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Beck distorts Obama's comments to accuse him of "racism"

June 14, 2010 10:08 pm ET — 94 Comments

Glenn Beck misrepresented comments President Obama made during a 1995 interview to claim Obama did not want to meet with BP CEO Tony Hayward because he is a "white CEO" and that those comments were "code language" that "sounds like racism," "stereotyping," and "profiling." However, as Obama's full comments make clear, he was actually discussing personal responsibility on the part of both blacks and whites.

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Beck distorts comments to accuse Obama of engaging in "racism," "profiling," and "stereotyping"

Beck: "[T]here seems to be a little profiling going on here" that "sounds like racism." On his radio show, Beck aired an edited audio clip of Obama saying, "I really want to emphasize the word 'responsibility.' I think that whether you are a white executive living out in the suburbs who doesn't want to pay taxes to inner-city children --" Beck then likened the comments to "code language" and said they sounded "like racism." Beck suggested that the reason Obama didn't want to meet with Hayward to talk about the oil spill was because "he's a white CEO that maybe lives out in the suburbs and doesn't want to pay taxes, you know, for any inner-city children."

From the June 14 edition of Premiere Radio Networks' The Glenn Beck Program:

BECK: What is it exactly in your vast experience in oil? Or is it oil? Is it that these are all oil executives? I'm sorry, we're stereotyping here, and I'm just trying to get my arms around what we can stereotype with no information and what we can't stereotype with information.

[...]

BECK: Now, is it oil? Because you don't have any oil experience. Did you work at a gas station? Because maybe you could come out and say, "Hey, all gas station owners are alike" in your experience, if you've worked at a gas station. Or is it the fact that he's a white executive? Maybe -- maybe your problem is, is that he's a white CEO that maybe lives out in the suburbs and doesn't want to pay taxes, you know, for any inner-city children. Yeah, I know that's such an outrageous --

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OBAMA [audio clip]: And I really want to emphasize the word "responsibility." I think that whether you are a white executive living out in the suburbs who doesn't want to pay taxes to inner-city children --

BECK: Ah, OK. All right, so maybe that's the problem. Maybe the problem that the president has with the BP executive, that he last week didn't want to meet with 'cause he had all the information he needed, he wasn't interested in words, but this week, he's going to meet with him. And I'm trying to figure out what changed. Did he find out that not all white executives that live out in the suburbs don't want to pay their taxes to go to inner-city children, which I believe is code language, isn't it? Is that code language, Mr. President? I thought we weren't supposed to use code language. A white executive that doesn't want their tax dollars to go to inner-city children -- sounds like code language.

It sounds like racism. It sounds like stereotyping. It sounds like profiling, which, I didn't think we were supposed to do. Isn't that your problem in Arizona? Your problem with the Arizona law is you're profiling. They can stop you just for looking Hispanic. That's what you claim.

Mr. President, are you profiling this executive? Just because he looks like a CEO? Because he looks like a white CEO? Because he looks like an oil company CEO? I'm not sure what you're profiling, but there seems to be a little profiling going on here. Were you actually born in Arizona, and not Hawaii? I'm suddenly interested in the birth certificate, because maybe your birth certificate says you were born in Arizona. I've never questioned your birth certificate. Now, I'm kind of curious. Maybe you were born one of those evil Arizonan profilers.

Beck: Obama comment "sounds an awful lot like profiling." On his Fox News show, Beck again cropped Obama's 1995 comments to claim they sounded "an awful lot like profiling" and reiterated his suggestion that the reason Obama did not want to meet with Hayward is because "he's a white CEO" and "white CEOs, they don't like to -- they don't want to pay their tax dollars and have those tax dollars go to inner-city kids."

From the June 14 edition of Fox News' Glenn Beck:

BECK: What is it that Barack Obama knows that he won't even bother to meet with the guy to hear him out? Well, until, you know, he changed his mind a couple of days later. What is it that the dictator of Iran, the crazy guy in Iran has in the credibility department that the CEO of BP doesn't have? What is it? Tell me. I'd like to know. Does the fact the BP CEO is a capitalist -- does that -- is that what does it? You know, when I meet with those capitalists -- he's a white CEO. Maybe that's it. He's a white CEO. White CEOs -- I don't know if you know this -- but white CEOs, they don't like to -- they don't want to pay their tax dollars and have those tax dollars go to inner-city kids.

