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Hannity's not even close on 2009 temperatures

November 25, 2009 12:37 pm ET — 52 Comments

In three separate instances over two weeks, Sean Hannity has baselessly asserted that "this is one of the coldest years on record" to claim that climate change is a "hoax" or not "real." In fact, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), and Britain's Met Office have stated that to date, 2009 is among the warmest years on record. 

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Hannity repeatedly asserted, "This is one of the coldest years on record"

November 10: "This is one of the coldest years on record, ladies and gentlemen." Hannity stated during the November 10 edition of his Fox News program, "Here's what I don't understand. This is one of the coldest years on record, ladies and gentlemen. There is no -- I don't believe climate change is real. I think this is global warming hysteria and alarmism."

November 18: "Senator, this is the coldest year on record ... or one of them." Hannity stated during a November 18 radio interview with Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), "[W]hat I'm afraid of is I think you're going to be used by the Democrats. 'Well, even Lindsey Graham agrees that global warming is real.' We're -- Senator, this is the coldest year on record ... or one of them."

November 24: "You can also look it up, this is one of the coldest years in history, this past year." During the November 24 edition of his radio show, Hannity told a caller who said he "can't wait" to confront "a liberal aunt and uncle" with "some facts" on global warming: "I tell you what, I have a special bit of information for you. At the top of the next hour, we're going to expose the global warming hoax and how they have purposefully been misguiding people on this issue of man-made global warming. You can also look it up, this is one of the coldest years in history, this past year."

In fact, major climate data centers indicate that thus far, 2009 is among the warmest years on record

NOAA: 2009 year-to-date global temperatures tied "as fifth warmest January-through-October period." NOAA's National Climatic Data Center stated in its October Global Analysis that "[f]or the year to date, the global combined land and ocean surface temperature of 14.7 °C (58.4 °F) tied with 2007 as the fifth-warmest January-through-October period on record." From the analysis:

NOAA explains that "[t]he term 'temperature anomaly' means a departure from a reference value or long-term average. A positive anomaly indicates that the observed temperature was warmer than the reference value, while a negative anomaly indicates that the observed temperature was cooler than the reference value."

GISS: 2009 year-to-date global surface temperature ranks fifth warmest out of 130 years. The following "Comparison of 2009 Temperature to the Two Years with the Warmest Annual Means" was posted on the Surface Temperature Analysis of NASA's Goddard Institute for Space Studies, last modified on November 16:

 

Met Office: 2009 will be one of top five warmest years globally. The BBC reported on November 24 that "[t]his year will be one of the top five warmest years globally since records began 150 years ago, according to figures compiled by the Met Office." The BBC further reported that "[o]ther sources say it could even be the third warmest."

Monthly U.S. temps not representative of global climate

NOAA: United States saw "third coolest October on record." NOAA stated in its October "National Overview" that "[t]he average October temperature of 50.8°F was 4.0°F below the 20th Century average" and that "[f]or the nation as a whole, it was the third coolest October on record." Hannity may be mistaking the U.S. national October temperature for the global annual temperature. Globally, October was "the sixth warmest October on record," according to NOAA. And data for the year thus far, rather than for one month, indicate that 2009 is among the warmest years on record for the planet.

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    • Author by newzhound (November 25, 2009 12:52 pm ET)
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      Facts? You expect Sheer "Am I An Idiot?" InSannity to be concerned with facts?

      His stock-in-trade is lies. He lies over and over and over again until the rubes and gulls believe them.

      He is a miserable human being. And a proven LIAR!
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    • Author by Publius39 (November 25, 2009 12:59 pm ET)
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      Why would Hannity let little things like facts or data get in his way of reporting things? He feels that if he repeats something long enough, with a little hope, it will become magically true.
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    • Author by ScienceBuff (November 25, 2009 1:10 pm ET)
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      So, will the denialists try to defend Hannity, or will they come back with a "Well, yeah, but still ..." response?
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    • Author by shaggles (November 25, 2009 1:21 pm ET)
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      Hannity is probably basing his assertion on his personal observation of local weather. Or maybe he's realying on the idea that any year that is cooler than at least one other year is among the coolest.
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      • Author by chrissmithatwork731 (November 25, 2009 2:32 pm ET)
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        I presume that Hannity lives in the NYC area. This November here it's been unseasonably warm. 50s and 60s all month.
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (November 25, 2009 8:34 pm ET)
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          It's been likewise warm here in Minnesota pretty much the entire month. Almost every day has been at least 10 degrees F above normal. It was certainly the warmest deer hunting season I can recall.

