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Fox's Laura Ingraham To Guest: If You're A Law-Abiding Muslim, "Why Would You Be Upset About What The NYPD Is Doing?"

June 07, 2012 10:05 pm ET

From the June 7 edition of Fox's The O'Reilly Factor:

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Previously: 

The Five's Eric Bolling Falsely Claims That "Every Terrorist On American Soil Has Been A Muslim"

New York Daily News: Stalwart Defender Of NYPD's Most Controversial Policies

Fox & Friends Never Misses A Chance To Demonize Muslims

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    • Author by politeradical (June 07, 2012 10:09 pm ET)
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      Maybe because they're law abiding citizens and entitled to the same protections under whatever's left of Fourth Amendment as the rest of us.
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    • Author by Quicksilver M.S (June 07, 2012 10:11 pm ET)
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      Rewrite:

      Fox's Laura Ingraham To Guest:
      "If You're A Law-Abiding Jew ", "Why Would You Be Upset About What The Nazi's are Doing?"
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      • Author by epkklk851 (June 07, 2012 10:23 pm ET)
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        Sadly, this is exactly why the Nazis succeeded with nearly destroying the Jews of Europe. Most Jews, at the time, saw themselves as Germans first and Jews second, they bought into German society, they couldn't understand how those folks would turn on them for being Jewish.
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      • Author by Egbert Sousť (June 08, 2012 7:56 am ET)
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        To be technical, Laura, what the NYPD is doing is called (a) "surveillance without factual predicate", (b) "investigation without reasonable suspicion" or, if you want, profiling.

        Timothy McVeigh: White
        Laura Ingraham: check

        Tim: Christian
        Laura: check

        Tim: Bombs away
        Ingy: check

        Tim: Went to the Dark Side
        Ms. I: check

        Profile complete. Q: Is it time for Ingraham to start humming, "Me and My Shadow"?
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    • Author by epkklk851 (June 07, 2012 10:20 pm ET)
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      Our country has a guarantee of both religious freedom and equal protection, it doesn't limit it to Christians only, but to all religions. We also forbid "bills of attainder" which expresses forbids declaring an individual or a group guilty of a crime and denying them a judicial trial. Muslims are as entitled to these protections as anyone else. I've known a few Muslims in my career, I've never been suspicious of any of them. I've known quite a few "Christians" whom I wouldn't trust to turn my back on. Our country is also a country where you are innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. If a Muslim commits a crime in this country, put them on trial. If a Christian commits a crime in this country, put them on trial.
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    • Author by n'est-ce pas (June 07, 2012 10:20 pm ET)
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      Really? More of the "if you've got nothing to hide..." from this hatchet-faced witch? The Bill of Rights contains penumbra that guarantee a right of privacy and a life free of undue government intrusion. It's funny how people who constantly proclaim their love of country and their strict adherence to bothe the Constitution and the Bible somehow can't manage to show any love or any adherence.
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    • Author by clearstate (June 07, 2012 10:29 pm ET)
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      So me being a law abiding citizen should be fine with the cops kicking down by door to make sure that I'm not doing anything wrong?
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      • Author by Bongo Fury (June 07, 2012 10:42 pm ET)
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        "Help, it's the police."..Fire Sign Theater
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        • Author by eweston8542983 (June 07, 2012 11:03 pm ET)
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          S'ok it was just Nickie D, Third Eye, in a borrowed police car. He couldn't figure out how to turn the siren off.

          I really need to buy another copy of "The Bride of Firesign." :)

          Golly who'd have thought Faux would support a government program, and one that appears to be failing at its purpose. Theocratic intolerance, and/or racism, would be just a stab in the dark on my part, right?
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          • Author by n'est-ce pas (June 07, 2012 11:13 pm ET)
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            the only stab in the dark I saw in your post was the "and/or" part.
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          • Author by Bongo Fury (June 07, 2012 11:35 pm ET)
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            Firesign good eweston.. I'm surprised I even remember that line. There was another line "ask the cop at your back door", but I don't recall the intro to that. College and reefer were integral when I went after high school.
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            • Author by eweston8542983 (June 08, 2012 12:51 am ET)
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              The Navy of all places is where the album "Not Insane" came into my innocent hands. They're great fun.

              "Ask the cop" was all part of a Ur Fact on what it means to be an American, from "How Can You be in Two Places at Once When Your not Anywhere at All." They can be tricky to quote correctly, as I've found to my own chagrin.
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              • Author by Bongo Fury (June 08, 2012 1:02 am ET)
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                Yep..it's the easy ones like "Rocky Rococo (sp) at your cervix" that are easy to remember.
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                • Author by grmce (June 09, 2012 7:05 am ET)
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                  I have fond memories of Firesign but I'm still a "Goon Show" fan first and foremost.

                  Henry Crun: Min, Min, time to put the cat out.

                  Minnie Bannister: Oooh why Henry?

                  Henry: It's on fire.
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                  • Author by eweston8542983 (June 09, 2012 10:41 am ET)
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                    Bloodnock cried out for a messenger with a voice like thunder.

                    "Send me a messenger with a voice like thunder!"

                    "...Right mate."

