at cut to the core by people pointing out her use of violent and vitriolic rhetoric. Ms. Giffords merely had a bullet pass through her head. We all need to step back, recognize just how horrific this was to Ms. Palin, and join together to help her heal.
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      • Author by digital2500 (January 14, 2011 10:55 am ET)
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        The sad part is, you can almost see their wheels turning trying to find out how to denigrate this.

        "Hm, let's see. what way can we make the president look bad?

        "What about the speech?"

        "No that won't fly, it was too good."

        "What about the event?"

        Yeah!! It was too raucous for a memorial service!

        IDIOTS!!
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      • Author by mari2jj (January 15, 2011 5:18 pm ET)
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        Look I am a Republican but alas, I thought GW Bush's speaking ability never rose to the inspirational level of any of Obama's speeches. I guess his speech writers did the best they could, but the President's delivery was just not electric in nature like Obama's speeches are. No big deal because no one can be great at everything, but for some totally partisan Republicans to crab about Obama's great speech lacks a bunch of honesty and for sure, shows little concern for the grieving. Come to Arizona and talk to some folks who lost loved ones in Tucson and ask them how they felt about Obama's speech. I am proud that many reputable Republicans in Tuscon and around our great country described Obama's speech as great, inspirational and/or "just right". Obviously, they checked partisanship at the curb before hurting those grieving for lost loved ones. To those who did not do that, PFFFFFFFT I say! You have rendered yourself irrelevant. And that means you, Rush! Oooops, I forgot Shaun!
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      • Author by mari2jj (January 15, 2011 7:50 pm ET)
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        This is no surprise. Unfortunately, if you go to a Republican precincte meeting in which they discuss our President, you need to take ear plugs because some of the most hate filled speech about our President is blasted there. It is the reason I re-registered. Unfortunately, Republicans have gotten so racist and unGodly that they just blast it out even when people not in our party are there. It amazes me how vitriolic they get. It seems their hate rhetoric meter rises in direct proportion to Obama's success. It is like they are totally anti american in this way.
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    • Author by DAWUSS (January 13, 2011 12:43 pm ET)
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      Anyone here surprised? Didn't think so.

      It's rather sad when this is now a predictable outcome...
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    • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 12:43 pm ET)
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      Unrelated, or maybe not, I could swear I just saw what looked like Air Force One on approach to Carswell... er... NAS Fort Worth.
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      • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 8:16 pm ET)
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        Hmm. Well my wife just told me that Biden was here somewhere today, I wonder if that was him I saw on approach. I guess that would have been Air Force Two, then.
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    • Author by Imbecile (January 13, 2011 12:46 pm ET)
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      I'm so glad the Republican media isn't politicizing this event like they said they wouldn't.
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      • Author by seahawks123 (January 13, 2011 2:04 pm ET)
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        That is ok, Obama did it well enough.
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        • Author by Adendrools (January 13, 2011 5:57 pm ET)
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          You're gonna try to criticize him for speaking at all, while the rest of your side criticize him for not speaking soon enough. Wow, don't think that can be won. Way to come up with a fool proof way to complain. Stupid, but fool proof.
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          • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 6:34 pm ET)
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            They have become a parody of themselves, only they're too self righteous and angry to realize it.
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          • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 9:48 am ET)
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            I would ask squawks to provide some evidence that President Obama politicized the event in any way, but that would be futile.
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        • Author by dommanno3075 (January 14, 2011 2:40 pm ET)
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          That is ok, Obama did it well enough.
          Eight words, two lies. You're going to have to work on your lie-to-word-count ratio.
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    • Author by gayinmt (January 13, 2011 12:49 pm ET)
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      No surprise. They are hateful, hateful people.
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (January 13, 2011 12:55 pm ET)
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      That's the point, it's hardwired into their puny excuse for brains. They have to hate, any call for unity from anyone they consider to be liberal will be met with nothing besides scorn and ridicule.
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (January 13, 2011 1:13 pm ET)
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        Why would they want to unite with a socialist, marxist, communist, fascist, Muslim, Kenyan, black guy?

        You're right. Hatred and fear is a drug to these idjits.
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        • Author by Porkeater (January 13, 2011 1:16 pm ET)
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          Why would they

          And indeed, how can they?
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        • Author by mfasta (January 13, 2011 2:38 pm ET)
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          THEY have no problem with the color of his skin. You've been conned on that point. But many people don't trust him, and with good reason. Remember the campaign promises, transparancy, bills on line for us to read BEFORE they're passed. Remember the executive order promising no abortions will be paid or with public funds? Remember him mocking the Bible in a speech? Now he's reverantly quoting the Bible and praying. It's just a little hard to swallow.
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          • Author by jarossiter (January 13, 2011 3:17 pm ET)
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            "Remember the campaign promises, transparancy, bills on line for us to read BEFORE they're passed. "

            Which bill was passed before it was put on line?

            "Remember the executive order promising no abortions will be paid or with public funds? "

            This was not a campaign promise. It was part of the deal to get health care reform passed. And it was issued, so what's the problem.

            "Remember him mocking the Bible in a speech?"

            Example and Context please. Or is this just made up too

            "Now he's reverantly quoting the Bible and praying."

            Pres. Obama his used the bible as a source for quotes for as long as I can remember.

            "It's just a little hard to swallow. "

            I leave this one alone.
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            • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 6:36 pm ET)
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              President Obama is a Christian. He has always claimed to be a Christian, and I see no evidence otherwise. Paid political hacks finding suspicious looking symbols when they squint at campaign logos does not constitute proof to the contrary.
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              • Author by Arturus (January 13, 2011 7:54 pm ET)
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                Didn't Jesus say, "pick up your cross and follow me"? Wasn't He about individual salvation? Believe on me and YOU shall be saved? Hasn't Obama numerous times stated he believes in collective salvation? (easily googled) The question becomes, Is Christianity how Christ defines it, or how Obama defines it? Who is more able to judge which is the true Christianity? Individual (I alone am responsible for my salvation) and collective salvation (I must save you to be saved myself) are mutually exclusive. If you choose Christ's definition of individual salvation, that makes the opposite position(they can't both be correct) the apostate religion.
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                • Author by mjlilgui (January 14, 2011 1:27 pm ET)
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                  Oh, get off that egg you're trying to hatch. I know all too many Christians who believe they have to save non-believers. You're being disingenuous.
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                • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 4:57 pm ET)
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                  So, arturus, which of the many sects of Christianity do you follow, and why do you think yours is more valid than another?

                  Follow that up with why you think Christianity is any more valid than other, far older religions?
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                  • Author by chuckie (January 15, 2011 3:10 am ET)
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                    Sorry, I had to give you a thumbs down.

                    Please don't encourage arturus to post. I like a good debate, but that ain't gonna happen with anything arturus has to say.

                    You've asked reasonable questions, but you won't get reaonable answers.
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                    • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 9:12 am ET)
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                      Uh, scroll around and see some of my "debates" with project21reps. He has yet to post anything that wasn't either a total plagiarism job or so full of misspellings as to be almost unreadable. And in either case, he is completely unreasoned. Doesn't stop me.
                      At some point, one of these morons will see the light.
                      Although, projaculator seems to have ended any hope I might have ever had for him. I have a difficult time understanding how I can point out something he said and yet he still says "I didn't say that".
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                  • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 9:35 am ET)
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                    <crickets>
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                    • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 3:54 pm ET)
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                      Yeah, I didn't really expect an answer. Funny how often folks will say something totally indefensible and then just pretend like it never happened.
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            • Author by dazednamused (January 13, 2011 9:56 pm ET)
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              Bit off-topic here, but anyone who mocks a barbaric, backwards and contradictory text like the bible gets my vote any time.
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              • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 10:28 pm ET)
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                I gave a thumbs up to that, and I'm proud of it. Anyone who has a problem with it is welcome to come talk to me personally about it.
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                • Author by dazednamused (January 13, 2011 10:36 pm ET)
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                  LOL ... How Christian of you (snark)
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                  • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 11:12 pm ET)
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                    How very insulting of you. :)

                    Jon Stewart, talking about Britt Hume's analysis of the Native American benediction at the Tucson memorial:

                    "We like our benedictions like we like our coffee...

                    CHRISTIAN!"
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (January 13, 2011 3:22 pm ET)
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            THEY have no problem with the color of his skin

            Do we really need to post the teabagger signs again?

            Have you heard of the birthers?

            Remember, most Republicans aren't racists, but most racists are Republicans.

            But to answer your questions:
            1. Yes, I remember the campaign promises. And if you believe all campaign promises or even a majority of them are kept, you're incredibly naive.
            2. Transparency? Not sure what you mean by that.
            3. Bills online - Obama's not in congress.
            4. Abortions aren't being paid for with public funds even though they should be.
            5. No, Obama didn't mock the bible.
            6. Yes, he does pray. He's a Christian.

            You really need to try harder.
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            • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 4:30 pm ET)
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              I have to disagree with 4. Public funding for abortions is and has been illegal for quite some time, except possibly in the case of rape and/or incest. I am not sure about the exception, that may not be legal to pay for with public funds either.

              Frankly I don't believe that public funds or insurance should pay for any elective abortion, period. In cases of rape or incest, or if the mother's life will be put in danger, then I think that insurance should have to pay for the abortion.

              I do, however, think that if a woman wants one and has the money, unless I helped make that fetus, it is none of my business.

              And even if I did help make that fetus, I can still only hold an advisory position, as I am not going to be the one to have to carry around what amounts to a parasite for nine months.
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              • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 6:39 pm ET)
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                Come on now, that last line was over the top. Let's leave that kind of language to the conservatives when they describe immigrants and poor people.
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                • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 10:30 pm ET)
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                  Whatever, I have a beautiful 5-year-old daughter, conceived because of a latex malfunction. Come up with a better definition of what she was for 9 months after that Durex broke.
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                  • Author by CoolSlaw (January 14, 2011 9:19 am ET)
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                    You're welcome to call it what you like, but I'm thinking in scientific terms being the fact and science based liberal that I am.
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                    • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 4:59 pm ET)
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                      I was actually being a bit snarky about the parasite comment (but only a little). The rest, however, I completely stand by.
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                • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 10:04 am ET)
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                  Just for the record, I don't do thumbs, either up or down, without claiming it, owning it, and explaining it. Whoever gave slaw one should have the stones to do the same.
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                  • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 1:48 pm ET)
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                    Oh look, the gutless coward gave me one too. Presumably for pointing out his cowardice. I suppose that would make me a coward, right? WOOT.
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              • Author by siam (January 15, 2011 1:39 am ET)
                   
                And I have to disagree with you on 4. No pregnancy carries zero risk to the woman of death or serious, non-fatal health impairment, and in extremely few pregnancies is continuation of the pregnancy a certain death sentence. In addition, the decision to terminate a pregnancy established by rape or incest is no less a choice than is any other abortion decision, the termination no less an "elective abortion" than is any other intentionally induced abortion.
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          • Author by Truth,please (January 14, 2011 12:10 pm ET)
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            Actually the bit that's "hard to swallow" is in your first sentence.
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      • Author by seahawks123 (January 13, 2011 2:06 pm ET)
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        I wonder if that call for unity will be heeded by you libs here at MMFA.
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        • Author by br.switzer7337 (January 13, 2011 2:49 pm ET)
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          Yea, how dare MMFA tape what people say, and provide transcripts of their exact words. Who do they think they are? It is vile and uncivil.
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 7:24 pm ET)
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          I wonder if that call for unity will be heeded by you libs here at MMFA.