          Of course, we're not as narrowly focused on the local as gpp is, as shown in his posts below. Unlike him, we have enough sense of perspective to realize that our local temperatures have only a small impact on global averages.
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          • Author by rrastro (November 26, 2009 12:09 am ET)
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            and other places were far below all year
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            • Author by DellDolly (November 26, 2009 1:20 am ET)
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              And that's ALL weather, dunce. Not climate.

              Until you learn the difference between the two, why don't you stop wasting our time and proving your ignorance?
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            • Author by ScienceBuff (November 26, 2009 9:27 am ET)
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              I guess I was talking about you as well as gpp in my last paragraph. The fact remains that this year through October is tied for fifth warmest on record globally.

              In other words, your post was pretty pointless. It was shallow, uninformed and completely devoid of logic. Pretty much what we've come to expect from you.
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              • Author by jjamele2880 (November 26, 2009 10:16 am ET)
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                But...but....it snowed the other day somewhere!

                Doesn't that prove there is no such thing as Global Warming?

                Now, that it was 70 degrees in the Washington, DC area in mid-November doesn't prove anything and it's even really worth mentioning.

                These people just eat up the intentionally ignorant radio and tv yakkers who will jump on every snowfall as "evidence" against Global Warming, never noticing that you don't hear a PEEP out of ANY of them during heat waves.
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        • Author by Onyxcat (November 26, 2009 10:10 am ET)
             
          Oh here in Kentucky. It has been warmer than usualy.
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    • Author by Limit Corp. Ownership (November 25, 2009 1:21 pm ET)
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      Did he get the seasons right?

      That's pretty good for a Fox News host.
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    • Author by gpp (November 25, 2009 2:50 pm ET)
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      Temperatures are cooling.

      October was the 3rd coldest month in 115 years of record keeping in the US.

      Germany also had the coldest October temperatures ever recorded.

      New Zealand had the coldest October temperatures in 64 years, and the latest snow ever recorded.

      China had the worst October snow storm ever recorded, 9,000 roofs collapsed from the snow.

      Hey, where is the warming???

      [http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/get-file.php?report=national&image=timeseries02&byear=2009&bmonth=10&year=2009&month=10&ext=gif&id=110-00]
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      • Author by HiFiGuy (November 25, 2009 6:58 pm ET)
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        I realize you conservatives may find this hard to believe, but the United States is not the center of the globe.
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        • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 26, 2009 8:40 am ET)
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          Really try this...

          http://www.dailytech.com/Temperature+Monitors+Report+Widescale+Global+Cooling/article10866.htm
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (November 25, 2009 8:15 pm ET)
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        October 2009 had the sixth highest land temperatures and the fifth highest ocean temperatures on record. That's a fact relative to global temperatures. Your cherry-picked exceptions don't change that fact.
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (November 25, 2009 8:50 pm ET)
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        So, you like that long-term chart from that source? You used it, so I assume you trust it. Instead of looking at the records over time for a single month, let's take a look at averages for the US for entire years over that period of time:
        [http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/img/climate/research/2008/dec/Reg110Dv00Elem02_01122008_pg.gif]

        Wow, look at that. Annual averages show an overall upward trend. Imagine that.
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        • Author by Steel-W0LF (November 28, 2009 11:07 am ET)
             
          Funny, that graph shows things returning to normal to me....