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OBAMA [audio clip]: And I really want to emphasize the word responsibility. I think that whether you are a white executive living out in the suburbs who doesn't want to pay taxes to inner-city children to -- for them to go to school --

BECK: I know. Man, all those white executives, what racists they are. They're all alike, you know. Oh, they just hate those inner-city kids. Wow. Inner-city kids -- that's not code language, is it? And gee, all those white executives that don't want to pay their taxes, have to go to -- that sounds an awful lot like profiling.

[...]

BECK: It's almost like he's generalizing, profiling, and stereotyping.

Obama was speaking to the "responsibility" both whites and blacks must take to get past "divisions"

Obama: Whites and blacks must take responsibility "if we're going to get beyond the kinds of divisions that we face right now." In an August 1995 interview with Bill Thompson, who interviews authors for his online series Eye on Books, Obama discussed what he had learned in writing Dreams from my Father, his 1995 memoir, and he also addressed issues of race in America. When Obama was asked whether the next generation will also have to deal with the same racial issues, he replied that it "depends on what we do and whether we take some mutual responsibility for bridging the divisions that exist right now." Obama continued: "And I really want to emphasize the word 'responsibility.' I think that whether you are a white executive living out in the suburbs who doesn't want to pay taxes to inner-city children to -- for them to go to school or you're an inner-city child who doesn't want to take responsibility for keeping your street safe and clean, both of those groups have to take some responsibility if we're going to get beyond the kinds of divisions that we face right now" [emphasis added].

From the interview [with what Beck aired in bold]:

[4:56 of audio] THOMPSON: What was the most difficult part of the book to write?

OBAMA: I think what was toughest was writing honestly and truthfully about the suspicions and hurts and failings of the people closest to me, and writing about those same failings and disappointments and blind spots in myself. I think whenever we talk about race there are all kinds of issues that we'd like to skirt. You know, I tell the story -- just to take one of the clearest examples -- of my grandmother, who loves me dearly and has made all kinds of sacrifices on my behalf, expressing at one point when I was a teenager her fear of black men on the streets. And, you know, to discuss that honestly and to discuss how that felt, to discuss how my grandmother felt, and then to be able to arrive at some sort of peace with that, some greater understanding and some forgiveness, I think was probably the most difficult part of writing it.

THOMPSON: Were there times when you felt like just backing away from the whole thing and saying, "Oh, I don't think I can go through with this"?

OBAMA: Right. Well, certainly, I think there's an impulse among all of us to shy away from these issues. There's a certain race weariness that confronts the country, precisely because the questions are so deeply embedded and the solutions are going to require so much investment of time, energy, and money. And so I share that reluctance sometimes to explore these issues.

I think what kept me going is the recognition that we can't solve these problems by ignoring them or pretending that they don't exist. And one of the things that strikes me and the country right now is our tendency to either pretend that racial conflict does not exist, that racial division and hatred does not exist, and to pretend that we live in a color-blind society -- I think sometimes members of the Supreme Court, the current Supreme Court, take that line -- or to say that race is everything, that there's no possibility of common ground between black and white.

And I think the truth of the matter is that -- and hopefully what people will get out of the book -- is some sense that although the lives of blacks and whites in this country are different, although our historical experiences are different, my family is an example -- and, hopefully, I am an example -- of the possibility of arriving at some common ground and that we do share values and principles around which we can organize and make for a better life.

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[11:18 audio] THOMPSON: I'm wondering if the ethnically mixed couple of today, if when their child is 34 years old, if they'll find it any easier to deal with these issues then than you have found it now?

OBAMA: That's an interesting question. I'm not sure. I think in some ways there's less novelty to the idea of mixed couples. They're not seen as lurid or perverse in ways that I think they were 30 years ago. I think that this country is inevitably going to be undergoing changes simply due to demographics. I think that there's been a lot of talk about the "browning of America" --

THOMPSON: I was just going to use that same phrase.

OBAMA: Right. And I think that is going to be happening, and we can't ignore it. I think whether or not my children or your children will have to struggle with these same issues depends on what we do and whether we take some mutual responsibility for bridging the divisions that exist right now. And I really want to emphasize the word "responsibility."

I think that whether you are a white executive living out in the suburbs who doesn't want to pay taxes to inner-city children to -- for them to go to school or you are a inner-city child who doesn't want to take responsibility for keeping your street safe and clean, both of those groups have to take some responsibility if we're going to get beyond the kinds of divisions that we face right now.

Beck previously called Obama a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred for white people"

Beck: Obama is a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred for white people." During a July 28, 2009, appearance on Fox News' Fox & Friends, Beck said that Obama was a "racist" who had "exposed himself as a guy, over and over and over again, who has a deep-seated hatred for white people or the white culture." 