                    But for a twist of the radio dial I could have heard The Goons on the CBC from Montana. Unfortunatly I didn't know of them at the time.
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                    • Author by grmce (June 10, 2012 1:19 am ET)
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                      When the young Princes Andrew and Edward first heard The Goons they thought it was their father and older brother on the radio.

                      Spike Milligan died not long after the incident of the shoe bomber on American Airlines Flight 63. I assumed that once his surreal humour had become real:

                      Moriarty: Certainment-ment. Scradje is a substance found beneath the Earth's surface. This Scradje radiates upwards, keeping level with the Gulf-stream and keeps the pressure on the Earth's surface at an even level. Thus preventing boots from exploding. Unfortunately, Britain's Scradje deposits are rapidly losing their potency. With the results that have now become apparent...

                      ... John Snagge(genuine BBC newsreader): [Prerecorded] Good evening. I'm speaking to you about these boot-explosions. We, the government are doing all in our power to rectify this grave Scradje-deficiency which apparently exists. Until then, the British public must take the following precautions. To prevent yourselves exploding, remove your boots, reverse the buttons on your socks and walk backwards, holding a gas-stove above your head. I do hope this is only a temporary measure. Good night. ScradjeThe Goon Show Series 6, Episode 26.
                      life was no longer real so he gave up the ghost.
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                      • Author by eweston8542983 (June 10, 2012 12:46 pm ET)
                           
                        Spike Milligan (the well known typing error) was a treasure. Surrealistic English humor starts with him and a few other fellow Goons.

                        Surrealism has penetrated our societies in more ways than most of us realize. Unfortunetly this comes mostly in the form of commercials.

                        The gas stove was a reoccuring image, there were others, as I'm sure you know, that they used. "March that person backwards for Christmas. With a gas stove over his head!"
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                        • Author by grmce (June 10, 2012 5:24 pm ET)
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                          "I'm walking backwards for Christmas
                          Across the Irish Sea
                          I'm walking backwards for Christmas
                          It's the only thing for me.

                          "I've tried walking sideways
                          And even to the front
                          But people just laugh and say
                          That it's a publicity stunt."

                          Whilst I would agree that post-war British surreal comedy really hits its stride with the Goons surrealism in british humour certainly existed pre-war. If you ever saw him in action with his younger brother, Desmond, you would see something that dated back to their childhood. Milligan's father was also of a similar mindset. Milligan himself often cited J.B. Morton, who wrote the By the Way column under the pseudonym "Beachcomber" from 1924 to 1975 in the London Daily Express, as the greatest influence on his and his brother's sense of humour.

                          During the late 1960s he fronted a BBC television program The World Of Beachcomber based on the writings of Morton.

                          Both Morton and Milligan served in the ranks (Morton WW1, Milligan WW2) and it is significant that both world wars left a legacy of such art - Da-Da, Surrealism, Absurdism.

                          Lest you think Morton was a one-off Radio and Stage comics such as Flanagan and Allen (sketch concerning digging holes in South Africa and selling them to the farmers and songs such as "What Happens To The Breakdown Man When The Breakdown Van Breaks Down" combined twisted logic and word play).
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                          • Author by eweston8542983 (June 10, 2012 6:58 pm ET)
                               
                            Never heard of Mr. Morton. I'll look him up.

                            I did read the first to editions of Spikes WWll series of books. I'd like to find the rest of them.

                            One of the forwards quotes was about historical accuracy being important in writing, from someone. Spike added below this that he jazzed his up a little.
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    • Author by draftedin68 (June 07, 2012 11:28 pm ET)
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      It never ends...

      Roger Ailes gives BO a day off and has no problem whatsoever filling his spot with another member of his Band Of Bigots.

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    • Author by goodfight (June 08, 2012 1:27 am ET)
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      Well, for one thing, the NYPD is having a look-see at people in Newark, NJ. Does the word jurisdiction mean anything to you? The motto is supposed to be "To protect and to serve," not to harass and intimidate.
      Hey Laura, do you mind if I toss your apartment while you're out? You've got nothing to hide, right?
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    • Author by highlyunlikely (June 08, 2012 1:40 am ET)
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      what a stupid question. And yes, there is such a thing.
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    • Author by dhertzfe (June 08, 2012 1:52 am ET)
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      Does that apply to the Nebraska farmers being monitored by drones to make sure they are letting their cattle use the water ways as toilets?
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (June 08, 2012 7:46 am ET)
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        No drones involved there. EPA does overflights of feed lots in a Cessna to verify that runoff is not polluting the local waterways.