          *rolls eyes*

          Reminds me of Dom Irrera's comedy bit about people who say "but I mean that in a good way" and "no offense, but..."

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        • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 3:13 pm ET)
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          "I wonder if that call for unity will be heeded by you libs here at MMFA."

          so if we offer you our hand in friendship will you accept it or chop it off.
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      • Author by mfasta (January 13, 2011 2:34 pm ET)
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        "They" differ from you in political opinions, but "they" and their "puny" brains recognize your hateful vitreol as such.
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 4:42 pm ET)
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          Really? Can you? Can you reference some? Or do you just have Glenn Beck's word for it? Is pointing out hateful rhetoric counted as hateful rhetoric?
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 4:43 pm ET)
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          Oh, I get it. Us being disgusted with hateful rhetoric and the spewers of it is hateful. That's what Simple Sarah said, anyway. I believe that the rest of the Republican media arm followed suit.
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          • Author by raddave43 (January 14, 2011 12:12 pm ET)
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            Well, it's kinda like the real racists are the ones who call others out for being racist.
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        • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 13, 2011 4:51 pm ET)
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          I can spell vitriol correctly, plus, my computer has spell-check.

          I'd be very careful before I insulted someone else's brain, especially if I couldn't form one sentence that isn't based on a rw talking point.
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 1:10 pm ET)
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          I see that, like any other time anyone has asked anyone to reference hateful vitriol (note the spelling please), you have yet to come up with any examples. Especially helpful to your cause would be someone with a national stage daily spewing demonization of the right, painting the right as insurrectionists out to take away everything that we have worked for, vampires sucking the blood out of the county. Something comparable to that would help your credibility a lot.
          Maybe if you could find someone with a national stage daily comparing a Republican leader to Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Marx, or any other historical bad guy we have all been conditioned to hate.
          I realize that it has only been something like 19 hours since I originally asked you to reference something like that, but really, you don't have to list them all, just list a few. I know that the overwhelming plethora of examples just has to be making it hard for you to cut and paste it all. Go easy on yourself, just pick three people comparable in audience to Limbaugh, Beck, and Fox, and give a few examples of their daily spew, with links so that we can check them out on our own. Like MMFA does.
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        • Author by dommanno3075 (January 14, 2011 2:45 pm ET)
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          "they" and their "puny" brains recognize your hateful vitreol
          As long as you keep misspelling words, we're going to keep thinking your "brains" are puny.
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    • Author by nerzog (January 13, 2011 12:55 pm ET)
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      I think we all saw this coming, though the less cynical among us may have hoped the Troglodytes would at least wait 24 hours before cranking up their Bullsh*t Machine.
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      • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 10:33 pm ET)
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        Not me. I called it that they would attack before he even got there. I missed on that. But not by much, it appears.
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    • Author by Leftym0m79 (January 13, 2011 12:57 pm ET)
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      And with all due respect to Congressman Wasserman-Schultz, I don't know what planet she was on because you could see it, you could hear it.


      Oh Michelle, Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has more understanding and integrity in her pinky toe than you and all your co-horts combined and squared.
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      • Author by wesley_fpt (January 13, 2011 2:27 pm ET)
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        Isn't it insane that they actually let that thing talk? This is a woman who tried to boycott Dunkin Donuts because she thought Rachel Ray's scarf looked arabic. lol what a joke.
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (January 13, 2011 12:59 pm ET)
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      And one more think,wanna talk about hypocritical, I remember a President standing on the charred remains of a building complex (literally standing on corpses yet to be unearthed) Shouting through a bullhorn "I hear you, the rest of the world hears you, and the people who knocked this building down will hear from all of us soon"

      pep-rally much
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      • Author by FnDan (January 13, 2011 1:18 pm ET)
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        Great point.

        And there is something I would like to say about Michelle Malkin right now, but in deferance to Obama's request for more civility in the discourse, I will refrain. (Hint: it rhymes with hunt)
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 6:45 pm ET)
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          I'll be brave and say it, I'm ashamed of her latest media "stunt"!
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          • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 10:34 pm ET)
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            Notice how, when she stands next to guys, she looks like a runt?
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            • Author by Truth,please (January 14, 2011 12:19 pm ET)
                 
              You guys are cracking me up! There's another poster elswehere who uses the term 'cupid stunt'. Maybe that's not very PC, but it's funny.
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            • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 9:40 am ET)
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              Or, when she swings for the fences, but only hits a bunt?
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      • Author by liberalXtian (January 13, 2011 2:00 pm ET)
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        I remember a President standing on the charred remains of a building complex (literally standing on corpses yet to be unearthed) Shouting through a bullhorn...




        He was a cheerleader in college. Really prepares you for the presidency.
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 4:45 pm ET)
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          GIMME A "W"!

          GIMME AN "A"

          GIMME AN "R"

          WHAT DOES IT SPELL?

          PROFIT!
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          • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 3:56 pm ET)
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            "War" starts with "W". How come that isn't a bumper sticker?
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    • Author by Grimdogg (January 13, 2011 1:01 pm ET)
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      Hey Faux Nation. My family heritage is majority German, and the rest is a mixture of Italian, Welsh, Scottish, and Irish. And we party like SOB's at a funeral/wake. Why? Because you should celebrate someone's life and what they've given all of us, not mourn what you've lost. So I can appreciate the atmosphere yesterday because I'm sure it helped lift up peoples's spirits that were hurting.
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      • Author by seahawks123 (January 13, 2011 2:08 pm ET)
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        I wonder if you fundraise or campaign at your funerals/wakes like the libs do.
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        • Author by wesley_fpt (January 13, 2011 2:41 pm ET)
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          Like the tea party did right after the shooting, crying about catching flack for violent rhetoric? Boo-hoo..they're picking on us..give us money!

          It's pretty low to insult a memorial service as being partisan after a national tragedy. It was nice to see Barack Obama, Jan Brewer, John McCain, and John Kyl, among others, set aside politics and come together for a common purpose. I wish Boehner had been there too..he gave a very warm speech yesterday. Too bad some of you souless opportunists are using this occasion to attack YOUR president.
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        • Author by n'est-ce pas (January 13, 2011 2:59 pm ET)
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          Oh, you're such a dick. Sanders should retract the letter. But I don't see you criticizing the [http://news.yahoo.com/s/dailycaller/20110110/pl_dailycaller/teapartyexpresssendsoutfundraisingletterinreactiontoaftermathofarizonashooting] At least Sanders told the truth when he sent out his letter.
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          • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 10:36 pm ET)
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            Well. He isn't going to criticize the Tea party folks. They are REAL Americans.
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        • Author by GPFandango (January 13, 2011 4:15 pm ET)
             
          Please show me a link to a fundraising at the memorial. You might be thinking of the GOP Fundraiser Speaker Boehner chose to attend rather than accept the presidents invitation to ride in Air Force one with him to the memorial.
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 6:48 pm ET)
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          I wonder if you fundraise or campaign at your funerals/wakes like the libs do.


          Fundraise? ...Show me the money!

          Campaign? ....I guess you skipped past the part where the t-shirts and so forth were all done by students and approved by the college.

          But hey, never let a chance to smear and lie go unexploited.
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      • Author by inzanus (January 13, 2011 3:02 pm ET)
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        Grimdogg, I'm Pakistani, and we do the same thing. Better to party in the name of a loved one than to cry endlessly. What will crying solve?
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 4:47 pm ET)
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          You would have to ask Glenn Beck or John Boehner. Both of them seem to think it is great.
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        • Author by Truth,please (January 14, 2011 12:29 pm ET)
             
          Different cultures have different traditions, and these hard line people with the blinders on don't acknowledge different cultures in America anymore. We used to celebrate being a 'melting pot'--the term I was taught in grammar school, but now......
          We're a blended society, like it or not, and we could actually learn something from each other's traditions and beliefs while staying true to our own. Good grief, this is a huge nation. Intolerance is divisive.
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      • Author by marionetta (January 13, 2011 3:38 pm ET)
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        Ukrainian. We do the same thing.

        It doesn't matter what the pundits think. What matters is what the families thought of it.
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    • Author by David2012 (January 13, 2011 1:02 pm ET)
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      There is something seriously amiss with the wiring inside Michelle Malkin's brain. How does she manage constantly to say hateful, semi-hysterical things?

      I honestly cannot imagine.
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      • Author by seahawks123 (January 13, 2011 2:09 pm ET)
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        I wonder if you will say the same thing about the libs that post here.
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 4:49 pm ET)
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          Can you give an example of anything hateful that the libs have said about the memorial or any of the people it was for?

          How about when that dirty lib said something about the "snuffed out little girl"?
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          • Author by seahawks123 (January 13, 2011 5:18 pm ET)
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            I can give you plenty of hateful things that are said about any conservative everyday here on MMFA.
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            • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 5:22 pm ET)
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              You keep saying that, yet you never give. Stingy b@st@rd.
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              • Author by Fox News - Nothing But Truth (January 13, 2011 8:49 pm ET)
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                Stingy b@st@rd.


                That was hateful.
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                • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 1:13 pm ET)
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                  Oh, I get it now. That is the kind of thing you guys mean when you say "both sides do it". Because calling someone a stingy b@st@rd is exactly like accusing an entire group of people of planning a revolution.
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                • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 10:18 am ET)
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                  That was hateful.
                  Truthful, though.
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            • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 6:52 pm ET)
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              I can give you plenty of hateful things that are said about any conservative everyday here on MMFA.


              First off, that isn't what was asked for, way to switch it up and move the goalposts. You can't honestly answer the question without an admission that you were wrong of course.

              Secondly, for every liberal using mean spirited attacks, I'll show you just as many mean spirited right wing posts...and this web site's audience is overwhelmingly liberal.

              You lost this one, seahawks123, no one bought your false equivalence.
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            • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 8:25 pm ET)
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              Yeah, I thought so. Since you can't give me any examples of a liberal saying something hateful about the memorial or any of the people it was for, let me give you something hateful about a neocon, yourself.

              You are just as vile as the dungheaps you parrot, you don't have anything remotely relevant to contribute to ANY conversation, and you are a waste of good air. Every time you have "added to the discourse" it has been witn unproven slurs and "I know you are but what am I" Peewee Herman-esque rejoinders that prove that you don't have an intellectual cell in your body. The allegations that you can find your own @$$ to wipe it are unfounded, and the consanguineal relationship of your parents is almost a given.
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            • Author by dommanno3075 (January 14, 2011 2:53 pm ET)
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              I can give you plenty of hateful things that are said about any conservative everyday here on MMFA.
              “I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell.” (Harry S Truman)
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          • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 3:25 pm ET)
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            "How about when that dirty lib said something about the "snuffed out little girl"?"

            Lush Limpballs is a dirty lib? he is the one who said that, after all.
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            • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 4:00 pm ET)
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              Oh, my bad. That was all I had for vitriol from the left, and it turns out that it was from the right. How could I have missed that?

              I notice that none of the trolls caught that.
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      • Author by villabolo (January 13, 2011 2:30 pm ET)
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        There is something seriously amiss with the wiring inside Michelle Malkin's brain. How does she manage constantly to say hateful, semi-hysterical things?

        I honestly cannot imagine.


        Do some research on psychopaths. They do have different wiring in their brains as shown by MRI brain scans. Seriously.
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      • Author by outsiderdude (January 13, 2011 3:44 pm ET)
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        How does she manage constantly to say hateful, semi-hysterical things?

        she gets paid for it
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    • Author by ScienceBuff (January 13, 2011 1:06 pm ET)
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      There is only one form of content for Obama's address that those clowns would have found acceptable.

