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Fox's Camerota Falsely Labels Immigration Policy Change An Executive Order To Criticize Obama

June 16, 2012 12:32 pm ET

From the June 16 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends Saturday:

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Previously:

Exercising Prosecutorial Discretion Is Different From Issuing An Executive Order

Right-Wing Bloggers Falsely Suggest Immigration Policy Change Is Lawless

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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (June 16, 2012 12:41 pm ET)
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      And, of course, Cmdr Pill Popper comes out of the gate totally lying about the policy and then the morons at FOXPAC double down on the lie since they know their viewers will believe them becaus they don't have the combined intelligence of a bowl of cherry Jell-O
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      • Author by Bronwyn (June 16, 2012 5:14 pm ET)
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        Exactly. Cmdr Pill Popper
        The regime today told the border agents if you catch young illegals let em go and grant em work permits. No more deportation of illegal immigrants they are to be given work permits and they can stay in the country.


        What a lying POS not only were the border agents not told any such thing. Halting the deportation does not GIVE immigrants an automatic "work Permit- a Tax payer ID Card or guarantee of citizenship. It gives them a chance to APPLY for a "Stay of Deportation Or Removal" and each applicant has to submit a nonrefundable - regardless of action taken - fee of $155.00 in U.S. cash - cashiers check or money order - made out to "Department Of Homeland Security" (The DHS estimates that about 800,000 young immigrants will file such applications) And a separate application WITH a separate fee, for a work permit "Taxpayer ID Card".

        That means there will be a case by case review of each applicant and a guaranteed whole lot of revenue for the U.S. from the nonrefundable fees paid with each application. Funny the right never mentions that.

        In contrast to the $12,500 estimate cost for arresting and deporting each illegal immigrant from the U.S. according to Kumar Kibble ICE Deputy Director.
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        • Author by Bronwyn (June 16, 2012 5:43 pm ET)
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          I swear I hit save one time! One time! Why are each of these two minutes apart? When I left the thread there was one post. MMFA PLEASE!
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          • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (June 16, 2012 6:29 pm ET)
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            The site is unstable today. It just took 3 attempts for me to post anything at all on another thread.
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            • Author by Bronwyn (June 17, 2012 1:17 am ET)
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              No wonder the site is deader than heaven on a Saturday night. ;>)

              I keep getting kicked off, takes for ever to get back on, can't pull up most of the threads and I can't even give anyone a thumbs up.

              I thought maybe you were on vacation haven't seen many posts of yours lately. Maybe I'm just missing them?
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              • Author by Soulfader72 (June 17, 2012 4:14 am ET)
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                For what Soro's pumps into this place, you'd think they cow;d get better servers.
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                  • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (June 17, 2012 6:15 am ET)
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                    You must feel downright giddy now that you got all that off your chest. You figured all that out by yourself, huh?

                    Glenn Beck gets 100 million dollar contract for spouting that same kind of addled, paranoid nonsense. It is a shame you get to do it for free.

                    Now you can move on and scribble your bombast on some restroom walls and call yourself a blogger.
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                    • Author by aturingtest (June 17, 2012 11:01 am ET)
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                      I wonder if our friend "tadanoichi" would agree that the internment of the "brown men" living on the West Coast during WWII was ok by his standards, since evidently, by those standards, the deportation of today's "brown men" is.
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                      • Author by tadanoichi1964 (June 17, 2012 11:19 am ET)
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                        So we have set the wayback machine to WWII?

                        This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Obama bypassing Congress to change laws he doesn't like.

                        Nice deflection. King Obama would let you kiss his feet for that one.
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                        • Author by aturingtest (June 17, 2012 11:37 am ET)
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                          Did I hit a nerve there, tad? No, the question is whether your standards, today, would allow the same justification for one as for the other. It's just a question, man- try answering it without deflection- I doubt anybody's gonna let you kiss their feet for it.
                          And, as has been pointed out, prosecutorial discretion is not "bypassing Congress." The executive branch has latitude in its application of law to folks who have, after all, not committed any crime to begin with. The executive has always used that discretion- do I need to say "Reagan and Iran-Contra"? His "enforcing" of OSHA and EPA? You can spin it any way you like, until you're blue in the face, but it won't change the fact that that's part of the job. We didn't like it then, you don't have to like it now. Just lump it.
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                          • Author by tadanoichi1964 (June 17, 2012 5:19 pm ET)
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                            So let me get this straight.