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    • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (June 14, 2010 10:15 pm ET)
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      Klan much, Beckerhead?...
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    • Author by pilotx (June 14, 2010 10:50 pm ET)
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      Because we all know the biggest problem in the nation is hatred towards white CEO's of multi-billion dollar corporations. Maybe they should form a group or something and march on Washington to bring light on the blight of these rich oppressed people. For shame, how low we have sunk as a country when a white millionaire can't even have an audience with a sitting president. Thanks Glenn, where would we be without you?
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      • Author by eb (June 15, 2010 7:32 am ET)
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        I guess we are learning the hard way that irresponsible behavior on the part of white CEOs can do much more damage than your typical street thug.
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    • Author by Don Quixote (June 14, 2010 10:59 pm ET)
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      Beck is evil incarnate.
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    • Author by jcelia (June 14, 2010 11:08 pm ET)
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      Glen Beck is an evil man. To continually attempt to stir up hatred for a president who is moderately liberal, honest, concerned with providing the best for the people of his country but happens to be black is despicable. Unfortunately the last adjective listed fits conveniently into Beck's scenario which leads him to his true goals: fame and money.
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    • Author by k1dork (June 14, 2010 11:10 pm ET)
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      America is still horribly racist. Just look at this racist Hallmark card example...
      NAACP calls Hallmark graduation card racist
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      • Author by clams casino (June 15, 2010 12:19 am ET)
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        That's ridiculous. The NAACP is clearly misunderstanding the card. There's nothing racist about it. It's racist to say, "black holes" now? Please. Can we focus on actual racism please, not made up nonsense?
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        • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 12:30 am ET)
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          Who are you to say that it's not racist? Obviously people were offended. If not, are you suggesting that they could be faking outrage? Why would they do that?
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          • Author by pete592 (June 15, 2010 3:14 am ET)
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            Who are you to say that it is?
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            • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 12:42 pm ET)
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              Who are you to say that Glenn Beck is racist because he happens to think Obama is racist?
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              • Author by pete592 (June 15, 2010 1:22 pm ET)
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                I didn't say that.
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              • Author by pete592 (June 15, 2010 1:27 pm ET)
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                And I don't think Glenn is racist because he happens to think that Obama is a racist. I think that Glenn is racist because he has difficulty criticizing Obama without mentioning Obama's race.
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              • Author by mikehuck1976 (June 15, 2010 5:32 pm ET)
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                That actually makes his a race-baiter, dork. But, then you already knew that. As usual, you are simply here to waste everyone else's time.
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                • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 10:34 pm ET)
                     
                  That doesn't make him a race-baiter. If I think white people who associate with white supremicists are racist, does that make me a race-baiter? I don't think so.
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            • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 12:42 pm ET)
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              Who are you to say that Glenn Beck is racist because he happens to think Obama is racist?
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              • Author by SMTDL (June 15, 2010 1:12 pm ET)
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                If Glenn Beck is so sensitive to racism why does he only see it in Pres Obama,Van Jones,Sonia Sotomayor,Rev Wright,Michelle Obama,etc!??He has,never seen it in Rush Limbaugh,or Teaparty leaders or the unrepentant "Raghead" Republican in South Carolina,The Whitehouse watermelon patch creator,the "minstrel eyes" Presidential photo gallery...or the dead Chimp NYT cartoon.So hell yes I KNOW he's racist when he calls the President a racist after cliaming he also supports/believes in everything Dr King stood for.This man is the biggest racist and hypocrite anyone could think of!!
                Did you hear his parody of little Malia Obama conversing with her Father?The 'Amos and Andy' father voice was kind of a clue!!
                For the record,Beck doesn't really think Obama is Racist, he just wants millions of gullible Americans to think so!!
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          • Author by MiniTru (June 15, 2010 7:48 am ET)
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            Yeah, right. Hallmark, that bastion of vanilla greetings, is going to put out a racist greeting card.

            Dork, do you never tire of displaying abject ignorance?
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            • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 12:43 pm ET)
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              The NAACP leadership said it was racist. Do you think they are ignorant as well?
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              • Author by pearlene_scott1602 (June 15, 2010 7:25 pm ET)
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                The NAACP leadership said it was racist. Do you think they are ignorant as well?

                I don't think they're ignorant, but the folks standing in front of those news cameras seriously need hearing aids.

                Using just a little common sense, you'll see the actual card says something about the solar system, so why would anyone think "black wh*re" instead of "black hole"?

                The NAACP is a fine organization, but THIS is not one of their finer moments.
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        • Author by eb (June 15, 2010 7:41 am ET)
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          The NAACP is clearly misunderstanding the card. There's nothing racist about it.