      "I'm using this opportunity to announce that I and Vice-President Biden will be resigning our offices and that Weeper, er, um, Speaker of the House Boehner will assume the office of President effective tomorrow."

      I take that back. They'd still find a way to criticize him for that.
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      • Author by neon desert (January 13, 2011 1:17 pm ET)
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        Just out of curiosity, has Obama performed one, single, solitary function for which the right hasn't criticized him? Just one?

        Resident righties, can you name one?

        ....crickets....

        It's just amazing that a man who could gain the office of the President of the United States hasn't been able to do ANYTHING right. But, then again, this is a country that RE-elected George Bush, so...
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        • Author by seahawks123 (January 13, 2011 2:10 pm ET)
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          I guess he does throw good parties.... A lot of them too.
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          • Author by neon desert (January 13, 2011 3:07 pm ET)
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            So I guess your answer is "no, I can't come up with a single thing Obama's done right".

            Don't you look at yourself and wonder if you're on the right track when you're thinking that way?

            Gee, that question looks even dumber in print...
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            • Author by mary59 (January 13, 2011 7:31 pm ET)
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              I'm glad you asked it, though.

              Self reflection is a quality which has to be developed during tragedy. It's so appallingly lacking amongst so many of these folk.
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          • Author by Leftym0m79 (January 13, 2011 8:43 pm ET)
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            And where was Boehner during the memorial?
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            • Author by neon desert (January 13, 2011 11:30 pm ET)
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              Actually, I think if us liberals are smart and as fair as we claim to be, we'll have to give Bohner a pass on that one.

              Here's the reason...

              I would hope that we can always be regarded as considering ALL the facts to form our opinions. And I think us liberals have a preponderance of the facts on our side - we don't need to make the mistake of ignoring the ones that aren't.
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              • Author by wesley_fpt (January 14, 2011 1:01 am ET)
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                I can't slam Boehner for missing it. All things considered he showed a lot of class this week, and like I said, his speech was very warm and sincere.
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        • Author by dazednamused (January 13, 2011 10:12 pm ET)
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          Can't "re-elect" someone who was appointed
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 6:55 pm ET)
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        There is only one form of content for Obama's address that those clowns would have found acceptable.

        "I'm using this opportunity to announce that I and Vice-President Biden will be resigning our offices and that Weeper, er, um, Speaker of the House Boehner will assume the office of President effective tomorrow."

        I take that back. They'd still find a way to criticize him for that.


        Malkin would complain about the timing, she feels he should have done that on November 4th of 2009.
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    • Author by seahawks123 (January 13, 2011 2:03 pm ET)
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      Paul Wellstone would be proud.
      Next time I am at a memorial I think that I will invite the Anointed One Obama, he's just the thing to liven up the place.
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      • Author by foghornleghorn (January 13, 2011 2:15 pm ET)
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        Anointed One

        Drink!!!
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        • Author by seahawks123 (January 13, 2011 2:20 pm ET)
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          That is ok, I don't drink from the Obama Kool-Aid.
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          • Author by foghornleghorn (January 13, 2011 2:37 pm ET)
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            Serious question, seahawks - do you understand what it means when we say "Drink!!" to you?
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          • Author by dommanno3075 (January 14, 2011 3:06 pm ET)
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            I don't drink from the Obama Kool-Aid.
            You drink New & Improved Wingnut Flavor Aid - "Now with more bile!"
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        • Author by wesley_fpt (January 13, 2011 2:47 pm ET)
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          Anointed..lol try ELECTED. What's that even mean? Some people can't resist mimicking Sean Hannity.
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          • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 6:58 pm ET)
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            It's due to the fact that right wingers are authoritarians and look to their leaders for all the answers and to do all their thinking for them. They then project their own inadequacy on us liberals, regardless of how almost all of the REASONABLE criticism of President Obama (IE: not birth certificate and secret communist conspiracy childishness) has come from the political left.
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      • Author by jbrantow (January 13, 2011 2:44 pm ET)
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        how cute...the zealot memorized his bagger talking points.
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    • Author by wesley_fpt (January 13, 2011 2:16 pm ET)
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      I'm not a bit suprised, but attacking the memorial service is still pathetic. How can anyone take anything Michelle Malkin says seriously? She things internment camps are a great idea and tried to boycott Dunkin Donuts because she thought Rachel Ray's scarf looked arabic. She belongs in the far, far reaches of right wing talk radio and the internet, not on TV. Thanks Fox.
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    • Author by voltaire (January 13, 2011 2:33 pm ET)
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      He should have just worn his vacation gear and flip-flops. That way, he would give the right something to criticize since they were going to pick on something inane anyway.
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    • Author by jbrantow (January 13, 2011 2:42 pm ET)
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      anchor baby malkin needs to climb back under the rock she was hatched under.
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    • Author by meroguero (January 13, 2011 2:54 pm ET)
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      Of course no mention about Speaker Boehner's commitment to his DC cocktail fundraiser that took precedence over a somber observance of this memorial. Way to go "fair and balanced"
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    • Author by draftedin68 (January 13, 2011 3:02 pm ET)
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      Dirty-otis-filareemey-frackin-backers!

      I find it somewhat ironic that, while MMFA does their consistently superb job documenting the putridness from these bile-spewing hate mongers, they won't allow us use the adjectives, nouns, etc., that most accurately describe them.

      Oh well, I guess I'll just have to wait until The Glenn Beck Factfromassing Gospel Hour comes on so I can hone my cursing skills.

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      • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 8:30 pm ET)
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        I dunno, I kinda like that one. I wish I had scrolled down this far before I responded to squawks' lack of examples of liberals mocking the memorial service.
        [b]
        Dirty-otis-filareemey-frackin-backers![/b]

        I like it. :)
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    • Author by cornelison (January 13, 2011 3:31 pm ET)
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      Fox writers are so prolific at inventing stories that they must have written soap operas in the past.
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    • Author by Nasty Liberal (January 13, 2011 3:32 pm ET)
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      I recall the buffoons like these lambasting President Clinton for sharing a laugh with a fellow mourner at the funeral of Commerce Secretary Ron Brown.

      I can't say whether these folk are human, or not... but they sure aren't Irish.
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      • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 4:53 pm ET)
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        Unfortunately for our collective reputation around the world, they are Americans. Which is more than they will call us.
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    • Author by Bill Wilson (January 13, 2011 3:34 pm ET)
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      So I'm as liberal as they come, but you do have to admit that the cheering was inappropriate IF THIS WAS INTENDED AS A MEMORIAL SERVICE. Which it was described as I believe. Not that the President can control the crowd per se. That being said, here's where MM is misdirecting its focus: the problem with the right-wing attacks is that mere days after it's been illuminated that divisiveness for the sake of divisiveness is ruining this country the right-wingers take to the air in an attack-style presentation critiquing a god-xxxed speech. Perhaps Malkin could've said: "You know, it was a bit too pep-rally'ish but I'm not here to attack the President." That could be classy... but she simply can't do it.

      Only liberals -- generally -- are reflective and stand-up like that. (Like when Olbermann had the class to drop the worst person segment). You think Palin would ever release a video
      saying: "You know what, I didn't cause that attack but I guess some of the rhetoric could have been more thoughtful." NEVER.
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      • Author by mary59 (January 13, 2011 7:37 pm ET)
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        I disagree that the cheering was inappropriate. I've seen enough gloomy memorial services and they are inappropriate. By the way, I like the trend of having some laughter at the celebration of life services now, as well as tears of release.

        Gloom is NOT healing and as said below, one should feel better for attending, not worse.
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    • Author by Bill Wilson (January 13, 2011 3:35 pm ET)
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      So I'm as liberal as they come, but you do have to admit that the cheering was inappropriate IF THIS WAS INTENDED AS A MEMORIAL SERVICE. Which it was described as I believe. Not that the President can control the crowd per se. That being said, here's where MM is misdirecting its focus: the problem with the right-wing attacks is that mere days after it's been illuminated that divisiveness for the sake of divisiveness is ruining this country the right-wingers take to the air in an attack-style presentation critiquing a god-xxxed speech. Perhaps Malkin could've said: "You know, it was a bit too pep-rally'ish but I'm not here to attack the President." That could be classy... but she simply can't do it.

      Only liberals -- generally -- are reflective and stand-up like that. (Like when Olbermann had the class to drop the worst person segment). You think Palin would ever release a video
      saying: "You know what, I didn't cause that attack but I guess some of the rhetoric could have been more thoughtful." NEVER.
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      • Author by marionetta (January 13, 2011 3:39 pm ET)
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        Glenn Beck liked the speech. Yes that Glenn Beck.

        Is Michelle Malkin going to attack him now?
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        • Author by akmikeus (January 13, 2011 6:57 pm ET)
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          I liked the speech too, it's just too bad that the memorial was treated like campaign rally. As they learned in Chicago, never let a good crisis go to waste. Can anybody tell me where I can buy the t-shirt that was on sale during the memorial? Must be a website link somewhere. Hopefully Acorn was there to register voters too...
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          • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 7:07 pm ET)
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            Who treated it like a campaign rally? You mention Chicago so I can only gather you mean President Obama was treating it like a campaign rally. What part of the speech was like a campaign rally? What did he say or how did THE PRESIDENT act that would lead you to imply he treated it like a campaign rally? What political apparatus was used by the President or his administration to treat this like a campaign rally?

            Perhaps you mean the students treated it like a campaign rally? Why don't you level your criticism of the event at the students and citizens of Arizona? Seems like there is NO PROOF ANYWHERE that would support your sleazy attempt to link the President to the t-shirts, or demeanor of the crowd. Easier to score cheap political points by attacking President Obama for things he is not responsible for.

            Then you bring up Acorn for good measure.

            You are a blind partisan with Obama derangement syndrome.
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            • Author by akmikeus (January 13, 2011 7:58 pm ET)
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              All I wanted was the website to buy the t-shirt that was for sale! Is that sooo hard? Also, I'm already registered to vote so no need for Acorn.
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              • Author by Johaely (January 13, 2011 8:16 pm ET)
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                Keep it classy ass wipe.
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              • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 8:40 pm ET)
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                Gosh, akmik, have you ever had an original thought? Do you get all of your opinions spoon-fed to you by your leaders on the AM dial? Or do you pick some up on television as well? Does anyone you get your "information" from ever bother to tell the complete story? Or do you prefer to get your "news" from folks who will cut it up and present it to you in the form most likely to anger you at someone in particular?
                I wonder if you ever had the intellectual curiosity to check out those "pimp videos" that Fox used to smear ACORN. I wonder if you ever had the integrity to check out the entire "God d@mn America" sermon that the right used to vilify the Revrend Wright, and learn that it wasn't what they told you it was.

                Actually, I don't wonder any of this. You see, I know, from the idiotic parroting that you have used in your posts that you neither have any integrity nor intellect to fuel curiosity.

                And yes, I am, in fact, an educated elitist. I much prefer that moniker over nescient boor, which would accurately describe such as yourself.
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              • Author by dazednamused (January 13, 2011 10:17 pm ET)
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                Someone said ACORN, but I've already had too much to drink by the time I got this far down in the thread (hiccup!)
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              • Author by CoolSlaw (January 14, 2011 9:26 am ET)
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                All I wanted was the website to buy the t-shirt that was for sale! Is that sooo hard? Also, I'm already registered to vote so no need for Acorn.