                            The immigration laws as they were written will not be enforced because Obama has decided not to enforce them.

                            So now ONE MAN determines what laws will be enforced and which ones will be ignored?
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                            • Author by aturingtest (June 17, 2012 6:18 pm ET)
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                              Boy, you are a one-note song, aren't you? Your question has been answered- repeatedly- and I'm very sorry you don't like the answer, but, it is what it is. So- ready to man up and answer the question you've been avoiding? Aside from your obsessional hatred of the Prez and all his works, which so causes you to fill your diaper- is the policy change Obama announced "the right thing to do" or not (keeping in mind the comparison with the internment of the Japanese in WWII based on the same sort of prejudice)?
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                              • Author by tadanoichi1964 (June 17, 2012 8:58 pm ET)
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                                I want to type it out.

                                "It's just fine with me that the President, by himself, without consulting Congress, can determine what laws will be enforced and which ones won't."

                                This is what it boils down to. Not your liberal coffee house gibberish like "prosecutorial discretion".

                                You intellectual cowards like to newspeak your way around what this really is, rule by decree by the president.

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                                • Author by aturingtest (June 17, 2012 9:12 pm ET)
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                                  Keep singing that one note, tad- whatever makes you happy. But I think it's a little cowardly of you to keep avoiding a simple question.
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                            • Author by Bronwyn (June 17, 2012 6:37 pm ET)
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                              Halting the deportation does not change immigration laws.
                              It doesn't give anyone immunity
                              It doesn't give anyone amnesty
                              It doesn't grant anyone citizenship
                              It doesn't grant anyone the right to vote
                              It doesn't grant anyone permanent lawful status

                              It allows individuals that meet all the criteria eligible to receive a deferred action for a period of two years and eligible to apply for a Tax Payer ID Card

                              Not all "illegal immigrants" are eligible. But all fees submitted with each application are non-refundable. That amounts to a lot of revenue for the U.S. there is an estimated 800,000 applications expected.

                              Also this will take time USCIS and ICE expect to begin implication of the application processes within 60 days. Each application will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis.

                              Is this simple enough for you to understand?

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                              • Author by aturingtest (June 17, 2012 8:09 pm ET)
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                                Bronwyn, for some reason our friend tad reminds me of a cartoon I remember seeing long ago (in the 70's or 80' or thereabouts, might have been in National Lampoon- I just don't remember (getting old- but not as old as congero, who, if I recall correctly a comment he made in a another thread recently, will be 60 tomorrow- remember to wish him happy b-day if you run across him):
                                Anyway- two goldfish in a bowl. One is a very unimpressed looking female (lipstick, curls in her fins, etc). The other is a panting-looking male, swimming in circles, saying to her," And that's not all I can do! I can sing, I can dance- I can fart underwater and beat the bubbles to the surface!"
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                                • Author by Bronwyn (June 18, 2012 3:50 am ET)
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                                  Aturi, thanks for the laugh and the Birthday heads up for Mr. Congero. I would never have guessed him to be older than I am. He has a young attitude.

                                  That tad is a sad, scary character and just one of many. I was invited to attended the OSU graduation on Sunday, was so disappointed that I couldn't make it because Michelle Obama was a commencement speaker. My friends that did attend said she was wonderful and someone taped it's live coverage on OPB for me. But the horrible comments being made about her on several sites do not only sicken me, they scare me the hate and racism is so strong. These are our fellow citizens with these thoughts, it's very depressing.

                                  Well on that happy note ha! I will tell you to have a great day. Okay? If this went through it was my third attempt. I'm sure each try got less brilliant. hee hee
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                                  • Author by aturingtest (June 18, 2012 7:24 am ET)
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                                    Bron- "That tad is a sad, scary character and just one of many."