          Here's a theory I find MUCH more credible than AGW
          http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html


          "Mann" Made Global Warming
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      • Author by maymet (November 26, 2009 9:14 am ET)
           
        I live in the far north of NY state and we have had a warm Oct. and Nov., warmer and drier than normal.
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      • Author by punkin (November 26, 2009 10:14 am ET)
           
        http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/paleolast.html
        how about this graph from NOAA - threee graphs of WORLD temperatures for 1200 yrs.
        there is a reason the term is "global warming" not "USA warming"
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      • Author by jjamele2880 (November 26, 2009 10:26 am ET)
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        China had a bad snow storm in October= No Global Warming.

        It was dark last night = No Sun.

        You deniers are BEYOND stupid.
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (November 26, 2009 1:42 pm ET)
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          "Scientists" are also trying to say that the days are getting shorter, and we're experiencing more darkness as we go into winter, because they're in bed with the headlight industry, and want to control our lives.

          Funny, by my watch, the days are still 24 hours, and I set up a light meter from midnight last night until 9am today, which showed a definite lightening of the sky !!! It's getting more day-lighty , not less !!!

          Can I get a job with Fox yet ?

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      • Author by truthseeker77 (November 27, 2009 9:18 am ET)
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        October was the 3rd coldest month in 115 years of record keeping in the US.


        1) Global warming refers to the world, not our single country.

        2) Hannity spoke about 2009, not the month of October. You're dumb.
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    • Author by gpp (November 25, 2009 2:52 pm ET)
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      [http://wattsupwiththat.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/asos-oct2009-nocities.gif]
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      • Author by ScienceBuff (November 25, 2009 8:12 pm ET)
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        If you just want to look at Octobers, we could read the article from NOAA entitled Combined Global Surface Temperature Was Sixth Warmest for October. Here's an excerpt:
        NCDC scientists reported that the average land surface temperature for October was also the sixth warmest on record. Additionally, the global ocean surface temperature was the fifth warmest on record for October.

        Do you think the rest of the world doesn't exist? Do you think that somehow you're giving support to Hannity when his statement is false by any objective standard?
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        • Author by gpp (November 25, 2009 11:28 pm ET)
             
          Yes, just look how temperatures are measured, this weather station is next to a building, an air conditioner, a satellite antenna. All this causes false warming from the urban heat island effect.[http://www.climate-skeptic.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/02/18/lampasas_tx_ushcn.jpg]
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        • Author by gpp (November 25, 2009 11:30 pm ET)
             
          This climate station is next to a trash burn barrel, wonder if this effects temperature, you bet.

          [http://www.norcalblogs.com/watts/images/Tahoe_city3.JPG]
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        • Author by gpp (November 25, 2009 11:33 pm ET)
             
          Global temperatures cooling since 2002 using satellite measurement of the atmosphere, which is not corrupted by inaccurate measurement of land based temperatures, which are impacted by trash burn barrels and other man made objects and activity.[http://www.woodfortrees.org/graph/uah/from:2003/plot/rss/from:2003/plot/gistemp/from:2003/plot/uah/from:2003/trend/plot/rss/from:2003/trend/plot/gistemp/from:2003/trend]
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        • Author by Don Hussein Fabuloso (November 26, 2009 1:44 pm ET)
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          Give it up, SB. GPP still hasn't cleared the simple hurdles of temperature vs. climate or U.S. vs. Global. This might be a lost cause.
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        • Author by LarryE (November 26, 2009 1:58 pm ET)
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          I know this will get the nanny-nanny naysayers panting about - well, about some accusation of intellectual nefariousness they will come up with somehow - but shouldn't it be pointed out that the term "global warming" refers to the gradual, over-time increase in average world temperature?

          That is has nothing to do either with short-term temperature changes or changes in any individual area?

          And that one of the predictions of global warming is the occurrence of more extreme weather patterns, of higher highs and lower lows?

          And so that the records here cited about October in the US (one month in one limited area) could just as easily be cited as evidence of global warming as evidence against it?