                Yeah right, you got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell me too? No need to admit that I tore your little smug, false talking point laden post apart. I'll take your smug little response as a concession...I'm not sure if that's how they do it in Chicago or anything.
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                • Author by akmikeus (January 14, 2011 1:13 pm ET)
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                  The only thing that probably got tore was your panties after they got in a wad with your squirming. Too funny.
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              • Author by dommanno3075 (January 14, 2011 7:38 pm ET)
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                so no need for Acorn
                And in the Beating a Dead Horse Department...

                I guess it's true - elephants never do forget.
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            • Author by johnbrown (January 13, 2011 8:21 pm ET)
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              Maybe the students were cheering because in Arizona it's a rarity seeing him in person since the state is so Republican.Its sad it took a tragedy like this for him to be welcomed in the state.Noticed he got more cheers than Brewer.
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          • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (January 14, 2011 5:30 am ET)
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            Can anybody tell me where I can buy the t-shirt that was on sale during the memorial?

            It's funny, the woman who was shot 3 times protecting her daughter found the entitre event inspiring. And others who were there, people who lived through the shooting, family members of the dead and wounded, had no problem with the event.

            But you nuts on the right can't seem to let ANY, and I do mean ANY event that President Obama is involved in go without some asinine complaint or comment.

            I know we're suppose to work on being civil, but I'll start tomorrow. I've had enough of trying to reason with unreasonable, dumba** nuts! Today, fat a** Limbo, Glenda the snake oil salesman and all you other righ-wing nuts, go sit on a stick and twirl!

            Did the White House "brand" the Arizona memorial service with a logo and slogan?...

            The burden of proof is on Malkin and she has failed to prove any White House involvement. She may believe she sees the handiwork of the White House at play, but there's no evidence to back that up. Certainly not enough to justify her claim the White House used the shooting tragedy as an opportunity to orchestrate a "branded" political event. We rate Malkin's claim False.

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            "The name of the event and the logo for the event were done entirely by the university," said Johnny Cruz, a spokesman for the University of Arizona. "Branding of the event was not done in consultation with the White House, or any elected officials or political organization."

            The T-shirts were also the university's doing, Cruz said.

            "That was the university's idea," he said. "We wanted to give people something to remember, to symbolize the community spirit."

            The university bought the shirts without the use of taxpayer dollars, although he wasn't sure if the cost was borne by donations.

            "Almost everything was done by the university," Cruz said, including selection of the location for the event and planning the agenda. Once the president accepted an invitation, he said, the White House helped coordinate some logistics, such as security, but that was the extent of the White House involvement.

            And "Together We Thrive" was conceived by a University of Arizona student, he said.


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          • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 3:41 pm ET)
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            "I liked the speech too, it's just too bad that the memorial was treated like campaign rally. As they learned in Chicago, never let a good crisis go to waste. Can anybody tell me where I can buy the t-shirt that was on sale during the memorial? Must be a website link somewhere. Hopefully Acorn was there to register voters too... "


            the t-shirts were the idea of a student, paid for by the college. they were not sold, they were gifts to thoses who attended the memorial... do try to keep up.
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      • Author by seahawks123 (January 13, 2011 5:25 pm ET)
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        Huh, would you see tact like that coming out of Joy Behar, Rosie O'Donnel, and many others? I know, you will defend or excuse them but they reflect a lot of the hate that comes from the left. I would bet you that all of the death threats that Palin is getting are from libs don't you think? Why does someone like Obama say that that is inappropriate? Where are all of the calls denouncing those?......crickets.
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 7:14 pm ET)
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          Maybe you let Chuck Norris or Victoria Jackson define your political beliefs, but I don't feel the need to defend celebrities who may or may not happen to share some of my political beliefs.

          Although, I have heard Joy Behar do political commentary, found her to be fairly entertaining in that regard. I'm not really a big fan of her comedy.

          Rosie O'donell I always found to be kind of annoying in general, not really a fan.

          Try Rachel Maddow, Matt Taibbi, or Jon Stewart for more relevance.
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 9:16 pm ET)
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          LOL maybe someone should have told Simple Sarah that plssing off the Jews wasn't a particularly good idea, you think?
          Frankly, most liberals are peaceniks, and wouldn't bother with death threats.

          I have to tell you though, the only one drumming up hatred for Sarah Palin is Sarah Palin. Her use of a highly offensive term to Jews in the wake of the attempted assassination of a Jew wasn't exactly bright. Now we all know that Simple Sarah is about as bright as a bag of broken light bulbs, but she has handlers who should have warned her about that.

          I don't watch those folks you accuse of lacking tact (which is a hoot coming from such as yourself), should I assume that those folks called for violent revolution? Did they demonize Sarah? Did they say that she was un-American and was trying to bring down the country?

          Because, let me tell you, one thing that IS plssing me off is all of your "real" American right wing pusbags intimating that I am not an American simply because I think that people should be paid decently for a job well done; because I think that no American should suffer and even die simply because he can't afford treatment for his ills; because I don't believe that someone making 20 million a year should be able to skate on his taxes while someone earning 20 grand can't even afford to save a dime. I am tired of being called un-American because I think that everyone, regardless of skin color, sexual preference, gender, or religion should be treated with dignity and respect unless the INDIVIDUAL loses that right; or because I think that people should no more be allowed to paint their political rivals as socialists, nazis, Hitler, or anything else designed to foment hatred and fear than they should be allowed to shout "fire" in a crowded theater. In other words, you can do it, but it had better be real. I am tired of being called a terrorist sympathiser because I think that waterboarding is torture, and because I didn't agree with Bush on attacking a country that did nothing to us.
          I am tired of being accused of wanting to destroy the country I love, and I am tired of high profile celebrity politicians and daily talk show hosts with national audiences painting me as un-American because I don't happen to agree with them on a few issues.

          You ask yourself, who is more of an American? A talk show host who never served, a talk show host who managed to avoid serving because he had a pimple on his @$$, or a decorated veteran with 12 years of service to his country?
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          • Author by dazednamused (January 13, 2011 10:28 pm ET)
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            The last of the three ... and if that's you, I offer a viral handshake and a pint of lager on me. Cheers!
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            • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 11:31 pm ET)
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              Thank you. Though, it couldn't be me, I am a liberal leaning independent. No such thing as a liberal "real" American.
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    • Author by doughpro1604643 (January 13, 2011 4:23 pm ET)
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      A missed opportunity on BO's part. Too bad those in attendance were probably there only to see the prez and cheer him on, and not to pay respect for the dead.
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      • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 4:56 pm ET)
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        Wow, you should get a job in Vegas, with those mind reading skills.

        PEOPLE WERE KILLED BY AN ANTI-GOVERNMENT WHACKO shut the eff up, you useless piece of CR@P.
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        • Author by doughpro1604643 (January 14, 2011 8:43 am ET)
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          PEOPLE WERE KILLED BY AN ANTI-GOVERNMENT WHACKO shut the eff up, you useless piece of CR@P.

          What does that comment have to do with the one that I made about the speech?
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          • Author by JoeSixpack (January 14, 2011 10:02 am ET)
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            Are you really complaining about his response to your substance-free comment? It was nothing more that your typical, refelxive anti-0bama nonsense. You claim Obama missed an opportunity, but you don't say how or why, and yet you expect a more substantial reply? That's like showing up to a potluck empty-handed, and then yelling "FEED ME!!!!" Try actually making your case sometime.
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            • Author by doughpro1604643 (January 14, 2011 10:43 am ET)
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              I thought it was a truly inspiring speech. I meant that he missed an opportunity to command a crowd whose behavior took away from his speech. A more somber crowd for the somber occasion that it was would have made his words much more powerful.
              The only criticism I have is the mention of "uncivility" and I thought it was a little too long.
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              • Author by mary59 (January 14, 2011 11:36 am ET)
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                Really, doughie. You are really full of yourself to judge a crowd working to overcome such trauma in their midst.

                I wouldn't presume to judge how others should heal. Give it a rest and I would expect you to reflect a little on why you are pushing these theme.
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                • Author by doughpro1604643 (January 14, 2011 12:14 pm ET)
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                  Pushing what "theme"? I would suggest you listen to the (what I consider inappropriate) reactions of the people in attendance, then go screw yourself.
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                  • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 12:51 pm ET)
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                    When did you become the arbiter of how people should deal with tragedy? And how would you have reacted if the president had demanded that those folks conform to his idea of how a memorial should be? Have you ever been to a black mememorial service? An Irish one?
                    Why don't you consider that everyone deals with grief and tragedy differently, and then go screw your self.
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                    • Author by doughpro1604643 (January 14, 2011 1:23 pm ET)
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                      Yes, and I am supposed to believe that a good portion of the audience all dealt with tragedy and memorial observances in the same way, by cheering and applauding, right? Whatever.
                      In this case, the crowd could have shown BO more respect. It appears to me that they missed the whole purpose of the event.
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                      • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 2:17 pm ET)
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                        There you go with that mind reading thing again. How is that Vegas show going?

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                        • Author by doughpro1604643 (January 14, 2011 2:21 pm ET)
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                          About as well as yours, I guess. You seem to paint all conservatives with the same brush, claiming to know how they think, act, etc., all the while thinking it's okay. Who's to tell you that it's not?
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                          • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 4:14 pm ET)
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                            You all seem to give plenty of evidence that I am correct.
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                            • Author by doughpro1604643 (January 14, 2011 4:58 pm ET)
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                              Just as those in attendance at the speech gave plenty of evidence to their lack of class and good taste.
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                              • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 5:08 pm ET)
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                                Perhaps you should go there and tell the survivors and family members that their happiness with the service is unauthorized.
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                                • Author by doughpro1604643 (January 14, 2011 5:31 pm ET)
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                                  If they were happy with it, that's fine. Unlike you, I am perfectly okay with the fact that people disagree with me. Makes for an interesting world.
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                                  • Author by dommanno3075 (January 14, 2011 7:43 pm ET)
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                                    Unlike you, I am perfectly okay with the fact that people disagree with me.
                                    Yeah, riiiiiight. Suuuuuure you are. That's why you guys on the right spent all that time and effort denouncing people who didn't share your opinion on Bush's wars, because you're "perfectly okay" with dissent.
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                                    • Author by project21reps (January 15, 2011 10:07 am ET)
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                                      Dommanno: No, we don't denounce people who don't share the same opinion, we denounce you on the left who lies about what the right believes or about what the right has done. Like Bush. And You lies about the ONE war that was declared on the United States on his watch. Bush just responded to this declaration of war by the enemy. I suggest you look at the UN report on the matter and also look at the congressional record, and the 9/11 report, for further clarification.
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                                      • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 11:17 am ET)
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                                        we denounce you on the left who lies (sic) about what the right believes
                                        More illiteracy, and not a single example to back up his claim.k1dirk, you are truly a piece of...

                                        ...work.
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                                      • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 1:56 pm ET)
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                                        LIES TOLD by project21reps

                                        Shut up, liar.
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                • Author by chuckie (January 15, 2011 3:46 am ET)
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                  Mary,
                  Well said. It's interesting to see others that think they know how people should act at a memorial. Not pleasant. But interesting.
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            • Author by Chameo (January 14, 2011 1:10 pm ET)
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              More like showing up at a potluck empty-handed and then complaining about the food that everyone else brought. Nice metaphor, though.
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (January 13, 2011 4:29 pm ET)
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      It's a good thing that none of these fools have never attended a funeral at a black church. There is always lots of laughing, clapping, and even some cheering during the eulogy. Most black churches consider a funeral or memorial as a "Homegoing Celebration."