                                    TBH, I'm getting a little uneasy about our friend- there's just something...not quite right here. I'm not a psychologist (nor do I play one on TV), and even if I were, it'd be ridiculous to analyze over the 'net, but, he's different than, say, Clouseau, who's just Dunning-Kruger gone wild, or highliter, who's just dull- tad takes this obsessional hatred of Mr Obama to new (for me) and kinda scary lengths. I won't play thread-nanny here, of course everyone can do as they see fit, but I've decided to no longer respond to him at all, even to downthumb him (which is something I don't do much of anyway). I don't think it's healthy for him that we keep feeding his frenzy; and, practically speaking, it's not doing any good anyway- it's not like he's actually listening to anyone, and he's certainly not responding in any actual, meaningful way. Might be best to just let the dog bark.
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                                    • Author by aturingtest (June 18, 2012 9:58 am ET)
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                                      In case anyone today is wondering who our imaginary friend "tad" is- MMfA has evidently decided that his comments over the weekend, here and on other threads, were abusive, non-responsive, and insubstantial in adding to the conversation (and most of them were). Compared to folks like Clouseau and highliter, he was getting downright foaming-at-the-mouth-rabid-dog scary. So, no, we're not lunatics talking to ourselves here- there really was a "tad."
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                            • Author by highlyunlikely (June 17, 2012 8:42 pm ET)
                                 
                              in which tad gets something crooked.
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                        • Author by danielsangeo (June 17, 2012 2:02 pm ET)
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                          Obama has not bypassed Congress nor has he changed any laws. Why don't you start taking responsibility for your actions, tadanoichi1964?
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                  • Author by aturingtest (June 17, 2012 7:56 am ET)
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                    In addition to the other inaccuracies in your comment, you guys are gonna have to get new meme to replace your old, worn-out "Carter- worst President ever!" thing. Here are some results from recent polls on that question (from here):

                    A Gallup poll of Nov 2010 says this about the two:

                    George W. Bush (47% approval/51% disapproval)
                    and
                    Jimmy Carter (52% approval/42% disapproval)

                    A Vision Critica//Angus Reid poll, taken in February, 2011, has this:

                    George W. Bush (30% approval/55% disapproval)
                    and
                    Jimmy Carter (47% approval/28% disapproval)

                    So, please get a new meme. This one just plain doesn't work anymore. Bush- worst President ever!

                    As for Romney "scuttling" this policy- ah, no. He apparently thinks it doesn't go far enough in the right direction (but then, who knows what Romney really thinks?):
                    "I believe the status of young people who came here through no fault of their own is an important matter to be considered and resolved on a long term basis so that they know what their future will be in this country. I think the actions the president took today make it more difficult to reach a long term solution because an executive order is, of course, just a short term matter than can be reversed by subsequent presidents."
                    He disagrees with the "executive order," but not, evidently, the solution it proposes.
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                    • Author by Johaely (June 17, 2012 10:26 am ET)
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                      You just pointed out a fact about the Bush administration. Get ready for more flailing and screams of "BLAME BUSH!"
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                  • Author by The_Cat (June 17, 2012 12:36 pm ET)
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                    Basically they flipped off Congress & the Constitution knowing that Judenrat Soros & the rest of the liberal-socialist lickspittle media would fall all over themselves backing him up.

                    Flagged as obscene, troll.
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                • Author by aturingtest (June 17, 2012 7:10 am ET)
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                  And for what the Kochs and Roger Ailes pumps into Fox, you'd think they could get better "servers" than Camerota, Gutfeld, Bolling, Hannity, Doucy, etc. (See? I can use memes too!)
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                  • Author by Soulfader72 (June 17, 2012 12:34 pm ET)
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                    I'm not trying to use a meme. I'm a fan of the site, and I just pointed out that for the millions he gives, they could put it into better servers.
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                    • Author by Johaely (June 17, 2012 12:48 pm ET)
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                      Soros has only made like one donation. The right is the one that makes it seem that Soros actively funds the site. Not trying to sound patronizing, but the fact that you were misinformed about it proves how infectious the right's propaganda is.
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                    • Author by aturingtest (June 17, 2012 1:11 pm ET)
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                      Soulfader: ok, point taken. But you must see that, as Johaely points out, what you're saying is pretty hard to distinguish from right-wing propaganda.
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              • Author by aBeck in 10-O-C (June 17, 2012 6:48 am ET)
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                Not posting much lately. One of my "what's the point" phases. I had a decent "bodda-boom" mood today, but the site keeps crashing my browser, even now, and wiping my posts before I can finish anything.
                Hitting "save"...wish me luck.
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                • Author by Bronwyn (June 18, 2012 3:11 am ET)
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                  Well darn this site for putting a damper on your "boddaboom" mood!

