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On Fox, Mark Levin Claims Individual Mandate Is "Greatest Threat" To Government-Individual Relationship "Since Segregation"

June 27, 2012 4:47 pm ET

From the June 27 edition of Fox News' Your World with Neil Cavuto:

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Previously:

Fox's Varney: Individual Mandate "Sums Up The Whole Ethic" Of Obama Administration, Which Is "Pushing People Around"

Doocy Decides: "We've Argued On This Program" That The Individual Mandate Is "Against The Law"

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    • Author by nixter (June 27, 2012 4:54 pm ET)
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      doesn't mark levin represent the lollipop guild ?
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      • Author by Andy Kreiss (June 27, 2012 5:28 pm ET)
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        Yeah, the local Drama Queen chapter. How do these FrootLoops live their lives in this constant state of maximum hysteria and hyperbole?
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        • Author by phlcstgan (June 27, 2012 5:36 pm ET)
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          "Why are we out of milk?! This unconscionable seizure of private foodstuffs is proof that we're becoming a third-world dictatorship! They'll come for our guns next, and then they'll come for us! WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!!!!!!"
          "For f-ck's sake, Mark, just go buy some more."
          "Oh, so you think I should be FORCED to buy some more, huh? You know who ELSE thought people should have to go somewhere they didn't want to?!!!!"
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    • Author by danielsangeo (June 27, 2012 4:56 pm ET)
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      Individual mandate? You mean, the right wing creation?
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      • Author by magnolialover (June 27, 2012 7:08 pm ET)
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        They really do keep forgetting about that whole thing don't they? I also love the constant wheel spinning by Mittens on this one. The federal bill is almost verbatim a copy of his, but now, he HATES it! Even though it's been a big success in MA.
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        • Author by Chameo (June 27, 2012 8:21 pm ET)
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          Yeah, but see, we're SPECIAL here in MA. We keep voting Democrat, so we DESERVE to be forced to buy health insurance. He also conveniently forgets to note that the only parts of the MA health care bill he objected to were the parts that forced insurance companies to spend a specific percentage of premiums on health care. THOSE were imposed after he left office -- and are the reason that the health care legislation that looked like it was going to bankrupt the state has instead brought premiums down and made health care less expensive.
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          • Author by magnolialover (June 28, 2012 8:51 am ET)
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            Nice.

            I have a cousin who is a wingnut, and on occassion he posts stuff on Facebook about hating Obama for this, and or that. The other day he had a big picture up there saying something like, "This guy (arrow pointing to his name) hates Obamacare".

            I asked him simply, "Why?"

            He responded essentially with, nothing. He hates it because it's stupid.

            Wingnut reasoning laid out bare. Another one of his friends told me she doesn't HAVE to have a reason to hate Obamacare, she just does, it's ridiculous. I don't care if you hate it, or think it a bad law, but tell me why.
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    • Author by MiniTru (June 27, 2012 5:01 pm ET)
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      I thought the GOP was in favor of segregation.
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      • Author by anotherGDlefty (June 27, 2012 5:19 pm ET)
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        They also used to be in favor of the individual mandate...until the blahhh guy put it out there.

        That is the most maddening thing about the ACA, it's their damn plan.
        At least it was.
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        • Author by dogbreath (June 27, 2012 5:55 pm ET)
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          Until it wasn't.

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        • Author by Chameo (June 27, 2012 8:24 pm ET)
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          At least that part of it was their idea. It's the other parts of the bill they hate -- the parts that fund more health clinics, make it easier for students who go into primary care to pay off their student loans, reallocate money that's not being used by the big medical schools so it can be used by smaller teaching hospitals and make the insurance companies actually be accountable to the people who pay them premiums.
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      • Author by wookie (June 27, 2012 7:17 pm ET)
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        They were; states rights vs the big bad federal government and all that.
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (June 27, 2012 8:59 pm ET)
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          If somehow Romney wins, you know how many times we'll hear Republicans talk about states rights for the next four years.

          ZERO
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        • Author by foghornleghorn (June 27, 2012 9:01 pm ET)
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          If somehow Romney wins, you know how many times we'll hear Republicans talk about states rights for the next four years.

          ZERO
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      • Author by joeybagofdonuts (June 28, 2012 8:03 am ET)
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        Yeah I couldn't really tell from the way Levin framed that argument if he meant segregation (which was enforced by states) was an infringement of the "gov't-individual relationship," or the federal repeal of segregation through Brown v. Board and the Civil Rights Act was the infringement.