      My best friend Anne, who happens to be white, attended the funeral of one of our former students that was held at a black church. Afterwards, she called me and said that she had never attended a funeral that focused on providing solace to the family and at which people clapped, cheered, and shouted Amen! She was really impressed, and she went on to say that she wished the funerals she had attended for whites in the past had been the same way because attending them left her more depressed that she had been before the service.

      President Obama had no control over the reactions the attendees displayed in reference to parts of his speech. I read a comment today that was made by an 11 year old girl who attended the event. She said that the president's speech really helped her, and that attending had made her feel better. She went on to say that it was just what she needed.

      These rw whiners are just upset because the president went to lift the spirits of the people of AZ, and in the end he was successful. One of the first comments I read on Politicususa last night was from someone who had been to the rw blogs for information on how to respond to the speech. Evidently, she had come by to say that the speech was the first of President Obama's 2012 campaign speeches. I thank God everyday that my parents would tell me to think for myself. The pettiness of the comment showed me that no one on the right is willing to tone down the rhetoric or have empathy for the feelings of others. When President Obama spoke about the need for civility in political discussions, they just knew he couldn't have been including them.
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      • Author by CoolSlaw (January 13, 2011 7:17 pm ET)
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        Yes, the attitude of the crowd is nothing more then a desperate attempt by right wing media to spin this event into another opportunity to demonize the President. That's pretty much what the job of right wing media has been reduced to... mindlessly attack anything and everything associated with President Obama.
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 5:15 pm ET)
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          It amazes me how many of the rank and file, these guys who post here and other places, are affected by their leaders' takes on the inappropriateness of it all. Considering that since last Saturday they have all been swearing that words can't influence them, their lock-step hive-think reactions to the attendees' perceived disrespect seems to have been almost scripted.
          Since there was absolutely nothing about the president's speech or behavior to criticize, it seems almost a joke that they have ALL picked the same things to complain about. As influenced in their collective thinking as they all seem to have been by media reactions to this event, is it so wrong to believe that the previous rhetoric may have had some effect as well?
          Nah, none of them started believing and parroting the stuff they heard on Fox and the AM dial until AFTER the shooting.
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      • Author by project21reps (January 15, 2011 10:12 am ET)
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        cugagcmu805031: Your stereotyping black funerals, chief.
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    • Author by johnbrown (January 13, 2011 4:37 pm ET)
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      Has idiot Malkin ever considered that the audience has been in sorrow for five days and needed to feel uplifted from their president?The thought that the cheering was inappropriate wasn't even on my mind until I listened to David Gergen complain on CNN.Then I switched to Fox News and obviously they turned it into a GOP talking point.I saw nothing wrong with it .The same thing happened at Paul Wellstone's funeral service years ago and the right wing said the same thing.Obama's speech about unity was great and its just hateful jealous people like Malkin and any Fox personality won't give our president credit for anything. I guess when Obama told the audience Congresswoman Giffords eyes opened Malkin thinks the audience should have sat on their hands.Mean Mean Woman.
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      • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 9:22 pm ET)
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        Has idiot Malkin ever considered...
        ...anything that didn't directly affect her or her paycheck? Nope, probably not.
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    • Author by dhertzfe (January 13, 2011 5:38 pm ET)
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      Get the GOPers out of my grief. It's bad enough they contribute to my grief. Now they are going to tell my how to grieve? KMA!
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    • Author by Aries411 (January 13, 2011 5:40 pm ET)
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      We didn't expect anything different from these vile unamerican prix did we? They hate.. HATE Obama. They have nothing but disdain for him. They consider Dems and liberals the enemy of the state...

      Within minutes after the speech the hate was FLYING all over thedailybeast.com and mediaite.com .. I expected as much. It's kind of like the shooting.. not a matter of "if" but "when".

      they are vile creatures that deserve to be spit upon.
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      • Author by akmikeus (January 13, 2011 8:08 pm ET)
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        Well nobody will be able to argue with all the love coming from your blog.

        And it's not the Dems or Libs that American people have a problems with, it's the people in O's administration who were a part of the Weather Underground, self proclaimed Socialists, Communists and of course a lot of people who have never run nothing in their life except for maybe final exams. At least O had the sense to run Van Jones out of Washington in the middle of the night.
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        • Author by Johaely (January 13, 2011 8:25 pm ET)
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          it's the people in O's administration who were a part of the Weather Underground, self proclaimed Socialists, Communists and of course a lot of people who have never run nothing in their life except for maybe final exams.


          So the american people, who somehow don't include liberals or democrats, have a problem with no one?

          At least O had the sense to run Van Jones out of Washington in the middle of the night.


          Van Jones himself quit to avoid giving to much negative attention to Obama. In other words, he was run out of Washington by Beck, not Obama.
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          • Author by akmikeus (January 13, 2011 8:28 pm ET)
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            Well then we all owe Beck a BIG thank you then don't we?
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            • Author by Johaely (January 13, 2011 8:39 pm ET)
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              No. Beck attacked Van Jones because he is a sociopath and does not accept the fact that a group, to which Van Jones was co-founder, had the gall of boycotting him for calling the president a racist.
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              • Author by akmikeus (January 13, 2011 9:28 pm ET)
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                So Van Jones wants green energy especially for the Black Panthers and of course we all know how well this policy has worked out for Spain, in debt, 20% unemployment, but hey, they have a lot of pretty windmills.

                Of course VJ is still calling for the Bottom Up, Top Down and Inside Out, which is insane, because knowing my proud fellow Americans, it will be Bottom Up, Middle Puts Down Bottom and Top is Irrelevant.

                Nothing but the truth here.
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                • Author by Johaely (January 13, 2011 9:37 pm ET)
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                  So Van Jones wants green energy especially for the Black Panthers and of course we all know how well this policy has worked out for Spain, in debt, 20% unemployment, but hey, they have a lot of pretty windmills.


                  this is the most stupid, string of barely connected thoughts i have read in a while. Telling you that correlation does not cause causation would imply that you think logically. And what is with the Black Panthers (a group which has been defunct since the 70s) have to do with energy policy?
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                • Author by vetecs (January 14, 2011 1:57 am ET)
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                  "because knowing my proud fellow Americans, it will be Bottom Up, Middle Puts Down Bottom and Top is Irrelevant. akmikeus.....

                  Lol... Middle puts down bottom, how far in hell is that?
                  America here is the Obamaphobia clearly, this is the so-call cry "I want my country back".... No need to fear the black man, "revenge is not apart of our plan we only come to heal the broken mends" (Midnite)
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                • Author by Truth,please (January 14, 2011 1:27 pm ET)
                     
                  Here we go with the Black Panthers scare tactic. Come out of the 70s! The Black Panthers are no more. They are part of our political history, regardless of what Fox news keeps telling you. They aren't lurking around the White House, or scaring old folks. The only people scaring the old folks are on cable "news".
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 9:30 pm ET)
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          And it's not the Dems or Libs that American people have a problems with

          First off, you worthless little puke, Dems, Libs, and progressives are AMERICANS, you idiot. And you could have fooled me that you people don't have a problem with us.

          You seem to believe that Dems and Libs are people that Americans could have problems with, and by that statement alone you show that you do not believe that we are "real" Americans. What with Glenn Beck calling us nazis, communists, vampires trying to suck the blood out of America, I am not surprised.

          When he says that liberals are a cancer to be eradicated by whatever means necessary, I guess that makes it easier, if you dehumanize us, if you make us out not to be Americans, when you decide to take some of us out. Is that the kind of love you prefer? Since you seem to believe that you "support the troops" by sending them off to die so that f#@king Iraqis can be free to blow each other up, I am not surprised.
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          • Author by akmikeus (January 13, 2011 10:30 pm ET)
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            Wow, I said all that, cancer, nazis, progressives and support the troops? I would suggest that if you wear glasses, please use them and reread my comments. Also, you should be able to notice that no name calling is used.

            What I'm reading are words from a very angry person who's agenda is not going to plan and that if the bottom ever does try to rise up, you know they will be defeated like the Redcoats. Of course most people know that the TRUTH can be a very hurtful experience, of which your words clearly show.

            As for our troops, I pray that they bring them home everyday, but it seems that Obama has learned developed a taste for war. I agree that we should let the Iraqis blow each other up and street gangs in the US should be allowed to shoot each other up. I call it natural culling of the herd as is Mexico's current policy.

            Thanks for your insight...
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            • Author by curiousindependent (January 13, 2011 11:04 pm ET)
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              You are really too stupid. Where did I say that YOU said anything but that I am not an American. Read you own post, idiot, and see if you can see where you said that Dems and Libs are not Americans.

              And please tell me: How many Iraqis died to terrorism in 2001?
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          • Author by project21reps (January 13, 2011 10:42 pm ET)
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            curious: The history of you progressives/democrats is filled with horror and hate, in America. It is replete with broken promises, failed programs, inept governance, and insane laws. It pits one perceived class of Americans against other perceived class of American's. You are of the opinion that the masses should be ruled by the intelligentsia, because the masses are to stupid to know whats best for them.

            Liberals, on the other hand, are just misguided. They think with their hearts instead of their minds. Push the right buttons, and they'll follow you anywhere.

            By the way, your attempts at character assassination vis-a-vis Beck, are laughable to anyone who has ever actually watched his show. You do know that he is getting traction in the black community with his shows about the blacks man's contribution to this nation. http://www.theroot.com/buzz/glenn-beck-discovers-black-history
            http://www.black-and-right.com/2010/05/29/thank-beck-for-discovering-black-history/
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            • Author by mary59 (January 13, 2011 11:00 pm ET)
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              On your hate horse again, eh?

              Do you have little thought balloons rising above your noggin when you write so eloquently about "progressives/democrats/Liberals?"

              Liked your other screen names better.
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              • Author by project21reps (January 13, 2011 11:13 pm ET)
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                Mary: There was nothing hateful in my post. So, you agree with my statements, it seems, as you have remained silent on the content, choosing instead to only comment on the eloquence of the words.
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                • Author by mary59 (January 13, 2011 11:32 pm ET)
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                  Eloquence? Now I know you're joking. Thanks.
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                  • Author by project21reps (January 13, 2011 11:41 pm ET)
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                    Mary: I quote: "you write so eloquently". Those are your words, are they not?
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                    • Author by Johaely (January 14, 2011 9:55 am ET)
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                      Ever heard of sarcasm?
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                      • Author by project21reps (January 14, 2011 1:20 pm ET)
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                        I guess you missed my sarcasm. I just did what media matters does on every thread. You know, take someone's words and make it seem like they are saying something they weren't. I guess it went right over your little head.
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                  • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 10:03 am ET)
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                    Isn't it amazing that the very people who claim that Limbaugh and Beck rely heavily on sarcasm have a problem recognizing sarcasm?
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                • Author by foghornleghorn (January 13, 2011 11:37 pm ET)
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                  There was nothing hateful in my post.

                  Well, besides the words horror and hate, you're correct. But there was a whole lotta generalizin' goin' on.
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                  • Author by project21reps (January 13, 2011 11:48 pm ET)
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                    Fog: How are the words "horror and hate" hateful? It's the truth. Some of the most horror-able and hateful incidents in America history where perpetrated by either democrats or progressives, or progressive/democrats. That's not a hateful statement. It's a true statement. Some of the most hateful,bigoted, racist people in American history were either democrats or progressives, or progressive/democrats. That's another fact.
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            • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (January 14, 2011 5:40 am ET)
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              You do know that he is getting traction in the black community with his shows about the blacks man's contribution to this nation.

              OMG! YOU ARE SOOOO NOT BLACK!