                  But I understand the "what's the point" phases. Like above when I take the time to type a thoughtful post and include links to debunk Rush's lies, and post it not only once but THREE times. LOL! And immediately tad comes along and proves he didn't comprehend a single word of it. What ya gonna do?

                  I will wish you luck for all of us that you haven't lost your "boddaboom" by the time the site is running properly.
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        • Author by aturingtest (June 16, 2012 9:23 pm ET)
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          Absolutely right, Bron- this is infuriating. Limbaugh has to know that what he's saying is an out-and-out lie, that no border agents were give any such directives. Five minutes of checking would show Rush the details of the requirements you list- but that's five minutes he won't take; and the most infuriating thing is, all those Rushbots listening will be running around like headless chickens repeating his lies as gospel, because they certainly won't take that five minutes either. And you'd better believe Rush knows this. There has got to be something that can be done about such deliberate misinformation- I know it's just an "opinion" show, but one that so deliberately lies so often must be subject to some kind of standard of truthfulness. (Ok, I know it's not; I'm just ranting a little)

          For your posting problems, Bron- yeah, it's been happening a lot lately here (in fact, it's happening to me right now- "preview" is freezing the site up on me). Here's what I recommend- harsh language; the harsher the better. No, it won't actually fix the problem; but then, that's not what harsh language has ever been for.

          (Which reminds me of a Fawlty Towers episode with John Cleese. He was delivering a cake or something across town from his hotel, when the car he was driving (a little Mini-Cooper or something) broke down on him, apparently not for the first time. He leaps out of the car, and does the Cleese thing- tall, lanky guy, standing spraddle-legged and pointing at the car, shaking with rage, shouting, "Right! Right! I have told you, and told you about this- and now, you're going to get it!" At which point he looks wildly around, then strides out of camera shot for about thirty seconds or so, leaving the poor inoffensive looking little car sitting forlornly alone- and comes back with, not just a tree branch, but a whole small tree, and begins whaling away on the car, shouting the whole time. Try this with your computer.)
          Ok, not using "preview" here, hoping not too many typos.
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          • Author by Quicksilver M.S (June 16, 2012 9:39 pm ET)
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            .. "all those Rushbots and foxbots listening will be running around like headless chickens repeating his lies as gospel,"....
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            • Author by aturingtest (June 16, 2012 10:06 pm ET)
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              Sadly, that cartoon is too close to truth to be really funny.
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          • Author by aturingtest (June 16, 2012 10:01 pm ET)
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            In case anybody wants to see that Fawlty Towers clip...not quite as I remembered, but close.
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          • Author by aturingtest (June 16, 2012 10:02 pm ET)
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            In case anybody wants to see that Fawlty Towers clip...not quite as I remembered, but close.
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          • Author by Bronwyn (June 16, 2012 11:20 pm ET)
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            Aturingtes, as soon as I read your first post I pulled up Fawlty Towers and watched that clip. I would love to give Rush a "damn good dressing" with a tree branch. hee hee. I LOL when he called his car a vicious bastard.

            Then I couldn't get back on MMFA, grrrr, (more Greek for ya) so I watched more clips of FT. My Mama owned a small hotel, OMG the stories I could tell you about that place, it's staff and patrons, oh yeah and it's proprietor. Hee hee. She was a character!