          One data point, which is what this essentially is, proves nothing one way or another. It is the overall pattern established by a large number of data points from a range of observational lines that makes the case. The fact that the pattern that emerges clearly points to human-caused global warming is why the nanny-nanny naysayers have to cherry-pick data in the vain attempt to make a case.
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    • Author by Secular Libertarian (November 25, 2009 3:20 pm ET)
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      Why would one be surprised to find that Mr. Hannity distorts information to meet his incorrect preconceived notions? All humans perform that action to an extent, however, in general, Fox News makes money by presenting these fallacious preconceived notion to viewers with similarly stunted notions. To the issue of global warming, in general, one would expect to find information that follows the trends set in a world that experiences some form of greenhouse-based warming. Although most people will distort information like this in a way that meets their preconceived notions, Mr. Hannity is a prominent member of the media, making his actions and statements affect more people than the average misinformed person.
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    • Author by peace4all (November 25, 2009 3:47 pm ET)
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      has this idiot ever been right about anything? they say that even a broken watch is right twice a day. seems to me the broken watch is 100% more accurate than hannity
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    • Author by terrapin53 (November 25, 2009 4:25 pm ET)
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      I might have some doubts about global warming, but one thing I do know; just because it was cool on the east coast this past summer, doesn't mean squat in the world of climate change. That is all these wingnutz have to go on. It snowed in Chicago in the winter time, so how can we have global warming. What idiots they are.
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      • Author by DellDolly (November 26, 2009 1:26 am ET)
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        Global Climate Change could EASILY make it cooler on the East Coast of the US while the whole world's average temp is rising.

        That's why it's climate change. The warming of the world in general will mean more extremes in many areas until the temp becomes more stable. During the times of increasing worldwide climatic temperatures, we're going to see more extreme weather, so more floods, droughts, record highs and also record lows.
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        • Author by Steel-W0LF (November 28, 2009 11:12 am ET)
             
          You realise they started refering to it as climate change two years ago because average temperatures started dropping, so they couldnt really feel good about calling it "warming" when it was returning to just "average"

          That and "Average Climate" and "Global Average" just dont have the same ring to them. Doesnt quite strike fear like "Global Warming" or "Climate Change" do.
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    • Author by Wiggles (November 25, 2009 6:57 pm ET)
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      Surprise Surprise, yet another thing Hannity is misinformed on.
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    • Author by alienofwar (November 25, 2009 10:32 pm ET)
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      It's unusually warm where I am too.
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    • Author by BBaker (November 25, 2009 10:44 pm ET)
         
      Well there are several problems with yours and Hannity's claim... neither can be correct since the NOAA begin using a new system to calulate the information. (http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/?report=global&year=2009&month=5&submitted=Get+Report)

      January was the 7th warmest.
      February was the 9th warmest.
      March was the 10th warmest.
      April was the 5th warmest.
      May was listed in ranking (see link above)
      June was the second warmest.
      July was the 5th warmest.
      August was the 2nd warmest.
      September was the 2nd warmest.
      October was the 6th.

      So you are correct that Hannity was wrong that it was the coldest but then again you might want to correct yourself since "2009 is among the warmest years on record."

      Also this site says that the temperature is a little higher then normal. http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/09/2009-shaping-up-to-be-a-normal-temperature-year-in-the-usa/

      And the hurricane commercial that talks about Hurricane that the government is pushing for Copenhagen summit is a lie also - Hurricane - http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/2009atlan.shtml

      Thanks for the link since it make my search a lot easier since all the facts was already there.
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    • Author by TheSarge (November 26, 2009 8:15 am ET)
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      You want graphs? Try this one.
      [http://www.theoildrum.com/uploads/12/global_temperature.jpg]

      Now, those of you who deny global warming seem to be cut from a certain kind of cloth. The same kind of cloth that people who think the earth is flat are cut from. That is to say: Complete and utter morons. Sorry if that's too blunt for you, but sometimes ypou just really need to hit people over the head with certain facts to get their attention. Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you think global warming isn't real you, sir, need educating.

      The science has basically been in on this since the middle of the 1980s, but Big Oil and Big Coal have put up a smokescreen, the same way Big Tobacco did with their claims that cigarettes do not cause cancer.