          It seems that Beck and NAACP have a little something in common: playing the race card... While NAACP might be misunderstanding the card, Beck is intentionally distorting and misquoting Obama and manipulating video.

          Beck is doing the same thing that a lot of conservatives claim victimizes them: over zealously accusing others of racism.

          If Jesse Jackson does it, they are outraged. When its their clown hero Beck, they look the other way!
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        • Author by DellDolly (June 15, 2010 12:07 pm ET)
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          Did you READ the article? They said that it sounded like someone was saying "black whores".

          They didn't say they were offended by "black holes".
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          • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 12:44 pm ET)
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            I read it. They made NO clarifications. They said the card IS racist. IS.
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            • Author by DellDolly (June 15, 2010 4:34 pm ET)
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              Nope, that's not what they said. Hallmark recalled the card because clearly, to some people's ears, the card sounds like it says "black whores".

              It's not about what people KNOW it says. It's what people MIGHT THINK if they heard the card without KNOWING ahead of time what it said! And what some people would THINK that it said IS racist!
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              • Author by clams casino (June 15, 2010 4:54 pm ET)
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                Good god. So we should never ever talk out loud about black holes because some people might think we're saying something racist? Wingnuts often bemoan the pc rules of the left, but this is real example of over-the-top political correctness gone wrong.
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                • Author by DellDolly (June 16, 2010 1:37 am ET)
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                  Nope, but cards that don't have clear audio where people might misunderstand what is said (like THIS one that we've been talking about) SHOULD be pulled from the market.

                  But thanks SO MUCH for showing that you aren't above making a strawman argument when you can't refute a point. NO ONE ever suggested anything CLOSE to your bogus point that no one should ever talk out loud about black holes.

                  Did you REALLY think before you typed that sentence? I swear, get a clue!
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                  • Author by k1dork (June 16, 2010 1:41 am ET)
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                    People are sick of the fake racism crap. The card shouldn't be pulled because some people heard something that was not even said.

                    Why should we fold to appease everyone who gets their little feelings hurt over nonsense? You can't please all of the people all of the time.
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              • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 10:38 pm ET)
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                Clams makes a great point. I mean, there should be better criterea for saying that something is racist besides someone THINKING that something is racist.
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      • Author by pete592 (June 15, 2010 3:13 am ET)
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        A obviously misinterpreted talking greeting card is indicative of horrible racism. Now I've heard everything.
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        • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 12:45 pm ET)
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          To the leadership of the NAACP it is.
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          • Author by pete592 (June 15, 2010 1:25 pm ET)
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            Maybe, but "Horribly racist" was your terminology and your assertion.
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            • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 10:39 pm ET)
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              They seemed to be pretty offended. My wording to describe their offense isn't really the point.
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              • Author by pete592 (June 15, 2010 11:21 pm ET)
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                LIAR.
                America is still horribly racist.
                You gave no hint of attribution to anyone except yourself with this statement. It is you who described America, presumably your home country, as horribly racist. You could man up and admit it, but you choose obfuscate and lie.

                My wording to describe their offense
                LIAR. I have just watched the video again, and the NAACP made no such indictment against America. They did not blame the entire nation for this greeting card or make any hint that it's a symptom of nationwide epidemic of racism. They are clearly and exclusively targeting Hallmark.
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                • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 11:36 pm ET)
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                  LOL Is it that serious?! I was being sarcastic with the "horribly racist" line.

                  I think our country has made GREAT strides to alleviate actual racism.
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                  • Author by pete592 (June 16, 2010 12:14 am ET)
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                    Classic Hail Mary. After standing your ground and dishonestly attributing "horribly racist" to the NAACP no less than three times, you take refuge in sarcasm.
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                    • Author by k1dork (June 16, 2010 12:17 am ET)
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                      I didn't say the NAACP said America was horribly racist. "America is horribly racist" was me giving a sarcastic opinion. But, whatever you say Pete. It's really no big deal to me.
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      • Author by nativeofsf (June 15, 2010 7:40 am ET)
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        One wonders as to which "poster" actually listened to the words?

        When I first listened, something didn't sound just-quite-right. Regardless of the character voice used, the wording didn't sound clear -- the copy was not well-written. It would seem Hallmark did not pre-test the card's audio.

        Nevertheless, dork's left-field comment regarding the Hallmark card, does not support his initial statement nor its excessiveness. Still these two responses have been just as reactive and judgmental as the original posting...along with being dismissive in tenor and somewhat condscending.
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        • Author by bintx (June 15, 2010 8:48 am ET)
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          Dork is one of our resident racism defenders. He claims to be an African American. He was using this card to make a point . . . . he completely failed, as usual.
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          • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 12:47 pm ET)
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            You don't think the card is racist? Then explain to me how the leadership of the NAACP thinks it is?