            It is very sad that Rush's fans take him serious and repeat what they hear from his show as gospel. I've already received emails with the same type of rants. A dear friend of 32 years recently told me "I've been listening to Rush for twenty years not because I'm brainwashed but because I believe him." I don't know why she threw in brainwashed no one had mentioned it. And in every other way she seems so intelligent. Go figure. Anyway thanks for the laughs it was a nice break.
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            • Author by aturingtest (June 16, 2012 11:56 pm ET)
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              Veddy welcome. And, as you can see above, the glitch got me too. Gonna channel Catch-22 here: "I say everthing twice! I say everything twice!"
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              • Author by Bronwyn (June 18, 2012 3:00 am ET)
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                Funny you would say that, one of the old timers that hung out in my Mom's bar said every word twice "hi hi how how are are you you?" thankfully for the most part he was the strong silent type. LOL! He really was a sweet ole guy and one of the patrons that made the place colorful. :>)
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                • Author by aturingtest (June 18, 2012 7:30 am ET)
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                  Um...did you do that on purpose? OMG!!!!!1!!!!1!! This is gettin' weeeiiird!
                  "I say everything once! I say everything- oh, wait."
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    • Author by CAL (June 16, 2012 1:30 pm ET)
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      People need to wise up. "Conservatives" have nothing to offer on this or any issue as viable thoughtful solutions. Their only purpose is negativity and empty critique. The world has passed them by and left them behind with their incompetence. We can't allow "conservatism" to hold us back and keep us stuck.
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      • Author by aturingtest (June 16, 2012 11:11 pm ET)
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        Early this morning, I happened to catch a snippet of a local radio station "discussing Obamacare." The lady dominating the conversation used, as one of her arguments against it, that there is (apparently) a provision that you must have the insurance for six months before being eligible for the provision excluding pre-existing conditions as a way of denying coverage of those conditions (I'm taking her word for that). Her argument was that some folks with serious conditions simply can't wait that long: "someone with a heart condition could have a heart attack and die in those six months! This needs to be fixed!" Ok, fair enough, and she sounded so concerned with these folks, bless her tiny little heart. But her solution? "We need to repeal Obamacare! Scrap the whole thing and start all over again." I shouted (at the radio in the car- yeah, I know) "and how long do you think that will take, you moron?!" It really made me quite angry to hear this woman pretend a concern she didn't really feel, and propose a "solution" that made no sense in terms of her own "concern"; all so she could tear down something that could actually help address that (real) concern. These folks don't care about people, their problems, or the truth about them; their only concern is ideology, and using those people however they can to forward it. As you say- "negativity and empty critique."
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      • Author by aturingtest (June 18, 2012 8:49 am ET)
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        Speaking further of "conservatism holding us back"- I defy anyone with two brain cells to rub together to make any practical sense of just what Romney is actually and usefully saying here, about Mr Obama's policy change:
        Schieffer: Would you repeal this?
        Romney: Well, it would be overtaken by events if you will, by virtue of my putting in place a long-term solution, with legislation which creates law that relates to these individuals such that they know what their setting is going to be, not just for the term of a President but on a permanent basis.
        Schieffer: I won't keep on about this but just to make sure I understand, would you leave this in place while you worked out a long term solution or would you just repeal it?
        Romney: We'll look at that setting as we reach that, but my anticipation is I'd come into office and say we need to get this done, on a long-term basis, not this kind of stop-gap measure...

        (Romney then goes on to say that he thinks that, in effect, the whole thing is a result of political calculation by the President, as to how many votes he can gain by it. My personal feeling is that the only political calculation involved is in Mr Obama deciding that, heck, he's not going to get those far-right wingnuts that would oppose this anyway, so why not just go ahead and do the right thing? It's not how many votes he can gain, it's how many he's never gonna get anyway.)

        So, anyway- Mr Romney won't commit to repealing the policy (in fact he seems to agree with the idea behind it), and he thinks it needs further study; which raises the question- if you perhaps won't repeal it because you need to look at it more carefully- why didn't you do that before giving in to your knee-jerk reaction to just criticize it (without even really doing so)? Little political calculation there, maybe?

