Fox's Camerota Falsely Labels Immigration Policy Change An Executive Order To Criticize Obama
June 16, 2012 12:32 pm ET
From the June 16 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends Saturday:
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What a lying POS not only were the border agents not told any such thing. Halting the deportation does not GIVE immigrants an automatic "work Permit- a Tax payer ID Card or guarantee of citizenship. It gives them a chance to APPLY for a "Stay of Deportation Or Removal" and each applicant has to submit a nonrefundable - regardless of action taken - fee of $155.00 in U.S. cash - cashiers check or money order - made out to "Department Of Homeland Security" (The DHS estimates that about 800,000 young immigrants will file such applications) And a separate application WITH a separate fee, for a work permit "Taxpayer ID Card".
That means there will be a case by case review of each applicant and a guaranteed whole lot of revenue for the U.S. from the nonrefundable fees paid with each application. Funny the right never mentions that.
In contrast to the $12,500 estimate cost for arresting and deporting each illegal immigrant from the U.S. according to Kumar Kibble ICE Deputy Director.
I keep getting kicked off, takes for ever to get back on, can't pull up most of the threads and I can't even give anyone a thumbs up.
I thought maybe you were on vacation haven't seen many posts of yours lately. Maybe I'm just missing them?
Glenn Beck gets 100 million dollar contract for spouting that same kind of addled, paranoid nonsense. It is a shame you get to do it for free.
Now you can move on and scribble your bombast on some restroom walls and call yourself a blogger.
This has absolutely NOTHING to do with Obama bypassing Congress to change laws he doesn't like.
Nice deflection. King Obama would let you kiss his feet for that one.
And, as has been pointed out, prosecutorial discretion is not "bypassing Congress." The executive branch has latitude in its application of law to folks who have, after all, not committed any crime to begin with. The executive has always used that discretion- do I need to say "Reagan and Iran-Contra"? His "enforcing" of OSHA and EPA? You can spin it any way you like, until you're blue in the face, but it won't change the fact that that's part of the job. We didn't like it then, you don't have to like it now. Just lump it.
The immigration laws as they were written will not be enforced because Obama has decided not to enforce them.
So now ONE MAN determines what laws will be enforced and which ones will be ignored?
"It's just fine with me that the President, by himself, without consulting Congress, can determine what laws will be enforced and which ones won't."
This is what it boils down to. Not your liberal coffee house gibberish like "prosecutorial discretion".
You intellectual cowards like to newspeak your way around what this really is, rule by decree by the president.
It doesn't give anyone immunity
It doesn't give anyone amnesty
It doesn't grant anyone citizenship
It doesn't grant anyone the right to vote
It doesn't grant anyone permanent lawful status
It allows individuals that meet all the criteria eligible to receive a deferred action for a period of two years and eligible to apply for a Tax Payer ID Card
Not all "illegal immigrants" are eligible. But all fees submitted with each application are non-refundable. That amounts to a lot of revenue for the U.S. there is an estimated 800,000 applications expected.
Also this will take time USCIS and ICE expect to begin implication of the application processes within 60 days. Each application will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis.
Is this simple enough for you to understand?
Anyway- two goldfish in a bowl. One is a very unimpressed looking female (lipstick, curls in her fins, etc). The other is a panting-looking male, swimming in circles, saying to her," And that's not all I can do! I can sing, I can dance- I can fart underwater and beat the bubbles to the surface!"
That tad is a sad, scary character and just one of many. I was invited to attended the OSU graduation on Sunday, was so disappointed that I couldn't make it because Michelle Obama was a commencement speaker. My friends that did attend said she was wonderful and someone taped it's live coverage on OPB for me. But the horrible comments being made about her on several sites do not only sicken me, they scare me the hate and racism is so strong. These are our fellow citizens with these thoughts, it's very depressing.
Well on that happy note ha! I will tell you to have a great day. Okay? If this went through it was my third attempt. I'm sure each try got less brilliant. hee hee
TBH, I'm getting a little uneasy about our friend- there's just something...not quite right here. I'm not a psychologist (nor do I play one on TV), and even if I were, it'd be ridiculous to analyze over the 'net, but, he's different than, say, Clouseau, who's just Dunning-Kruger gone wild, or highliter, who's just dull- tad takes this obsessional hatred of Mr Obama to new (for me) and kinda scary lengths. I won't play thread-nanny here, of course everyone can do as they see fit, but I've decided to no longer respond to him at all, even to downthumb him (which is something I don't do much of anyway). I don't think it's healthy for him that we keep feeding his frenzy; and, practically speaking, it's not doing any good anyway- it's not like he's actually listening to anyone, and he's certainly not responding in any actual, meaningful way. Might be best to just let the dog bark.
A Gallup poll of Nov 2010 says this about the two:
George W. Bush (47% approval/51% disapproval)
and
Jimmy Carter (52% approval/42% disapproval)
A Vision Critica//Angus Reid poll, taken in February, 2011, has this:
George W. Bush (30% approval/55% disapproval)
and
Jimmy Carter (47% approval/28% disapproval)
So, please get a new meme. This one just plain doesn't work anymore. Bush- worst President ever!