        Personally I think he left it vague enough for the Fox racists who thought the federal repeal of Jim Crow laws was a gross overstep of constitutional power (the same folks who call Obama every dirty word in the book except the n-word).

        What do you all think?
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        • Author by curiousindependent (June 28, 2012 10:55 am ET)
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          the same folks who call Obama every dirty word in the book except the n-word
          I am a big honkin' white guy, and with my close-cropped hair and obvious age, apparently folks just tend to assume that I am a racist. Trust me, they use the n-word. Frequently. And they are shocked when I call them out on it.
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        • Author by notsure5 (June 28, 2012 5:32 pm ET)
             
          I'll go with the latter. Considering that both of them involved the Supreme Court's decision, and their fan base. Oh, and that it's OK for states to do whatever the heck they want (aka state's rights, 10th ammendment).

          And he left it vague on purpose to avoid being called a racist. Because, as we all know, pointing out racism is the actual racism.
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      • Author by curiousindependent (June 28, 2012 10:52 am ET)
           
        I thought the GOP was in favor of segregation.
        He mis-spoke.
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    • Author by Maimonides 03 (June 27, 2012 5:01 pm ET)
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      Everything President Obama does is a threat according to the right. Pick any topic and they frame it as an assualt on America:

      -healthcare reform is socialism, or government take over.
      -contraception on health insurance is an assault on religious freedoms
      -dream act is going to flood America with undocumented aliens.

      On a side topic, did anyone see the republican apologize to Diamond from JP Morgan when he testified? Does anyone remember the republican who apologized to the BP CEO when he had to testify?

      I thought they argued that President Obama was the guy who was apologizing all the time.
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      • Author by dogbreath (June 27, 2012 5:58 pm ET)
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        OT- Just have to share this POS with you all. I have been monitoring the fires here in Colorado all day - the Waldo not being too far away from my childhood home.

        http://www.gazette.com/opinion/obama-140889-edge-rages.html
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      • Author by mjh (June 28, 2012 11:10 am ET)
           
        "I thought they argued that President Obama was the guy who was apologizing all the time."


        Yeah -- but, that's only during the times he's not

        - an "incompetent man-child", or
        - a "wannabe dictator"

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    • Author by marco21 (June 27, 2012 5:02 pm ET)
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      LOL.

      Everything President Black Man does is the greatest threat to whatever they're talking about. Everything is also a constitutional crisis, his Katrina, his Watergate, etc.

      Fox News is just hilariously crazy, but sadly, our "liberal" media refuses to report on the obvious propaganda that's ruining journalism and our country.
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    • Author by MiG (June 27, 2012 5:03 pm ET)
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      Government putting an end to segregation is considered a great threat to Government-Individual Relationship? WTH?
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      • Author by MsYellowDog (June 27, 2012 5:59 pm ET)
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        But he didn't SAY anything about "government putting an end to segregation," did he? He just compared the individual mandate to segregation.How was segregation a threat to government-individual relationship? Seems to me it was only threatening to the people who were not allowed to participate.They are all just speaking nothing but nonsense these days,and trying to justify the unjustifiable.
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (June 27, 2012 5:07 pm ET)
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      Mark Levin?

      What happened was Cmdr Pill Popper too busy with his Dominican "staff" (allegedly) to let FOXPAC kiss his @$$?
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    • Author by shaggles (June 27, 2012 5:17 pm ET)
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      I wonder if he was saying this back in the 1990's when the Republicans first proposed it? I hate the Republican Mandate as much as the next guy but I understand the reason for it. A much easier way to fix it would be to add a public option to the health care reform package.
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      • Author by Virgil_Kane (June 27, 2012 7:09 pm ET)
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        They were all for the mandate when Newt and the heritage foundation was peddling it.
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      • Author by curiousindependent (June 28, 2012 11:05 am ET)
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        The BEST way to fix health care would be to simply put everyone on Medicare. Let big insurance find another scam to make money on. I don't remember anyone crying about the abacus companies when TI made them obsolete.

        Another thing that needs to be done is a heavy rein on the pharmaceutical companies.

        Apparently my testosterone level is low, and my doctor prescribed a gel to correct that. My insurance company is making me jump through flaming hoops before they will approve it (apparently it can be used "recreationally", unlike the codeine I was prescribed last month when I nearly broke my hip)and it will take about 90 days for that decision to be made (death panels, anyone?). Without insurance coverage, a 30 day supply costs 400 bucks.

        Apparently the LEGAL drug dealers make even more than the illegal ones.
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        • Author by curiousindependent (June 28, 2012 1:49 pm ET)
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          UPDATE:

          So my doctor's office called me this morning and informed me that a local "compounding" pharmacy (a pharmacy capable of actually mixing drugs on-site) can provide me with the very same medication as the $400.00 one, without any insurance intervention, for $45.00.