        And he goes on to say, about Iran, "I can assure you, if I'm President, the Iranians will have no question but that I would be willing to take military action if necessary to prevent them from becoming a nuclear threat to the world." Uh-huh. I think I hear a saber rattling, and the sound of christians singing "kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out."

        And you wanna hear something really funny? He actually plays the "I'm not a politician" card:

        "I'm really not a guy that's going for the next step in my political career. Bob, I don't have a political career. I served as governor for four years. I spent my life in the private sector."

        Riiiiiight. Except for that time in 1994 when you ran for the Senate against Ted Kennedy (and lost). And then, that whole "being governor" thing. Oh, and that time in 2008 when you ran for President (and lost). You don't have a particularly successful political career, that's true.
        New rule- if you're running for a political office, and have done so for the last 20 years or so, you're a politician.
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        • Author by CAL (June 18, 2012 11:24 am ET)
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          Great post. Romney and today's "conservatives" can only critisize from the sidelines. They haven't the slightest idea how to actually lead or govern. How anyone could support this empty suit for President is frankly frightening. Anytime we see Romney attempt to squirm his way through interviews, it's a vivid glimpse of how completely ridiculous he'll look trying to debate Obama. I can't wait for the carnage.
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          • Author by aturingtest (June 18, 2012 11:45 am ET)
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            Thanks, CAL. You know, I wouldn't mind so much Romney's carping on Mr Obama's "political calculation" in the policy change (after all, to a certain extent, it's true- but then, the Prez has never claimed not to be a politician; and in his job, that amount of calculation is probably inevitable and necessary), if it weren't for his hypocritical, mealy-mouthed insistence that he's not doing the same with his opposition to that change. What his "opposition" mounts to is entirely political- he says nothing at all about the basis for the policy change, except to imply that he agrees with it, and will work toward the same goal.
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    • Author by Quicksilver M.S (June 16, 2012 3:08 pm ET)
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      from the Smart guy to the right ,of the Skirt .
      " Lets be Honest , Congress is not Going to ANYTHING , up to Election Time"

      WOW !
      Dude, You mean to say that Congress is actually doing Work to improve America and not just Payed to sit on their @sses and Go on Break ?

      P.S
      Why ? Is it just Fine and Dandy for foxsweN to use ever word this President has spoken , from his first words to now, to Attack him.
      While ! Not mentioning when , their Candidate , TEAS-Guy ( the etch a sketch guy ) changes,reframes, shifts, alters,substitute,modify mutate and just all out reverse his Thinking/Mind.
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    • Author by grmce (June 16, 2012 3:29 pm ET)
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      Whilst it is reasonable to posit that this dimbo is lying through her teeth, we should not discount the possibility that she is as thick as pig sh!t.

      The quantum of misinformation and disinformation oozing from these characters is such that it has become nigh on impossible to distinguish between the two.
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (June 16, 2012 3:37 pm ET)
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        There are sites that show this dim bulb's legs. She is a fit with Fox's brand of female stereotyping..Blonde, leggy and stump dumb. Any body can lie.
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      • Author by Maimonides 03 (June 16, 2012 5:50 pm ET)
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        I think it is a combination sort of a "nature with nurture" that leads to FOX. You have to hahve the "right" dispoaition and then they will indoctrinate you properly.
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    • Author by minniemooch (June 16, 2012 3:41 pm ET)
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      Is the displaying of legs a contractual obligation for anchorwomen at Fox ?
      I ask...
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      • Author by wolf kotenberg (June 16, 2012 6:06 pm ET)
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        yes, and i often wonder what Ailes is telling his court jesters. I am sure the 20-35 year old males cannot get beyond the legs and smell the manure that comes out of their mouths. To remember
        s Camerota graduated Suma (um Laude and is reduced to bimboed legs for $$$$$$$$$$$$$
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (June 17, 2012 12:53 am ET)
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        I don't remember which comedian said it but..Why would I be a "leg man"? I have legs.
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        • Author by Bongo Fury (June 17, 2012 1:09 am ET)
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          {mind wanders} It was Seinfeld. I've successfully had a two stroke conversation with myself. Oh the elan and eclat.
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