As for Romney "scuttling" this policy- ah, no. He apparently thinks it doesn't go far enough in the right direction (but then, who knows what Romney really thinks?):
"I believe the status of young people who came here through no fault of their own is an important matter to be considered and resolved on a long term basis so that they know what their future will be in this country. I think the actions the president took today make it more difficult to reach a long term solution because an executive order is, of course, just a short term matter than can be reversed by subsequent presidents."
He disagrees with the "executive order," but not, evidently, the solution it proposes.
Flagged as obscene, troll.
Hitting "save"...wish me luck.
But I understand the "what's the point" phases. Like above when I take the time to type a thoughtful post and include links to debunk Rush's lies, and post it not only once but THREE times. LOL! And immediately tad comes along and proves he didn't comprehend a single word of it. What ya gonna do?
I will wish you luck for all of us that you haven't lost your "boddaboom" by the time the site is running properly.
For your posting problems, Bron- yeah, it's been happening a lot lately here (in fact, it's happening to me right now- "preview" is freezing the site up on me). Here's what I recommend- harsh language; the harsher the better. No, it won't actually fix the problem; but then, that's not what harsh language has ever been for.
(Which reminds me of a Fawlty Towers episode with John Cleese. He was delivering a cake or something across town from his hotel, when the car he was driving (a little Mini-Cooper or something) broke down on him, apparently not for the first time. He leaps out of the car, and does the Cleese thing- tall, lanky guy, standing spraddle-legged and pointing at the car, shaking with rage, shouting, "Right! Right! I have told you, and told you about this- and now, you're going to get it!" At which point he looks wildly around, then strides out of camera shot for about thirty seconds or so, leaving the poor inoffensive looking little car sitting forlornly alone- and comes back with, not just a tree branch, but a whole small tree, and begins whaling away on the car, shouting the whole time. Try this with your computer.)
Ok, not using "preview" here, hoping not too many typos.
Then I couldn't get back on MMFA, grrrr, (more Greek for ya) so I watched more clips of FT. My Mama owned a small hotel, OMG the stories I could tell you about that place, it's staff and patrons, oh yeah and it's proprietor. Hee hee. She was a character!
It is very sad that Rush's fans take him serious and repeat what they hear from his show as gospel. I've already received emails with the same type of rants. A dear friend of 32 years recently told me "I've been listening to Rush for twenty years not because I'm brainwashed but because I believe him." I don't know why she threw in brainwashed no one had mentioned it. And in every other way she seems so intelligent. Go figure. Anyway thanks for the laughs it was a nice break.
"I say everything once! I say everything- oh, wait."
(Romney then goes on to say that he thinks that, in effect, the whole thing is a result of political calculation by the President, as to how many votes he can gain by it. My personal feeling is that the only political calculation involved is in Mr Obama deciding that, heck, he's not going to get those far-right wingnuts that would oppose this anyway, so why not just go ahead and do the right thing? It's not how many votes he can gain, it's how many he's never gonna get anyway.)
So, anyway- Mr Romney won't commit to repealing the policy (in fact he seems to agree with the idea behind it), and he thinks it needs further study; which raises the question- if you perhaps won't repeal it because you need to look at it more carefully- why didn't you do that before giving in to your knee-jerk reaction to just criticize it (without even really doing so)? Little political calculation there, maybe?
And he goes on to say, about Iran, "I can assure you, if I'm President, the Iranians will have no question but that I would be willing to take military action if necessary to prevent them from becoming a nuclear threat to the world." Uh-huh. I think I hear a saber rattling, and the sound of christians singing "kill 'em all and let god sort 'em out."
And you wanna hear something really funny? He actually plays the "I'm not a politician" card:
Riiiiiight. Except for that time in 1994 when you ran for the Senate against Ted Kennedy (and lost). And then, that whole "being governor" thing. Oh, and that time in 2008 when you ran for President (and lost). You don't have a particularly successful political career, that's true.
New rule- if you're running for a political office, and have done so for the last 20 years or so, you're a politician.
" Lets be Honest , Congress is not Going to ANYTHING , up to Election Time"
WOW !
Dude, You mean to say that Congress is actually doing Work to improve America and not just Payed to sit on their @sses and Go on Break ?
P.S
Why ? Is it just Fine and Dandy for foxsweN to use ever word this President has spoken , from his first words to now, to Attack him.
While ! Not mentioning when , their Candidate , TEAS-Guy ( the etch a sketch guy ) changes,reframes, shifts, alters,substitute,modify mutate and just all out reverse his Thinking/Mind.
The quantum of misinformation and disinformation oozing from these characters is such that it has become nigh on impossible to distinguish between the two.
I ask...
s Camerota graduated Suma (um Laude and is reduced to bimboed legs for $$$$$$$$$$$$$