            It at least shows that what some consider "racist" may not be to others. I don't think Beck thinking that Obama is racist makes Beck racist.
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            • Author by mikehuck1976 (June 15, 2010 5:35 pm ET)
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              You want us to explain to you how someone else thinks to your satisfaction? You get a little more troubled with each post, dork.

              You can't even explain to us why you only think black and brown people are racist. Gates, Sotomayor, Obama, but that Limbaugh and Beck are not.
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              • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 10:23 pm ET)
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                I don't think that only black and brown people are racist. I'm black. I do think that "racism" has become a convenient means of demonizing one's opposition these days, and I think that is not a good thing.

                I honestly don't think that the things that Beck is called "racist" for are racist. This NAACP card thing is an example of how people can assign racism to things that are NOT racist.
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          • Author by nativeofsf (June 15, 2010 9:45 pm ET)
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            Thank you bintx, I gathered from dork's repeated, inept non-sequiturs his logic was also...askew.

            Nevertheless, regardless of one's covertly seething, righteous animosity towards those reactionary neocon, hypocritical buffoons -- along with their helium-filled, lead balloon theories & beliefs -- utilizing the knee-jerk hortatory of their spittle's fatalistic prequel drivel, one should not initially descend into that dank & dark sub basement realm where their mind's logic pontificates from.

            I, for one, do not have adequate waders of sufficient length nor do I possess an industrial-strength rebreather apparatus of requisite magnitude to wade about in the Hieronymus Bosch-like world of the premeditated significances, their judgmental absurdities continuously ooze out of their individual pie-holes.
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        • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 12:51 pm ET)
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          How is my comment out of left field, my friend?

          My point is that what some consider to be racist does NOT have to be racist, and is NOT necessarily racist.

          I say this because I do not think that Beck thinking that Obama is racist makes Beck racist himself.
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          • Author by nativeofsf (June 15, 2010 10:23 pm ET)
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            Your pedantic sophistry, dork, is at its crudely best -- specious -- yet always entirely...fallacious.

            Your obtuse mind-set would be better exemplified if you had written:
            My point is that what some consider to be n!gg&rdly does NOT have to be parsimonious, and is NOT necessarily racist.

            Then again, you could've written:
            My point is that what some consider to be parsimonious does NOT have to be n!gg&rdly, and is NOT necessarily racist.

            So your task, dork, is to determine which statement you'd most ascribe to Glenn Beck's fetid brain, as everyone knows Glenda has no mind...the other being perhaps from you ",my friend"?
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            • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 10:32 pm ET)
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              I bet you're a hoot at parties with what you feel is witty banter, but this isn't a joking matter to me.

              I think attributing racism to everything that involves race does a disservice to all involved, and perpetuates a victim mentality that is truly destructive. I do not think that Beck thinking that Obama is racist in fact makes Beck the racist. I see his concerns as being legitimate. Obama attended a church for 20 years that teaches some divisive ideas about racial issues. They honored Farrakahn, a man who thinks white people are devils. I don't think Beck is "racist" for thinking that Obama might share some of the ideals of the church he attended for 20 years.
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              • Author by pilotx (June 16, 2010 11:31 am ET)
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                Have you ever attended a church like Trinity? They are not divisive in the least. I grew up listening to Rev. Wright and have heard and respect Rev. Moss. Trinity is a well respected mainstream church here in Chicago that even Oprah attended. While many can pounce upon giving awards to the Minister but many here and around the world regard his work. We tend to forget the Nation was founded at a time when Black people were being killed simply for being Black. Does the Minister have some outdated notions? Yes. Has he changed and grown as a human and no longer uses language such as whites being devils? Yes. Too bad one can only listen to race baiters such as Hannity and Beck to form an opinion about key figures in the Black community but give those hacks a pass on their own racism. I'm starting to see what others are saying about you only attributing racism to Black and Brown people and only when Limpy and Beck tell you to. Sad. I would suggest contacting Rev. Moss or even the Nation to learn the real story and not depend on bigoted idiots on Fox News.
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      • Author by bintx (June 15, 2010 8:47 am ET)
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        Dork, are you still trying to defend racism with this story? That's sad, bro. People were offended because the audio on that card was not clear and it sounded like something which it wasn't. No racism, just a simple misunderstanding.