          I am extremely curious to know how it is that a single-outlet pharmacy can provide the exact same medication as the huge pharmaceutical corporation, at just a hair over 1/10th the cost.

          Might have something to do with not having a CEO and countless other executives each raking in millions of dollars in salary.
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    • Author by Jimijams (June 27, 2012 5:17 pm ET)
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      Come on Mark, don't pull any punches there, tell it like it is. It is the greatest threat to the entire human race since Pol Pot's Killing Fields, Hitler's gas chambers, Stalin's Gulag prisons, and Mao's death march forced starvation combined.
      In fact I would go as far to say that it just might kill 8.9 billion people, or the equivalent number of people attending Glenn Beck's Restoring Fear Rally.
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      • Author by dazednamused (June 27, 2012 7:21 pm ET)
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        Justin Bieber is a bigger threat to this nation than the individual mandate.
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    • Author by nerzog (June 27, 2012 5:18 pm ET)
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      And it was a Heritage Foundation Idea. Imagine that.

      Lawrence O'Donnell had a really good segment on the "Mandate" last night. According to him, and he read from the actual bill, the Mandate is pretty much toothless, since it provides for no enforcement of the small fine that would be imposed on those who refused to buy insurance.

      So, the bottom line is that all this Troglodyte hand wringing is nothing more than Puppet Theater.
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      • Author by shaggles (June 27, 2012 6:34 pm ET)
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        "So, the bottom line is that all this Troglodyte hand wringing is nothing more than Puppet Theater."

        Is it ever?
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      • Author by curiousindependent (June 28, 2012 11:07 am ET)
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        I am all for the removal of the mandate. But if they do, and someone refuses to participate, that person should be required to have cash on hand to pay for any medical treatment they require, or be left out on the sidewalk.
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        • Author by curiousindependent (June 28, 2012 1:51 pm ET)
             
          Care to explain your opposition to that idea, thumber? You either participate with the rest of us or you don't.

          I thought you guys LIKED the idea that if you are too cheap to buy into the meal, don't expect to share the food.

          GOPpers truly ARE stupid, aren't they?
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (June 27, 2012 5:19 pm ET)
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      And another thing:

      Isn't it great that FOXPAC gets such an unbiased pundit to discuss the topic of health care?

      *sarc*

      BTW, Mark Levin worked as cheif of staff for Edwin Meese under Ronald Reagan around the same time that "Iran Contra" was taking place (you know when Reagan first used his alzheimers as a defense "I don't remember that")
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      • Author by nerzog (June 27, 2012 5:34 pm ET)
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        Levin is typical of the Hate Radio Screechmonkeys. He's an obnoxious bully who lies like a rug. These people are despicable.
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        • Author by magnolialover (June 27, 2012 7:12 pm ET)
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          He's also the king of silly 5th grade nicknames for everyone he disagrees with.
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    • Author by phlcstgan (June 27, 2012 5:34 pm ET)
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      Lulz, they're pretending their side was anti-segregation?
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      • Author by nerzog (June 27, 2012 5:35 pm ET)
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        I think a significant number of them would like to see it restored.
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    • Author by Spooky Dooooooooood (June 27, 2012 6:10 pm ET)
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      This is the same argument they will use to try to get rid of Medicare too.
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    • Author by Spooky Dooooooooood (June 27, 2012 6:19 pm ET)
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      When Neil Cavuto grows up he's going to be just like Dick Morris.
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    • Author by bootyprof (June 27, 2012 6:56 pm ET)
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      The irony that racist Dixiecrats now form the backbone of the modern Republican Party is almost too much to bear...
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    • Author by Dem02020 (June 27, 2012 7:17 pm ET)
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      On Fox, Mark Levin Claims Individual Mandate Is "Greatest Threat" To Government-Individual Relationship "Since Segregation"

      That seems a strange and strained equation to make, between the individual mandate and desegregation (and without listening to the video clip, I can only guess that instead of "segregation" the guy meant desegregation).

      I wonder how long it took to come up with that bizarre equation.

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    • Author by MerrillFrank (June 28, 2012 2:13 am ET)
         
      Levin is a big supporter of Israel, basically a quasi-socialist country where they have a national health insurance system. It consists of an employer mandate where employers put money into an insurance fund for their employees. All 8 million of it's citizens are covered. As they would say on Fox aka the Cavuto "Why does Mark Levin hate America?"
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