              You direct someone The Root and THIS is what it says:

              Gasp and swoon -- Glenn Beck discovers that blacks have been all but removed from American history during the founding of this great nation. He gives his viewers a history lesson. Gee, thanks.

              And YOU have the nerve to think that means Beck is getting traction in the Black community?

              WHAT part of "Gasp and swoon"/ "Gee thanks" sarcasm didn't YOU get?
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              • Author by project21reps (January 14, 2011 9:19 am ET)
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                pearlene: No, his programs regarding the black man in America and our historical significance is what is giving him traction in my community. Before you continue with your racist rant, pearlene, I would suggest you go to the sites I linked to and read what has been written about him and the programs in question. I would have to say that at least 90% of the comments are positive ones regarding him, so please stop with the selective hate filled posts. They are not reflective of the the dialogue on those sites.
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                • Author by JoeSixpack (January 14, 2011 10:07 am ET)
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                  Of course 90% of the comments are positive. His followers are sheep. Big deal. No mystery there.
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                  • Author by project21reps (January 14, 2011 1:24 pm ET)
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                    So, I guess that would make all you lefty progressive big brothr lovers sheep as well? So, in your mind, agreeing with Beck's take on the history of the black man in america makes us sheep? How so?
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                    • Author by JoeSixpack (January 14, 2011 2:34 pm ET)
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                      Pearlene covered that perfectly well already. See, there's nothing impressive about "discovering" that blacks' contributions to history have been largely suppressed and/or ignored. Beck, in his infinite self-absorption, presumes to lecture us about something he just learned. Anyone with any sense realized that a long long time ago, but to Beck, it's an amazing revelation, and he's going to educate everyone. What's next - Beck discovers that water is wet?
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                      • Author by project21reps (January 14, 2011 7:00 pm ET)
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                        Joey: You couldn't be more wrong about Beck. What you are saying is entirely false. I would suggest you actually watch the programs in question, then come back and talk to me. Here are some comments made about the shows in question: I am certainly not a fan of Glenn Beck, BUT, at least he has made statements that question why Black history has been omitted in schools. America needs much more education of Black history, so this discussion was a good thing. Sometimes you have to give the devil his due.

                        Randell Young
                        If Glenn Beck were a condescending Marxist Democrat, most here would be touting his promotion of black history. "I've got a dream" has truly morphed into "I've got a scheme."

                        Inconvenient reality check: How's that redistribution scheme working out so far?

                        If you want to get ahead in America, embrace capitalism not victimhood.

                        Contrary to hood logic, this is not “acting white”.

                        Check out Dambisa Moyo… here is a real African Leader and Visionary… and she’s as capitalist as Glenn Beck.

                        If she hadn’t been born in Zambia, Glenn Beck would be ecstatic to vote for her for President of the United States…

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFABdPOpr2A&feature=related

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXWIUg30Cpk&feature=related

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHKa4qiIegM&feature=related

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWXUWp-4knQ&feature=related

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6xD8_fZnVU&feature=related

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oasbi5UPMGo
                        Yahtahei says:
                        May 29, 2010 at 11:05 am
                        Bob;
                        I think it is “breaking news” for the rest of the country, maybe even Beck himself, but as has already been mentioned, it is about time someone in the main stream misinformation business gave the country some facts instead of the typical liberal Democrat dribble that has inundated our education system.

                        The “shame” is that it takes a Beck type personality to inform the undereducated adults who have not been exposed to such facts.

                        Rich says:
                        May 29, 2010 at 12:18 pm
                        Becks been doing Friday programs on the Founding Fathers. As this material is no longer taught in school, Beck is trying to reveal it to the public as he discovers it through reading and then bringing on the authors who dug out and researched the material. He emphasizes the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and how the elected representatives are ignoring them.

                        What he is has shown me is that the Christian values had a strong influence in founding the U.S.A.

                        This episode shows the Black Founding Fathers and the Black heroes of the revolution and points out just how important these people were to the outcome.

                        Beck comments on how could this very important history could be hidden from general knowledge.

                        Short answer – Woodrow Wilson and his Democrats – Progressives.

                        Well worth watching, I’m listening for the second time as I type this.

                        Full program; http://usaguns.net/patriots/beckaa.html

                        Beck is great at digging out the truth.



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                • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (January 14, 2011 7:38 pm ET)
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                  pearlene: No, his programs regarding the black man in America and our historical significance is what is giving him traction in my community.

                  Lord have mercy!

                  "My community"? The 2% African American conservative community of which you are not a member?

                  Before you continue with your racist rant, pearlene, I would suggest you go to the sites I linked to and read what has been written about him and the programs in question. I would have to say that at least 90% of the comments are positive ones regarding him, so please stop with the selective hate filled posts

                  I've read The Root since it first started back in early 2008. And the only thing appearing on your link is the sarcastic response to the video that I posted. The video has been removed.

                  The Black and The Tight was started by Bob Parks.

                  And who is Bob Parks?

                  In 2006, Bob Parks served as the Vice-Chairman of the Massachusetts Republican Assembly, ran for chair of the Massachusetts Republican Party in 2007, Massachusetts state representative in 2008.

                  He has written for websites like Accuracy In Media (AIM was founded by Reed Irvine in 1969, when Irvine called for sedition charges to be brought against Students for a Democratic Society, the Black Panthers and the Progressive Labor Party, arguing, "If you're going to halt treason, you've got to do it while it's small."), New Media Alliance (On its website Heritage New Media describes NMA as "a conservative issue advocacy and information group established to promote and defend traditional social, political and economic principles nationally."), The New Media Journal (The New Media Journal is division of BasicsProject.org BasicsProject..., Chronwatch (a media watchdog and conservative news organization), Washington Times (no explanation needed)

                  I would expect nothing but "positive" comments from a right-wing conservative website for Glenda, regardless of the subject.
                  so please stop with the selective hate filled posts. They are not reflective of the the dialogue on those sites.

                  Haven't you heard, "The truth will set you free!"

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                  • Author by project21reps (January 14, 2011 11:43 pm ET)
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                    Perlie: I see the truth doesn't seem to have set you free. Yeah, there are black conservative websites. And they promote black self determination. An what's your problem with someone equating the actions of those three groups with sedition? I don't get your point. Matter of fact, your whole post doesn't really say much. What you don't seem to understand, is that as my community gains economic strength, and it no longer needs to rely on government handouts for survival, the weaker the lefts hold on my community will be. The more our paychecks shrink, because of the need to feed the government beast, the less enthusiastic we will be in feeding it.

                    In case you missed the point I am making regarding Beck and "black history", consider this. Our history has been "hidden" from us by who? Exactly who is responsible for this shame? And how long has this been going on? And why is it still still going on? Tell me, who is it that is against school choice? The right or the left? Be honest, not partisan, in your response.
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                    • Author by foghornleghorn (January 15, 2011 11:54 am ET)
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                      Please, please stop with the "my community" and "our history" crap, Mr. Fake Black Man.
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                    • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 8:08 pm ET)
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                      Our history has been "hidden" from us by who? (sic)
                      That's "by whom". And, it isn't being hidden by anyone. The history is readily available. The fact that you are too stupid to read and understand it does not mean it is hidden.
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            • Author by dommanno3075 (January 14, 2011 7:56 pm ET)
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              By the way, your attempts at character assassination vis-a-vis Beck, are laughable to anyone who has ever actually watched his show. You do know that he is getting traction in the black community with his shows about the blacks man's contribution to this nation. http://www.theroot.com/buzz/glenn-beck-discovers-black-history
              You should learn how to recognize sarcasm. The author of that post was not praising Beck.

              http://www.black-and-right.com/2010/05/29/thank-beck-for-discovering-black-history/
              Written by a guy who has worked for Fox, the Washington Times and Accuracy In Media, so his credibility is non-existent.

              He's also been Vice-Chairman of the Massachusetts Republican Assembly. He ran for chair of the Massachusetts Republican Party in 2007 and fore Massachusetts state representative in 2008 as a Republican. Definitely not representative of American blacks.
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              • Author by project21reps (January 14, 2011 11:49 pm ET)
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                dommanno3075: Why is his credibility non-existent? Oh, I see. He's conservative and has worked for conservative organizations, that you believe to be evil. I got it.

                .
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                • Author by dommanno3075 (January 15, 2011 1:45 am ET)
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                  No, you don't "got it." He has no credibility because he wrote for outlets that offer nothing but lies and propaganda. Neither he nor you would know the truth if it fell on you.
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                  • Author by project21reps (January 15, 2011 10:28 am ET)
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                    dommannno3075: Maybe you should stop with the stereotyping of right wing outlets. In your world, all right wing outlets lies and are propagandists. Your opinion, not withstanding, he has more credibility than most of your left wing propaganda site, such as this one.
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                    • Author by MiniTru (January 16, 2011 11:44 am ET)
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                      k1dork, please point out any "left-wing propaganda" put forth by this site. This site puts forth the right-wing propaganda spewed by hate radio and right-winf TV, in the original words. I guess the truth, to you, is "left-wing propaganda," because, as we all know, reality has a liberal bias.

                      Please do not hesitate to be clear, lucid, precise, and to the point. Not that you have ever been any of those things in your posting history here.
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            • Author by chuckie (January 15, 2011 4:12 am ET)
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              You do know that he is getting traction in the black community


              Well, not really the black community in New York City since his radio show was cancelled there.
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            • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 4:02 pm ET)
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              By the way, your attempts at character assassination vis-a-vis Beck, are laughable
              well actually, i find BeckyBoo laughable. i'm just waiting for the day when he has a complete meltdown on his show in front of America... maybe he'll bring his gun.
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          • Author by project21reps (January 13, 2011 11:01 pm ET)
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            Curious: If all dems, libs, and progressives are anything like you, what with your anger management problems, and what not, is it any wonder the rest of us have a problem with them?
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            • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 10:06 am ET)
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              My anger management problems? You are laughable, little boy.

              So now you are a marcher with MLK
              a Nam vet.
              a member or a white-run black website
              a Fox producer
              and a psychiatrist.

              I am continually impressed at your lack of contact with reality.
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              • Author by project21reps (January 14, 2011 1:44 pm ET)
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                curious: I see your wasting your money on those anger management courses. By the way, you are a liar. I never marched with MLK, though I did particiapate in civil rights march's as a youth. I am a viet nam era vet. Never claimed to have served in Nam. The site I am associated with is not white run, though we do get funding from a lot of differant sources. Never said I was a Fox producer. What I said was I am involved in a serias of programs that will be highlighting the horror's the progressive/democratics have perputrated on my community, which Fox has agreed to air. And I don't need to be a psychiatrists to know that you have severe mental health issues, that rivals your hero, Jared Lee Loughner
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                • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 5:26 pm ET)
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                  Dude, you are the one that said that you marched with MLK, not me.
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                  • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 5:40 pm ET)
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                    That didn't take long to find
                    http://mediamatters.org/research/201012280001#1124530
                    by foghornleghorn (December 28, 2010 4:12 pm ET)
                    You know, there are still people living today who marched with Dr. King. Let's ask them instead of a WorldNetDaily columnist.
                    by project21reps (December 28, 2010 4:24 pm ET) I am one of those of which you speak, chief.
                    I am glad to see you retract that false claim (also known as a LIE). What else have you lied about?
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                    • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 5:45 pm ET)
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                      One of the rules of successful lying is, try to remember your lies. Especially if you put them down in writing. Especially if you write them on the internet, where they are relatively easy to find.

                      Of course, the best plan is just don't lie, and you won't have to worry about getting caught in one.