        I'm sure you thought that this story made some sort of point for your constant defense of racism, but it didn't.
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        • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 12:48 pm ET)
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          I think it makes my point quite clearly. What is racist to some is not racist to others.
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          • Author by clams casino (June 15, 2010 12:56 pm ET)
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            So therefore the word is meaningless, and we can't call anything racist...ever?
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            • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 4:27 pm ET)
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              The word is becoming meaningless because people seem to shout "racism" any time race is brought up in a way outside of their understanding. Rather than analyze the situation objectively, people just blame racism for any discrepancies between their understanding and their opposition.
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              • Author by clams casino (June 15, 2010 4:35 pm ET)
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                This coming from the person who just claimed that a non-racist Hallmark card was evidence that this country is "horribly racist." How does it feel to be part of the problem and not part of the solution?
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              • Author by mikehuck1976 (June 15, 2010 5:36 pm ET)
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                Someone here has clearly become meaningless.
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                • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 10:43 pm ET)
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                  How tolerant of you. If a person's opinions don't match up with yours, write the person off as meaningless.
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              • Author by pilotx (June 15, 2010 5:46 pm ET)
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                The problem is that people like Beck clearly have no understanding of race but yet weigh in on such matters regularly and for the sole purpose of turning people against the President. That is sad. If they want to have an honest discussion about race I'd be all for it but he would need to have people like Melissa Harris-Lacewell, Tim Wise and other such scholars who understand and can articulate such matters in proper context. Instead we get a guy who has no Black friends becauuse he is afraid of offending them. That alone makes me question why a major cable outlet would allow such a person to have their own hour long show.
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                • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 11:09 pm ET)
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                  An honest discussion about race involves not completely discounting a human being's ideas about race simply because YOU don't think they qualify to discuss such things. Beck has had shows in which the ENTIRE audience has been black. They had some pretty good discussions on race.
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                  • Author by pilotx (June 16, 2010 3:25 am ET)
                       
                    Saw those shows and it wasn't reflective of the broader Black community. He only invited conservative Blacks. He has consistantly shown he has no relevant understanding of racial issues and his dog and pony shows with only Black people with a particular political ideology does nothing to prove that notion incorrect. A large percentage of Black people more than likely disagree with his beliefs and ideology. If he was intellectually honest he would include Black people who represent the majority of our views. Cowards like Beck and Hannity would never do such a thing. Defend him all you want but he has shown a deep-seated hatred for Black people.
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      • Author by DellDolly (June 15, 2010 12:05 pm ET)
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        So, if people heard "black whores", they shouldn't be offended?

        Really?
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        • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 12:49 pm ET)
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          So it's all about what someone FEELS and not what is REALITY?

          Kinda like how Media Matters doesn't like Beck's politics and FEELS that everyone on the right is racist, so it's OK to call them racist.
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          • Author by clams casino (June 15, 2010 12:54 pm ET)
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            You're really failing to make your point with the whole Hallmark card thing. The obvious difference is that there's nothing racist about the Hallmark card, while on the other hand Beck has made a very long list of indisputably racist and bigoted comments.
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            • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 4:29 pm ET)
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              That is exactly what I mean. They are indisputable in YOUR opinion. I don't think Beck thinking Obama is racist automatically makes him racist, so therefore it is not indisputable.
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              • Author by clams casino (June 15, 2010 4:41 pm ET)
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                As if that's the only evidence of Beck's racism? You could (and probably would) claim that David Duke isn't racist, but it is still an indisputable fact that he is. It's not as if your offbase opinions have any bearing at all on the facts.
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                • Author by k1dork (June 15, 2010 11:06 pm ET)
                     
                  Actually, if I remember correctly, David Duke is a Klansman, so I'm fairly certain that he is racist.

                  Nothing I have heard Glenn Beck say convinces me that he hates black people.
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          • Author by pilotx (June 15, 2010 4:18 pm ET)
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            No, MM doesn't like the fac tthat Beck and his ilk are using race to turn people against the President. There are many racists out there that do not like the fact Barack Obama is President and Beck and others are using this to their advantage. It's sick and dangerous and they should stop it. No where does MM state that all conservatives are racists nor does anyone else believe this but there are prominent conservative commentators using underhanded tactics regularly and they need to be called out on it. Let's not exaggerate what's going on here.
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        • Author by clams casino (June 15, 2010 12:52 pm ET)
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          If people heard "black whores," then they are sadly mistaken. They should have taken a deep breath, reread the card and realized their mistake before making frivolous charges of racism where none exists.
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          • Author by DellDolly (June 15, 2010 4:39 pm ET)
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            Yes, and IF they read this article about it and STILL maintain that it says "black whores", then they're being disingenuous.