        You'd understand why that was important if you ever lived near a factory farm. Whether is was cattle of pig doesn't make a lot of difference, it's all the effluent that is produced that causes the problems.
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        • Author by grmce (June 09, 2012 7:16 am ET)
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          Maybe they could fly over certain media outlets to monitor the effluent that is polluting the public discourse?
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      • Author by magnolialover (June 08, 2012 10:06 am ET)
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        Except that, drones aren't being used, and the EPA is monitoring folks to assure they're meeting the legal requirements of their operations.
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    • Author by danielsangeo (June 08, 2012 1:54 am ET)
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      Say, Laura Ingraham, would you be okay with the police pulling you over only because you're a right-winger?
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      • Author by Conchobhar (June 10, 2012 4:46 pm ET)
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        Seems to me the right went ballistic a couple of years ago, over a security assessment that discovered recruitment efforts by neo-Nazi, Aryan Nation type groups, aimed at active duty soldiers, Marines, and vets.
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    • Author by Sks1 (June 08, 2012 1:57 am ET)
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      why didnt the fbi spy n all white males after mcveigh bombed okc? this is obsurd what the fbi is doing. if they had spied on all white males in america between ages of 18-30 after okc fox news and most americans woould have been outraged this is racial and ethnic religious profiling at its worst and where is the outrage by the remainder of americans who still believe in the constitution? where is the right-wing outrage...cowards
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (June 08, 2012 2:53 am ET)
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      How about this, MW Ingram:

      Why are FOXPAC, the Nebraska and Kansas cattlemen upset about the EPA flyovers if they're law abiding?

      Checkmate!
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    • Author by mjh (June 08, 2012 5:40 am ET)
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      For Little Laura and her fellow neoKKKons, racial profiling is OK -- provided it's limited to black people driving nice cars and Muslims getting on planes.

      Once that profiling starts to include white people . . .


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    • Author by Egbert Sousť (June 08, 2012 6:21 am ET)
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      For a sample of other wingnut* talk about the NYPD surveillance click here. The gist is that is that you do have something to worry about if you are a law abiding Muslim in America because being Muslim here is just plain wrong.
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      *As it turns out, WSJ readers.
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    • Author by Maimonides 03 (June 08, 2012 7:19 am ET)
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      If I said we were going to search and investigate all corporations because some are not paying their taxes or are polluting, the outrage from FOX and the right would be un-ending.

      We have rights and protections for a reason. I love how the rightwing claims to be about freedom, then they pen the Patriot Act. Yes I know President Obama extended some provisions too and I'm not happy.

      Freedom for the right only has to do with money, not citizens. They truly are corporatists.

      I would also point out that, terrorist groups are well aware of the NYPD and how they operate. I'm sure they have altered their tactics in some instances. Alliances with say Narco-terrorists in South America are likely to develope and they will use them to carry out missions. The Taliban has strong ties already with heroin trafficking.

      Are jihadists, salafists and islamists a problem sure, do I live in constant fear, no. This is the goal on the right: living in a state of fear.

      National security is a huge cottage industry. 911 was a huge boom for wannabe spies and security groups. They sprang up everywhere. The military started using PRIVATE companies for intelligence. This is a recipe for disaster.
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    • Author by Fallacyhunter (June 08, 2012 7:58 am ET)
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      Presuming guilt is unconstitutional twaddle, Laura.
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    • Author by magnolialover (June 08, 2012 10:04 am ET)
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      Let's change this around.

      You're presumably a law abiding white person in NYC, and the cops stop and frisk you. How does that make you feel?

      It's called putting yourself into someone else's shoes Laura, and I'm pretty sure you'd not like it.
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    • Author by shaggles (June 08, 2012 2:47 pm ET)
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      THis is both expected and hilarious. Expected because it's the same thing they said about warrentless wiretaps and probably some other things I'm forgetting. Hilarious because of the total freak out the same people have over being required to register their guns or about homeland security saying that right wing extremist groups could be a threat to national security. If you're a law abiding gun owner or right wing person who is not an exremtist what is there for you to worry about from these things?
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    • Author by garyd552 (June 08, 2012 3:26 pm ET)
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      Why worry? Evidently she has never been black in the south. Trayvon comes to mind you blonde bimbo.
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    • Author by garyd552 (June 08, 2012 3:26 pm ET)
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      Why worry? Evidently she has never been black in the south. Trayvon comes to mind you blonde bimbo.
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    • Author by billcnc (June 08, 2012 4:39 pm ET)
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      Apparently this sleazebag SKANK, would love nothing more than to make them wear a "STAR" on their clothing!
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (June 08, 2012 6:54 pm ET)
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      Only one who has never had his/her rights violated because of his/her race, religion, ethnicity, and/or national origin, could make a clueless, dim-witted statement like this. Ingraham's statement has "I'm one of America's privileged individuals" written all over it. This woman has no idea what other Americans are subjected to, and her callous comments show that she doesn't care.
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    • Author by grmce (June 09, 2012 6:42 am ET)
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      Fox's Laura Ingraham To Guest: If You're A Law-Abiding Muslim, "Why Would You Be Upset About What The NYPD Is Doing?"
      Because they have assumed the authority to detain and search me without good cause which is not only annoying and humiliating but is also ultra vires and unconstitutional.

      How would you like to face that everytime you went outside your house you dopey three-wheeler!!!
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    • Author by ToothbrushMan (June 09, 2012 4:36 pm ET)
         
      Ah.

      "You've nothing to fear if you're not a criminal".

      The excuse of the police state.
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    • Author by handofthebeggar (June 10, 2012 8:16 pm ET)
         
      I thought fox was bad then I went to this website and this one is completely one sided shame on you for your distortions I now dont believe democrats want to work together
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