                      By the way, you should probably forward this little exchange to Fox. It will demonstrate to them that you have no respect for truth, and will make them like you more.

                      You should fit right in.
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                      • Author by Old_Benjamin (January 14, 2011 7:05 pm ET)
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                        Well done curious. I have been pointing out the lies spewed by this lying a-hole pos for a while now. It will just scurry away now and show up on another thread - remarkably unembarrassed.
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                      • Author by project21reps (January 15, 2011 12:02 am ET)
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                        Curioius: I see. Maybe I should have been a little clearer. Millions of people marched with MLK during that period of time. I was one of those millions who marched in favor of civil rights. Did I march arm in arm with him? No. Did I march at every single one of his march's? No. So, I really don't get where you both are coming from with your accusations. Seems to me, your lying about the context of which I was speaking. I was a big supporter of his, in the day. I still am. So, again, tell me, exactly why do you feel I lied with my answer?
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                        • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 9:29 am ET)
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                          You are a lying pusbag, you said unequivocally that you marched with King, and now that you messed up and forgot that you claimed that, you are trying to say that isn't what you said. Unfortunately, it is right there in print. You didn't say you marched for the same reasons. You didn't even claim to have marched at every march. When Foghorn suggested that, in order to discover Dr. King's true political leanings, we should perhaps ask someone who marched with him rather than WorldNetDaily, you claimed to be one of those persons, chief. Insinuating that you did, indeed, march arm in arm with him. Otherwise how could you possibly claim to know that Dr. King would be a Republican today?

                          Are you uncomfortably warm right now? Perhaps you should go grab a fire extinguisher and aim it at your pants.

                          You never marched even once with Dr. King, near him, or for the same reasons he and the people who DID march with him marched.

                          I have marked this thread, and from now on when you post anything, part of my answer will be a link to it, to show everyone what a lying little puke you are.
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                          • Author by project21reps (January 15, 2011 10:19 am ET)
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                            You are so full of BS, chief. A statement was made about asking those who marched with MLK. Millions marched with him, at the time. I was one of those millions. If you or others took it to mean I personally knew Dr. King, or was a part of his inner circle, etc, that's on you, not me.
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                    • Author by project21reps (January 14, 2011 7:04 pm ET)
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                      curious: WTF? Where does it say that I marched with MLK? Your a liar, and not a very good one at that.
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                      • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 10:56 pm ET)
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                        LOL
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                      • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 11:19 pm ET)
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                        I'm just going to bookmark this, as future evidence that you are not only a liar, but you are a stupid liar. And you apparently believe that everyone else is at least as stupid as you are.
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        • Author by dommanno3075 (January 14, 2011 7:47 pm ET)
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          And it's not the Dems or Libs that American people have a problems with, it's the people in O's administration who were a part of the Weather Underground, self proclaimed Socialists, Communists and of course a lot of people who have never run nothing in their life except for maybe final exams. At least O had the sense to run Van Jones out of Washington in the middle of the night.
          Rewrite reality much?
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          • Author by project21reps (January 15, 2011 12:03 am ET)
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            I don't know what you feel is being rewritten.
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            • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 12:11 pm ET)
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              Yes, and that's the problem. You don't know.

              Anything.
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              • Author by curiousindependent (January 15, 2011 2:03 pm ET)
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                You shouldn't be so disrespectful of someone who was a Nam vet, marched with MLK, is a psychiatrist, and also a Fox producer.

                He denies claiming any of those titles now that he got caught out.
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                • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 2:40 pm ET)
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                  That's OK, soon he'll deny that he denied it. And he'll believe that to be true as well.
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    • Author by icantthinkofausername (January 13, 2011 7:13 pm ET)
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      The only thing I had a problem with was the reading of the bible, its ok if you read short quotes, but reading an entire psalm (I have no idea what they are called, sorry about that)is disrespectful.
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      • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 12:12 pm ET)
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        (I have no idea what they are called, sorry about that)
        Perhaps you should learn what you are talking about before you talk about it. That way you won't post like an ignorant, thoughtless, wingnut.
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    • Author by AnnieB (January 13, 2011 7:42 pm ET)
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      I heard that Obama spent 200 billion dollars to be in Tucson for a few hours, bringing his entire staff and arriving via both Air Force One and an air carrier. I think some of that also covered the cost of the t-shirts and his campaign materials, which were printed in gold. Really. I heard it on Fox or somewhere on the internet.
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      • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 1:41 pm ET)
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        I read that the tab for alcohol alone for the AF1 flight to Tucson cost over 100k
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        • Author by mjlilgui (January 14, 2011 1:48 pm ET)
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          Was Boehner flying with him?
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          • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 2:22 pm ET)
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            Boehner was at an RNC cocktail party that was far more important than some stinkin' memorial for a bunch of unimportant schlubs who were wounded and died in an attempt on one of his colleagues' life.

            Speaking of which, I haven't seen a whole lot of backlash on that. What's up there?

            For one thing, why was Boehner there instead of in Arizona, and for another thing, what kind of a$$hat has a cocktail party at the same time as the memorial?
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            • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 5:51 pm ET)
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              Ok my bad, maybe he wasn't at a cocktail party. Perhaps he was spending some quality time with his mistress. How's that for Family Values?
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              • Author by datruthfarmer (January 15, 2011 12:26 am ET)
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                In this situation, Boehner made the correct move for you, me and everybody. Please, take my word for it.
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      • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 4:41 pm ET)
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        I heard that Obama spent 200 billion dollars to be in Tucson for a few hours, bringing his entire staff and arriving via both Air Force One and an air carrier. I think some of that also covered the cost of the t-shirts and his campaign materials, which were printed in gold. Really. I heard it on Fox or somewhere on the internet.
        and i heard Glen Beck used to be a woman... go figure. (sic)
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        • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 8:12 pm ET)
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          I read that on the internet, so it must be true. Some people say so.
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    • Author by Nihilist (January 13, 2011 8:01 pm ET)
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      when you have the kraut-hammer saying it was a good speech there is something very wrong with the universe..... maybe the magnetic poles are shifting?!?!
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      • Author by akmikeus (January 13, 2011 8:11 pm ET)
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        Nope, no shift, but I'm thinking Global Warming has fried his brain maybe?
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        • Author by dommanno3075 (January 14, 2011 8:02 pm ET)
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          but I'm thinking Global Warming has fried his brain maybe?
          What's your excuse?
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    • Author by fairliberal (January 13, 2011 9:39 pm ET)
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      I wonder why the gnats at MMFA did not include any mention of the panel that commented on Obama's comments immediately after the event took place. That would include Bret Baier, Charles Krauthammer and Brit Hume, they spoke favorably of Barry's comments for the most part. Bill O'Reilly also called the talk "excellent". I guess the gnats at mmfa want their liberal lemmings to stay as ill informed as they tend to be. Selective reporting, just like the selective outrage by the despicable left manufacturing a connecting between the killer and the repubs and the right in general. Of course the lies and hypocrisy of the likes of Krugman and the laughable NYT have been exposed already, over and over again. Where is the outrage of the use of weapons by democratic candidates in their campaign ads? Where is the outrage when the DNC uses crosshairs and bullseyes in their campaign efforts? Where is the outrage when lefties advocate shooting republican candidates? Where is the outrage when liberal hacks advocate that Michelle Bachmann commit suicide? I could go on and on but I am well aware that the liberal bots that slither around this site will not pay any attention. You are all hypocrites.

      Even Obama sees it, he clearly was addressing the despicable behavior of the left in his comments last night.

      Shame on you and your ilk.
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      • Author by icantthinkofausername (January 13, 2011 9:42 pm ET)
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        TL;DR "Where is the outrage when the DNC uses crosshairs and bullseyes in their campaign efforts?" Noone got shot over it.
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        • Author by project21reps (January 14, 2011 1:47 pm ET)
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          No one was shot over the rights use of the same type of rhetoric.
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          • Author by Johaely (January 14, 2011 3:29 pm ET)
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            Sen. Giffords' office was vandalized repeteadly (which must have been what led the Sherrif to jump to the conclusion that it was the rethoric that led to the massacre). Also the offices of other senators was vandalized and possibly threatened.
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        • Author by fairliberal (January 14, 2011 8:39 pm ET)
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          No one got shot over anyones use of those symbols by the right either and none of your liberal hacks have shown otherwise. There was no connection what so ever between the political right and this lunatic. He did not listen to talk radio, didn't watch TV very often, this pathetic outrage by the left is pure garbage, and it has been exposed as such. Show a connection if you believe otherwise. Fact, you can't, and neither has Krugmman the times, or that idiot sherrif who should have had some police presense at the event. The moron didn't do his job and now he is criticising others to deflect attention away from his incompetance.
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          • Author by datruthfarmer (January 15, 2011 12:41 am ET)
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            Your clairvoyance ability is amazing.
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          • Author by Progressive_IL (January 15, 2011 4:30 pm ET)
               
            Sounds like you are extremely familiar with Loughner's likes/dislikes, and his state of mind prior to the shooting, since you clearly know things that nobody else does about him. Why didn't you grow a pair and stop him from shooting dozens of innocent people?

            Oh, that's probably because you don't really know him after all and just pulled that whole post of out of your a$$. Yeah, that sounds about right.
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          • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 4:35 pm ET)
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            There was no connection what so ever between the political right and this lunatic. He did not listen to talk radio, didn't watch TV very often, this pathetic outrage by the left is pure garbage, and it has been exposed as such. Show a connection if you believe otherwise.
            no one is claiming that. it appears tho, ever since this story his the airwaves that paranoia has stricken the fright right so they're on the defensive.

            it's obvious that right doesn't want to get along, which is evident in such postings and the words of others. otherwise, instead of coming here and saying; "you know, there has been a lot of angry words and acts. perhaps it would be best if Palin, Backman, Beck, Limbaugh need to scale back the hate how about we all stop." instead you go on the attack with the rest of the fright right.
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      • Author by project21reps (January 13, 2011 10:13 pm ET)
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        Yawn. Some of you don't seem to know that not everyone see's things as you do. It's strange that so much time is spent by you progressive big brother lovers on discussing, demonizing, and denigrating those who did not view the activity in question through the same eyes that you did. You drones never cease to amaze me.
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        • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 4:43 pm ET)
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          Yawn. Some of you don't seem to know that not everyone see's things as you do. It's strange that so much time is spent by you progressive big brother lovers on discussing, demonizing, and denigrating those who did not view the activity in question through the same eyes that you did. You drones never cease to amaze me.
          so were you looking in a mirror when you posted that? O'Lyly tells ppl to shut up and cuts off their mikes. BeckyBoo has a melt down and screeches like a harpy; "get off my phone." who is who do not share the same views.
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        • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 8:33 pm ET)
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          Yawn. Some of you don't seem to know that not everyone see's (sic) things as you do.
          Of course not everyone "see's" things we do. It's the trolls who see things through such a vile, ignorant lens as you do that brings out the pity in us.
          It's strange that so much time is spent by you progressive big brother lovers
          You have had the meaning of the phrase "Big Brother" explained to you many times. The fact that you still misuse it shows you have no capacity to learn, and that also brings out the pity in us.
          on discussing, demonizing, and denigrating those who did not view the activity in question through the same eyes that you did.
          And your eyes are so myopic that I am exceedingly glad that I do not see things the same way you do. Going through life so insecure, hateful, and ignorant must be a terrible thing, indeed
          You drones never cease to amaze me.
          You trolls ceased to amaze me years ago. Your boring repetitiveness is tiresome.