      It doesn't help that we allow any religious nutcase who wants you to believe that the earth is younger than the archaeological and geological evidence says it could possibly be to spew their nonsense and we don't call them on it. That we allow these farking twits to call what they do "Science" is a crime against thinking. The same goes for the twits who spout creationism as if it was anything more than a ridiculous fantasy. Please, if you are one the the aforementioned morons, twits, or a dumbasses, do feel free to try and justify your stupidity in the space provided below. I will, of course, promptly laugh at you. I believe it's only fair I tell you this up front.

      Have a nice day.
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      • Author by oldmaninblackforest (November 26, 2009 8:47 am ET)
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        Climategate is the best thing that ever happened to the "global climate change" BS. With all the faked data and code out of the way we can examine what's real and what's not instead of listening to the faked consensus...

        Certainly it's probable that the earth is warming. It's just that this junk science and fake modeling is designed to make it look like it's related to human activity instead of solar activity, or lack of while denying all other possible sources of change... pathetic
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        • Author by ScienceBuff (November 26, 2009 9:23 am ET)
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          There is no "climategate." There is nothing in those emails (I've read all that I could find that have been made available) that says any data was altered, concealed or fudged. Not when you read them in full and in context. Those things just simply aren't there. When I was reading through those emails I came away with respect for scientists who are working very hard to incorporate all of the data and get it right.

          Solar activity and all other inputs have been factored into their models as best as they can be. You're not stupid enough to believe that they simply disregarded those factors, are you? Human inputs remain as the most significant factor of input with regard to the current steep incline in average global temperatures.

          It will, of course, continue to be studied, but with the masses of data that have so far been accumulated and processed there aren't likely to be a lot of big surprises remaining.
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          • Author by jjamele2880 (November 26, 2009 10:21 am ET)
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            You realize that you are trying to reason with a moldy brick, don't you?

            A moldy brick with his fingers in his ears chanting "Algore Algore Algore Algore Algore" at that.
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            • Author by ScienceBuff (November 26, 2009 10:53 am ET)
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              Yeah, but I've got time to kill before the family arrives for the holiday. I find slapping down dishonesty and ignorance to be a pleasant way to kill time.
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            • Author by bilbo_dies (November 26, 2009 11:04 am ET)
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              You realize that you are trying to reason with a moldy brick, don't you?

              Well, you can hope that the mold hasn't penetrated too far and that they are actually open to debate. Unfortuneately, that isn't usually the case.

              I have found out that when you have a "discussion" with someone, you can usually tell right up front if the are open minded enough to listen to you. If they aren't I usually don't even bother.

              If I want to waste my time, I might was well talk to the wall.
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              • Author by vaberinger (November 26, 2009 11:42 am ET)
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                Entertaining thread, everyone! I know it is very hard for some to imagine, but when I open the door to my fridge and leave it open to fill it with turkey leftovers, I am actually contributing to global WARMING, not cooling!
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        • Author by jshipley53615 (November 26, 2009 11:36 am ET)
             
          This is probably the only instance I can ever recall that a forrest fire would be a good thing.
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    • Author by ptluzzi (November 26, 2009 8:30 am ET)
         
      This guy wouldnt know the truth if it was standing right in front of him!
      this guy is all about MONEY period. is there were people on the left willing to give this lier more money he would say the complete opposite.
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    • Author by sang (November 26, 2009 2:52 pm ET)
         
      the Emails hacked from Global warming so call Scientists has placed serious doubt on any data you may claim to be fact.
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    • Author by Alexander Hamilton (November 26, 2009 6:00 pm ET)
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      It was colder today than yesterday, global warming is obviously a hoax. I win.
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    • Author by truthseeker77 (November 27, 2009 9:08 am ET)
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      Misinformer of the year 2009. Who should it be? Hannity? Limbaugh? Beck? I'd give it to Hannity and Beck. A tie.
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    • Author by PurpleState (November 28, 2009 11:17 am ET)
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      I'm not even going to bother anymore with climate change deniers anymore. There are still a handful of people out there that believe in the absurd and deny any prooof otherwise.

      I'd rather argue with a dining room table.
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