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CNN's Howard Kurtz: Fox Statement About Misreporting Health Care Ruling "Sounds Orwellian To Me. They Got It Wrong"

July 01, 2012 12:56 pm ET

From the July 1 edition of CNN's Reliable Sources:

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    • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 01, 2012 1:05 pm ET)
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      Nah,the scripts on fox news are more L.Ron Hubbard than George Orwell........
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    • Author by Bongo Fury (July 01, 2012 1:06 pm ET)
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      In other words..We were wrong and CNN is still trying to attain the low jornalistic standards of FOX. They were wronger."
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      • Author by blk-in-alabam (July 01, 2012 1:30 pm ET)
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        While CNN is soooo busy trying to be like fox news,they still have not figured out what is going on......CNN has news bureaus all over the place ...Fox news has very few......Fox news gets their news off of the internet,twist,and wring out the truth before presenting it to their viewers............Fox news got it wrong,because they were getting the news off the internet from CNN like they always do.....
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        • Author by mary59 (July 01, 2012 3:51 pm ET)
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          Howard Kurtz emphasizes how they "regretted" the initial reporting but guess we'll be passing out if we hold our breath waiting for him to acknowledge the importance of getting the story right before you try to report it.

          It's not possible to wait because someone else might report first? What a sorry group-think mindset.
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    • Author by grmce (July 01, 2012 1:41 pm ET)
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      It was a simple error: they didn't read the judgement. Simple but STUPID.

      Read the bloody thing through to the end, where judges write their determination. Every first-bloody-year law student knows that judges invariably go through all the stuff they're not relying on and why before they get to the actual determination.

      STUPID!!!
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      • Author by Conchobhar (July 01, 2012 2:01 pm ET)
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        Journalists race to get it first, and get it right. The journalist is non-existent at Fox, going extinct at CNN, and endangered everywhere else.
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        • Author by MickD (July 01, 2012 5:54 pm ET)
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          No corporation pays for a reporter. They pay for a mouthpiece.
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          • Author by Dem02020 (July 01, 2012 6:16 pm ET)
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            That's the highest financial value that the so-called "news divisions" of these several global media companies that dominate our television media have, the value of public relations and commercial advertising and even lobbying.

            And public relations and lobbying, effectively a political lobbying of the American people, that's what we see in truth, every time we see and read a Media Matters' citation of those broadcasters, true?

            Aren't they the broadcasters always doing that, isn't that News Corp's Fox News Channel true mission, to politically lobby the American people, and (whenever there's a difference) to serve as public relations for one or another industry or commercial interest?

            True, they don't employ reporters, they employ mouthpieces and spokespersons and lobbyists.

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    • Author by Nihilist (July 01, 2012 2:14 pm ET)
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      fox is an orwellian wet dream... but didnt you hear today from lord murdoch about rMoney? yo uncle rupert, if you feel that way, get your boy darth ailes, to stop the constant lies, it aint about ideology is it there newscorpse? its about bucks, thats why you have fox latino with one message and foxnation for the klan...
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      • Author by danielsangeo (July 01, 2012 3:09 pm ET)
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        When I first started getting into politics, I watched the cartoon version of Animal Farm. It struck me how similar the way the pigs were acting to the way that I saw Republicans acting and I was floored when I found out that Animal Farm was an allegory exposing the corruption in Communism.

        To this day, when the animals look into the farm house to see the pigs interacting with the humans and they couldn't tell which were the humans and which were the pigs, I am struck by how similar the pigs in Animal Farm are to the modern neo-conservative movement.
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        • Author by Maimonides 03 (July 01, 2012 6:22 pm ET)
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          Orwell was actually paid to write Animal Farm...and he disliked Stalinism and the form of communism he enforced.

          What most people fail to realize is Orwell was a staunch socialist. He was very critical of his own side. When I read Animal Farm and 1984 and his orther works, the main thread I find is he opposed tyrants and ideologues.

          Beck use to rant about Saul Alinsky, but Beck used all of Alinsky's tactics. The right are always critical of the idea of big brother, but then they enact legislation that would make the Ministry of Truth envious. If you dress up tyranny or totalitarian ideas with terms like freedom and liberty it is still tyranny.
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          • Author by MickD (July 01, 2012 9:14 pm ET)
               
            I wish just once...ONCE...I would hear that in a speech from the opposing party, I don't care if its a Dem or a Libertarian or the Druid party...just say it. Thanks Maimon...
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    • Author by nerzog (July 01, 2012 3:07 pm ET)
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      Howard, apparently, is still laboring under the delusion that FOX "News" wants to be a legitimate News Network.
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      • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© (July 01, 2012 3:15 pm ET)
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        Howard Kurtz is no babe in the woods.