            But IF they say that "black whores" is what they heard, they have EVERY right to be offended by it, whether or not the card doesn't actually SAY that. And that was my point - how you missed that baffles me!

            IF they thought that this is what the card said, then they would have been remiss for NOT calling it racist!

            And if someone doesn't read this story and happened to open that card and hear that, they might think the same thing.

            The issue is that a card that said "black whores" would be racist. That's what these people thought the card said.
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            • Author by clams casino (June 15, 2010 4:49 pm ET)
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              And again, those people are wrong and they're being ridiculous, so no, they don't have any right to be offended. And they don't have to read any articles to realize that the card isn't saying "black whores." They only have to read the card! It was a baseless overreaction.
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              • Author by DellDolly (June 16, 2010 1:40 am ET)
                   
                I totally disagree. They might not grasp that it was talking about black holes in that section.

                OTHERS might not either, since CLEARLY there were people who DID NOT UNDERSTAND that the card was talking about black holes.

                How can you possibly have MISSED that in this conversation? It's not rocket science. There WERE people who heard this card, read this card, and STILL thought that it said "black whores". What part of that FACT do you not comprehend?
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                • Author by k1dork (June 16, 2010 1:49 am ET)
                     
                  Wow. So since stupid people are...stupid, we should cave in to their stupidity any time they are offended by things because they are stupid.
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    • Author by doggeddem (June 14, 2010 11:13 pm ET)
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      Beck is a racist bigot. He is a waste of skin.
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    • Author by mk3872 (June 14, 2010 11:48 pm ET)
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      Beck took a quote out of context from a 1995 Obama discussion?? LOL! Man, he is getting desperate ... and crazier by the day ...
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    • Author by jms (June 15, 2010 9:57 am ET)
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      So it is a WHITE executive and just some random race inner-city child? Someone not blinded by race would not have said WHITE executive. And what if the executive doesn't want to pay taxes because the idiots running the school district haven't the first clue about educating children? I just love having militant activists running our country.
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      • Author by soze169880 (June 15, 2010 10:19 am ET)
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        I just love having militant activists running our country.

        When was Beck elected president?
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      • Author by soze169880 (June 15, 2010 10:21 am ET)
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        Oh, and you are aware Obama's half-white, right, you racist dipsh!t? Sure you are, Beck devoted an entire show to attacking her just because he hates her son so much.
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        • Author by soze169880 (June 15, 2010 10:30 am ET)
             
          *his mother
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        • Author by jms (June 15, 2010 10:49 am ET)
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          Exactly how is it relevant that he is half-white? Thanks for adding zero to the discussion and managing to fling the race card yet again. You continue to overachieve as one of the MMFA useful idiots.
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          • Author by soze169880 (June 15, 2010 10:56 am ET)
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            Exactly how is it relevant that he is half-white?

            Because you're claiming he hates white people, moran.
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            • Author by eb (June 15, 2010 11:04 am ET)
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              For Beck, Obama is racists and hates half of himself.
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            • Author by jms (June 15, 2010 11:20 am ET)
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              And Karl Marx (your hero) was an anti-semitic Jew, so what is your point. You act is if Obama is impervious to bias because he is of mixed heritage. Anyone can be brainwashed. You provide evidence of that every day.
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              • Author by soze169880 (June 15, 2010 11:34 am ET)
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                Not sure where you got the idea that Karl Marx is my hero. Is disdain for fat, lying drunks and the trolls that love them a hallmark of Marxism or something?
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                • Author by jms (June 15, 2010 11:55 am ET)
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                  The master of diversions rides again....
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                  • Author by soze169880 (June 15, 2010 12:04 pm ET)
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                    See, I would call "screw the environmental catastrophe, you need to be terrified because the president is a Scary Negro who hates white people" far more of a diversion than anything I've said. But then, I don't have a crush on Beck, so maybe I'm not meant to get it.
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                    • Author by jms (June 15, 2010 12:49 pm ET)
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                      you are right, your diversion in your post immediately above is more of a diversion than your other diversions.
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      • Author by eb (June 15, 2010 11:03 am ET)
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        So it is a WHITE executive and just some random race inner-city child?

        Wow, must we be so specific and sensitive. Obviously within a discussion of race relations we can assume the ethnicity of the inner-city child. Is Beck always this careful with his language?

        And what if the executive doesn't want to pay taxes because the idiots running the school district haven't the first clue about educating children?