          And pitiful.
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      • Author by project21reps (January 13, 2011 10:15 pm ET)
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        fairliberal: Well said.
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        • Author by mary59 (January 13, 2011 11:03 pm ET)
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          So, you both love and hate fairlib? Got to hand it to you, that's so fair & balanced.
          Or sometimes switching screen names, you forget where you are.
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          • Author by project21reps (January 13, 2011 11:17 pm ET)
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            mary: Huh, wtf? One post was to all the progressive big brother lovers who posted on this thread, the other was complimenting fairlib on his/her post. What have you been smoking?
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      • Author by jediknight65 (January 14, 2011 4:34 pm ET)
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        slight difference between telling someone to kille themselves and saying we are coming for you with guns
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        • Author by fairliberal (January 14, 2011 8:44 pm ET)
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          Are you referring to Obama's statement that he'll come with guns? But what about the use of bullseyes? Is it wrong when someone on the right does it, but acceptable when the left uses it? Speak up. How about the use of a weapon in a campaign ad? Speak up. How about the democrat who said that Rick Scott should be shot, is that OK too? Speak up.

          Your response has no credibility. And if you notice none of the liberal bots who will usually counter every word I say has shown up to refute my points.
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          • Author by datruthfarmer (January 15, 2011 12:46 am ET)
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            Can you guys believe it. For the first time in 47 years, they canceled the first round of the Sony Open.
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          • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 1:06 pm ET)
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            Your response has no credibility. And if you notice none of the liberal bots who will usually counter every word I say has shown up to refute my points.
            Perhaps one day when you actually make a point, we'll bother to refute it. You provided no example, and Obama never said he'll come with guns. And the use of targets (not bullseyes, bullseyes are just the center of the target, and an entire target was used. Your guys used rifle sight crosshairs, there's a bit of a difference there) was used not in a violent way, but as an example of where to target efforts. No liberal has ever claimed to use "second amendment remedies" or "we came unarmed -- this time". That's strictly your side.

            Now, refute that, wingnut.
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          • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 4:39 pm ET)
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            Are you referring to Obama's statement that he'll come with guns? But what about the use of bullseyes? Is it wrong when someone on the right does it, but acceptable when the left uses it? Speak up. How about the use of a weapon in a campaign ad? Speak up. How about the democrat who said that Rick Scott should be shot, is that OK too? Speak up.
            it's not right for any side.
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            • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 8:35 pm ET)
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              And it wouldn't have been right if the things failliberal posted actually happened.

              They didn't.
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      • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 4:27 pm ET)
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        Even Obama sees it, he clearly was addressing the despicable behavior of the left in his comments last night.
        so what you're saying is it's just the left that has\is spewing hate, fear blah, blah, blah. and the right (FAUX et al) is completely innocent of any hate\fear mongering.
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    • Author by Nihilist (January 13, 2011 11:39 pm ET)
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      the repulickans [sic] are all Marxists. their credo: "what ever it is, their against it".... g. marx
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    • Author by vetecs (January 14, 2011 12:59 am ET)
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      What is surprising me about the right is that they stress the
      freedoms of Americans.. And all I heard all day is the condemnation of AU students for expressing themselves in a spirit lifting way.
      The key phrase here is "College Campus", young American students.They were there to celebrate the lives of the dead and have hope for the victims....Let everyone have there opinion, there is only one point of view for the families, is the lost of there love ones.
      Really in my belief there will be evidence linking, the Extreme Right Wing and Talk Radio and the Media. An investigation is taking place.
      A search of the accused home and personal was conducted.If in fact he keeps a diary there could be indications of Media influence.One suspicious thing I found after the incident, i was hearing on the news about reports from a girl who knew the accused distinguish his political views and his character saying he don't watch tv or listen to radio.I find this behavior on her part to be suspicious. I advice and I'm sure they are doing. Alaska Ex Governor get her team of Lawyers,also those guys on FOX, and 770 am on my dial. Just to cover there a$$.
      However, overall I think the President is doing a great job
      and made an excellent speech last night.Please let us have some respect of the 9yr old victim and her family. She was born during tragedy and died in a tragedy. Heaven got an angel.
      More reason for AU to cheer!!!! RIP to all those who lost there lives and condolences to the family. Speedy
      recovery to all the victims,especially to our Rep Giffords.
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    • Author by chickybabe318 (January 14, 2011 2:09 am ET)
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      Hummmmmm you guys seem to be silent on this one about your favorite man: Mr. Glenn Beck. Oh! I get it. Beck actually praised Obama for his speech and since that doesnt fit your agenda of making him look like a crazy evil right-wing extremist you don't post a word about it. How predictable.......
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      • Author by jediknight65 (January 14, 2011 4:30 pm ET)
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        beck had a moment of clarity and sanity. and good for him. it will last for a day maybe.

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    • Author by Nihilist (January 14, 2011 10:46 am ET)
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      jon stewart had a good skit on this yesterday.
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      • Author by akmikeus (January 14, 2011 11:29 am ET)
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        Now there's a hard hitting Journalist of our time. I put John right up there with Ed Morrow, no wait I meant Mr. Ed, a horse is horse of course unless the horse is Mr. Ed. Nee Haw, Nee Haw...
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        • Author by curiousindependent (January 14, 2011 1:46 pm ET)
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          So you are saying, then, that the first American media figure to do an accurate story about the failure of the Senate to pass the Zadroga bill in early December is as good a journalist as a television horse? I suppose that, since you think that, you would also agree that the only other American media (at that point) to even report on the bill's failure and got it wrong, would be even worse, right?

          I continually underestimate your stupidity.
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          • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 2:09 pm ET)
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            He refers to a horse, then starts braying like a donkey.

            akmikeus is, apparently, only half a horse. And I think we all know which half that is.
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        • Author by JoeSixpack (January 14, 2011 2:37 pm ET)
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          Wow. That is some biting satire, there, slick.

          Don't quit your day job. Somebody's gotta stuff those envelopes.
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        • Author by MiniTru (January 15, 2011 2:07 pm ET)
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          Now there's a hard hitting Journalist of our time. I put John (sic) right up there with Ed Morrow (sic)
          Your "sarcasm" would be a lot better if you actually knew the names of those you were feebly attempting to ridicule.

          As always, your attempt falls flat on it's stupid ass.
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      • Author by Truth,please (January 14, 2011 3:25 pm ET)
           
        I just watched it. It was SO funny! Fox actually criticized the blessing as the "native american who opened the show". That was waaay too much.
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    • Author by cornelison (January 14, 2011 3:04 pm ET)
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      Blah, blah, blah, blah. It proves that when Ailes told them to tone it down, they didn't have much to say.
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    • Author by Fox News - Nothing But Truth (January 14, 2011 5:25 pm ET)
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      Great Glenn Beck show today ladies and gentlemen. Turn that bad boy on.
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    • Author by BigJ (January 14, 2011 6:20 pm ET)
         
      Well, so much to play with here. Here are some facts:
      "Together We Thrive" is indeed a recycled Obama campaign slogan. It's from Obama's "Organizing for America" website, Feb 11, 2008. I suppose that's just a coincidence.
      Both sides have used military jargon since there were campaigns. Go look up the word campaign...
      To blame this on one map from SarahPAC is dishonest and biased, at best.
      The media (mostly left leaning) were quick to blame Palin and talk radio for this, before the bodies had even cooled. Righties only responded to the attacks. Do you really expect people to not defend themselves from such things?
      For those on the left to accuse righties of hateful speech is simply hypocrisy at its finest.
      In the end, Laughner is responsible for this. No one made him run down there and off six people and almost off 14 more. He planned it, gave warnings, including to law enforcement, then went down and did it. He deserves to die, soon and cheap. To try to displace that blame is one reason of many that this country is falling behind and apart.
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    • Author by wesley_fpt (January 14, 2011 6:28 pm ET)
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      "The real case is that she [Giffords] had no security whatsoever at this event. So if she lived under a constant fear of being targeted, if she lived under this constant fear of this rhetoric and hatred that was seething, why would she attend an event in full view of the public with no security whatsoever?" -Tea Party leader Trent Humphries, suggesting, while Gabrielle Giffords is slowly recovering from a gunshot wound the the head, that she's partly to blame for the massacre in Tuscon.

      F^!k the Tea Party...seriously.
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    • Author by Moderate Man (January 14, 2011 6:54 pm ET)
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      The election is over yet everything is still a campaign rally...

      Trying to build a narrative for the next two years?
      ------------------------------
      The Midnight Review
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    • Author by glenda76 (January 15, 2011 12:24 am ET)
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      I see that the casting couch at Fixed News is at again...
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    • Author by Upgrayedd (January 15, 2011 4:14 am ET)
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      You know what Fox, go F ur selfs.
      You know nothing of what you speak.
      Get a life.
      All of you,
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    • Author by ptluzzi59 (January 15, 2011 9:15 am ET)
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      here is your check ty for your comments when we need your kind of hate again on air we will have you back.
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    • Author by LagalLeft (January 15, 2011 10:48 am ET)
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      Michele Malkin is a despicable human being (apologies to my fellow humna beings). This woman is so full of hate, envy and jealousy that it's sickening. The president accepted an invitation to speak at the memorial service...which I would take to mean that he didn't decide when it would be held. MM, go back under the rock you slithered out from under. The people of Tuscon don't care about your nasty attempt to slur the president who came there to comfort them. Neither does the rest of America...except the people at Fox. I don't think they even they like you. After all, you are NOT one of them.
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      • Author by stevensonology (January 15, 2011 8:56 pm ET)
           
        Yes, Malkin is truly an angry vindictive sort of person. More generally, though, I can see why conservative Republicans are mad as hell about the memorial service. It has nothing to do with their purported objections either (pep rally non-sense, etc.) Rather, when Obama spoke to the crowd assembled, he exuded a genuine connection to those in attendance - and not merely the Democrat loyalists. His genius for offering solace was matched by his ability to inspire Americans to live up to be more than they have led themselves to believe possible. In so doing, Obama also demonstrated to viewers that there exists no other candidate with such immense abilities and power of both intellect and emotion. In short, the Republican activists are angry because, after a long season of feeling they were in some sort of ascendancy (culminating in the Tea Party-led sweep to victory in Congress), it became apparent - within the frame of a mere 30 minutes - that the ascendancy is in all probability a high-water mark, and that the GOP has not even a prayer of defeating Obama in the next election. So, yes, of course they are angry, though hardly for the reasons they have been voicing.
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    • Author by carolel839 (January 15, 2011 5:33 pm ET)
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      So now you’re dictating the manners of how we “should” grieve at memorials. Are we all are now expected to jump into lock-step because you know nothing about memorials. Funny how you don’t want anyone “treading on your personal rights”, and yet you have no qualms with treading on the personal rights of others.

      just shows how pathetic FAUX and co all are.

      with freedom comes responsibility. Just because one has the right to do something, doesn’t mean they ‘should’ do something. here’s a challenge for you, how about you guilt-ridden righties admit to your hate-mongering and agree to tone it down. It seems to me you have absolutely no desire to tone it down. In fact, since this incident righties have ratcheted up the hate mongering. While those on the left have toned it down and taken responsibility for what they say and do; IE Keith Olberman (sp) with removing his ‘Worst Person in the World’ segment.

      so what do you say righties, would you like to tone it down with us, and try to get along, or continue with the hate-filled vitriol?
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      • Author by Progressive_IL (January 16, 2011 3:46 am ET)
           
        "so what do you say righties, would you like to tone it down with us, and try to get along, or continue with the hate-filled vitriol?"

        It's plain to see that they've made their choice.
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