        His job depends on his maintenance of that delusion.
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    • Author by CAL (July 01, 2012 4:35 pm ET)
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      I'm mildly encouraged FOXPAC seems to be getting called out more often lately for their inaccuracies and blatant deception. Now it's time to really turn up the heat. FOXPAC should be treated like a cancerous tumour.
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      • Author by nerzog (July 01, 2012 5:09 pm ET)
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        I've often pondered here why the real News Networks don't expose FOX for the cesspool that it is and drive it out of business. FOX only dilutes what little journalistic integrity remains in broadcast journalism; why the others tolerate this poser is beyond me.

        They must perceive some benefit to having a phony "News" outlet in the mix.

        Or Rupert has dirt on all the Network CEOs.
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        • Author by MickD (July 01, 2012 5:55 pm ET)
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          Nah, FoxNoose allows the other nets to be as lax, and say, "well, at least we aren't FoxNoose."
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          • Author by ifthethunderdontgetya™³²®© (July 01, 2012 7:38 pm ET)
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            I was about to say the same.

            FAUX is so outrageously right-wing, the rest of them can lie their behinds off in favor of the plutocracy and still appear "mainstream" or even "lefty" by comparison.
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        • Author by Dem02020 (July 01, 2012 6:00 pm ET)
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          It could be that they're all in the same business, they're all privately-owned and operated (and there may be more common or cross ownership among them than we know), they're all bad, it's just that some are worse than others... and that News Corp's Fox News Channel, in addition to being worse than the others, is also more bold about it, they're even brazen, true?

          Which of the television or cable broadcasters even once questioned (especially after the fact) the false or falsified intelligence that impelled the Bush administration's invasion and occupation of Iraq?

          Which of those broadcasters even once mentioned US National Security as being absent from any rationale for that invasion and occupation (the defense of the American people being the only true justification for such military actions), which of them ever spoke about Iraq in terms of US National Security?

          And on this current topic, which of the television broadcasters ever once talks about the US's world's highest health care costs (by far) and how that is the crux and origin of our "health care crisis" (think about it, pure and simple and exclusively, costs are our problem in this issue), who among the broadcasters ever talks about that?

          The answer to all these questions and myriad others like them, is NONE, none of the broadcasters cover anything remotely important or even truthfully, regarding US national policy.

          And in the current example, it's nothing but "Obamacare" and "death panels" and sarah palin and non-existent tax increases and political horse-race talk, the broadcasters in question never NEVER talk about our world's highest health care costs by far...

          And this, despite the fact that the problem and the attempted solution is right there in the title of the bill that they the broadcasters prattle on so worthlessly and emptily about, America's Affordable Health Choices Act of 2009...

          Affordable.

          That's the problem, this is the problem, and not only Fox but ABC and NBC and CBS and CNN too, they talk about the truth of the problem, about as much as they talked about the false or falsified Bush administration intelligence that cost us trillions of dollars and thousands of lives, and how none of that blood or treasury was in the name of US National Security or in defense of even a single American.

          They're all bad is what I mean to say.

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          • Author by Dem02020 (July 01, 2012 6:31 pm ET)
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            This is actually the better link to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, which again has it right there in the title, Affordable, which addresses the actual national policy problem, a real and serious problem that every single television broadcaster manages somehow to strangely ignore.

            A problem better explained here, than anywhere and at any time on television.
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            • Author by eweston8542983 (July 01, 2012 9:01 pm ET)
                 
              Excellent study there, some very informative numbers. Meadow might bring it up. I can't think of any other MSM talking head bothering our pretty little heads about it.
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    • Author by reriding (July 01, 2012 4:53 pm ET)
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      I took SCOTUSBlog writers a whole minute to skim to the end and get their report right. Maybe CNN and FOX should hire a few real lawyers for these occasions?
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      • Author by danielsangeo (July 01, 2012 11:22 pm ET)
           
        I think the problem here is that both CNN and Fox News were so desperate to be "first" to report the ruling that they leapt onto the very first thing they heard, thinking it would be a nice neat little package they can blurt out before the other guy says it.
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    • Author by truthurts (July 01, 2012 8:10 pm ET)
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      I saw this whole segment when it aired and it was disappointing that Kurtz made it seem like the mistakes that Fox and CNN made were equivalent when in fact CNN kept "analyzing" the wrong decision for 7 minutes while fox caught their mistake in 2 minutes. So the fact that Fox didn't apologize and CNN did could just be due to the fact that CNN made a much bigger mistake than Fox did.

      That being said I think that this really damages CNN way more than Fox because they have an actual reputation to uphold while fox doesn't really pride itself on being accurate.
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      • Author by steeve (July 02, 2012 12:08 am ET)
           
        "they have an actual reputation to uphold"

        Which is sad. Anyone who admits to watching CNN to "get informed" should be laughed out of the room. How can people know that WWE isn't real but still be confused by this?
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    • Author by steeve (July 02, 2012 12:01 am ET)
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      Kurtz probably gets a tooth pulled for every fact that manages to crawl out of his mouth. But he still has lots of teeth left.

      Is there any more self-loathing scum than a beltway media critic? Your whole profession is burning down around you, and it's your job to see the finer nuances of that, yet you're forbidden from seeing it at all.
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