        Crybaby whine ass conservatives complaining that some of their tax money goes to things they don't like... poor poor creatures... Sorry to inform you but we all pay taxes for things we don't like. For me the Iraq war was a bunch of idiot conservative militant activist trying to run a country and an economy without the first clue about nation building. I had to help pay for that. I have no problem paying for our brave soldiers and for everything that is necessary to rehabilitate them after sacrificing so much, but the invasion itself was not something I felt good about paying for...

        I just love having militant activists running our country.

        Funny. When you put Obama's remarks IN CONTEXT, he is advocating everyone across the racial divide take responsibility for bridging divisions and making our communities better. I guess this is responsibility stuff is way too militant for some people.
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        • Author by soze169880 (June 15, 2010 11:35 am ET)
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          Crybaby whine ass conservatives

          Like there's any other kind.
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          • Author by Johaely (June 15, 2010 5:50 pm ET)
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            Well there is the "hypocritical family values" "conservative", "the macho-man behind the desk" "conservative", the "son/daughter of an immigrant that wants no immigration" "conservtaive" and the "government should stay out of private bussiness, but not out of your private bussiness" "conservative".
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    • Author by egb (June 15, 2010 3:31 pm ET)
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      It is hard to defend Obama when he puts his foot in his mouth so predictably.

      Here are only a few:

      1995 "white executive living out in the suburbs who doesn't want to pay taxes to inner city children" -- White executives don't want to pay taxes. There are no black executives who don't want to pay taxes or even other people -- just "White executives".

      2008 "She is a typical white person" - Obama referring to his own grandmother.

      2009 "I don't have all the facts ... The police acted stupidly."

      2010 "... A poorly conceived law ..." - Re AZ Immigration law.
      "If you don't have your papers and you took your kid to get ice cream ..." He and his administration had not even read the law.

      Obama: "I have not spoken to him directly -- and here's the
      reason: because my experience is when you talk to a guy like a BP CEO, he's going to say all the right things to me."

      Obama has proven that he speaks first and thinks later. He has also proven he is a prejudiced individual. Prejudice isn't so bad unless you act on it and believe it and its wrong. We all have preconceived ideas, but unless we challenge our prejudices that produce harmful results, we deliver on the evil they reflect. Obama speaks and sometimes acts before he challenges his own thoughts. His principles are concealed from the public.

      If he would only think first, he would fare far better in life. Alas, he shows no such progress of mind.





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      • Author by pilotx (June 15, 2010 4:24 pm ET)
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        Many of those quotes were taken out of context and used improperly to show the president as a racist. If one were to understand the comments in their proper light and give them the thought they deserve we might have a real discussion but Beck and others are just using these words to rile up anti-Obama sentiment but creating racial distrust. Sad. You can use clips of anyone's speech or statement to put them in any light you want. We saw this with Jeremiah Wright. EGB, if you want to be intellectually honest you would provide a link to the entire statements not just your own edited segments of them. The president is a very intelligent and thoughtful man who more often than not articulates the feelings of many Americans who are proud he is the president and trust him to make the right decisions most of the time.
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        • Author by egb (June 15, 2010 4:52 pm ET)
             
          How do you put into context:

          "I don't know the facts, ... but the police acted stupidly"?

          or "typical white person"?

          There is no context to be discussed. He is prejudiced and he can't seem to control his mouth. I am sure he now wishes he would have said things differently, but he didn't and doesn't. Prejudice in and of itself isn't bad. It's when people's actions are based on prejudice that they become bad.

          Can anyone be certain, President Obama doesn't act on his prejudices? Has he shown contemplative thought before opening his mouth?

          I don't see it. Maybe others do, but I know few people that could have made as many prejudicial statements as this man has.

          To test yourself, plug "black man" into each of the above qutoes where a class of people are referenced and see if the resulting statement is acceptable.

          I don't know what he thinks, but I an quite convinced he doesn't think before he talks.
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          • Author by pilotx (June 15, 2010 5:39 pm ET)
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            What did he mean by "typical white person"? What is his definition? Do you know? Do you know which time period he was referring to? His grandmother grew up in a time in which Black people did not have the absolute right to vote and many whits held racist views of Black people. That is a fact and he was talking about the progress we have made in this country but are you just going to dismiss the context? And given that an 60 year old man who needs a cane was cuffed in his own home for being a "menace", yeah something does sound amiss.
            "There is no context to be discussed". I disagree, context is everything. Once you disregard what a person is trying to say and add your own biased opinion discussion breaks down which is what many who dislike him are doing regularly.
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    • Author by Rixic (June 16, 2010 9:48 pm ET)
         
      Well this clearly implies that Beck is a racist. He hates all the races except money. Fools who fondle his balls are the ones who worship at his altar of prevarication.
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