Bernard Goldberg: Obama Should Tell Unmarried Parents To "Do Their Fair Share"; The Wealthy "Aren't The Problem"
February 20, 2012 10:34 pm ET
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Someone else being rich is not the reason you might be poor.
You might be living proof that the mouth is the a-hole of the mind. Use your mind or someone will use it for you.
I've historically said that Conservtaives are either EVIL or STUPID - either LYING or BUYING. And as there is a 99% chance the you and Wesley are not in the top 1%, we can all conclude which camp that puts you in. But you know what? I was wrong: Even those 1%'ers are more STUPID than EVIL, becuase even they do better under Democrats!
But, sure, by all means keep screwing yourself in the voting booth becuase the man in the suit on Fox news told you it would be better to think that way.
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It is astonishing how stupid brainwashed and pitiful you are. You have no brain no soul no decency. You are scum. The parasites like YOU care only about yourself and couldnt care less about your nieghbor or your fellow citizens. The worship of the rich and contempt of the working class by the RIGHT is what is killing our good country. Of course you are too stupid and too brainwashed to understand this or pretty much anything else Rush didnt tell you to think you subhuman piece of garbage
You are a liar, you are a punk, you are a moron and you are so brainwashed it is hard to believe you are human. STFU and let the adults talk now.
Suck my hanging appendage you pustulet seeping herpes sore
Your abject stupidity is a constant source of amazement to me. No one said one person being rich was a reason for anything and I am not even close to poor. However it WAS the Wall St Banksters that CRATERED the economy and got richer doing it.
You are just pathetic trollscum now Wes. You dont even try to make cogent arguments. You have become a sad parody of insanely stupid brainwashed rightwing morons everywhere. Congratulations and good luck with that
He's saying that the rich are not the problem, however no one ever said anything about the rich being a problem, just that they are not doing their fair share.
If America thinks the rich are a problem, it would lock them all up, not demand that they pay their fair share, it's about equity rather than criminal accountability.
Oh I agree, it MIGHT not be the reason you are poor...but what has that got to do with anything anyway?
It still does not justify why the rich should be getting the tax cuts that they have ben getting for the past 30 years. Nor does it refute the point that, by paying thier fair share, the rich may well be aiding the economy.
From the right's new best pals Politifact
At least, once they got done hemming and hawing around, they did rate that fact as True, even though they obviously didn't want to.
What you see today is the result of "rich" people paying the republicans to keep he minimal wage at $3.35 for over 12 years,and blocking increases after that.The result freezing the wages of everybody making above minimal wage....This kicked many working people out of the saddle,allowing their horse to be stolen
Someone else being GREEDY and not trickling down like St Ronnie fantasized about might be the reason for all of that, though.
Let me see if I can explain how the real world works for you.
In the real world, rich folks don't trickle wealth down. They sock it away in offshore tax-dodges. When we give them tax breaks and more money, that is just more that they can sock away.
Poor folks, however, spend everything they have. If we give THEM more money, they buy things that they need. You know, things like food, furniture to replace the old nasty stuff they have; cars to replace the unreliable pos they have. That money ends up socked away in a rich guy's offshore tax-dodge as well, but the poor guy gets some use out of it first.
Trickle UP works. Trickle down is a fantasy and a lie that idiots like you have bought (and the rest of us have paid for) for decades.
The rich are our greatest americans. They fight the odds, pick themselves up, make things happen, and effortlessly navigate the perils of the real world. They don't need to be treated fairly. They know fairness is for babies, and they can take it.
FOAD you pathetic scum sucking punk. Your mother sucks the fungus off of the toes of lepers
But that's the kind of thinking that feeds into the narrative that all rich people are rich because they earned it, they deserve it, and they are somehow "greater" than the average American.
Rich people who got there by working their asses off are fewer and farther between than a lot of people want to acknowledge. Plenty of rich people got there by being born into wealth. And even some who actually earned their money have done so in ways that would lead me to say they don't truly deserve it.
But however they got there, the rich aren't by virtue of their wealth "our greatest Americans". And the sooner people realize that, the sooner we'll maybe change this silly system that caters to them.
Your statement about "deserving" is strange to the thinking mind. In an economy, by definition, aren't those that have wealth the ones who "deserve it?" Unless, we already live in a communist, socialist, or fascist state, in which case you could be right...
Two things:
1) Yes I do;
2) NOBODY CREATES THEIR OWN WEALTH!!! Every wealthy person relied upon the infrastructure we ALL pay for and maintain to acheive their rarified status. Our roads. Ours schools. Our first responders. Our military. STOP FETISHIZING THE RICH.
You can compare the percentage then of the people who are born rich, and those who are born poor and from what backgrounds they come from.
Informative enough, if you know how to look at it.
Ummm the poor or middle class can have 2 or 3 kids too, that also increases the odds of being born poor right? Not sure what you're getting at here.
You're forgetting that inheritance is not the only factor in terms of being born rich having a better chance at staying rich. Socio-economic access (such as education, information, networks etc) also gives them the advantage over those born in a lower strata. They have higher employment chances overall than the poor when they grow up because of the above.
These rich people also have a starting base with which to make more money (and thus stay rich or get richer), I'm sure you know that having more capital in investments means higher opportunity to gain more in returns right? That's an advantage too that the rich have over the poor in staying rich.
Being born rich has a LOT to do with staying rich. One has a lot of advantages over others, and although not all of them are able to utilize it properly, it wouldn't be a stretch to say that most that get these advantages do, and stay ahead by doing so.
STFU and get back to your day job blowing crackheads at the bus stop
We should tax the rich higher than fairness dictates because it works. This is true even given a conservative's level of rich-people worship.
What's the point of being online if you're just gonna burn past all the words at 10000/second? If you don't like to pause and take in the scenery here, go somewhere else.
I do agree that it is funny that these Republicons don't seem to remember how well off EVERYONE in the USA was when the top tax rate was around 90%, and how NOT well off everyone (but the top 2% or so) became when that rate dropped to less than a quarter of that.
When fairness is brought into a tax discussion (even when liberals do it), the discussion is off the rails. Some policy works and some doesn't.
Progressive taxation works, it's been proved. The rich did not make it by themselves; America helped them get there, and they proportionally owe America back so that the next round of success happens. Moralize if you wish, to describe it as fair or not. It's a cycle that works.
Obama is going only partway with this "fair share" theme, trying to get back to the point where the rich pay something similar to the rest, whoop-de-doo. Hooboy, it's sort-of-not-regressive-tax-policy! Woo! Maybe that's all he can do given the climate, don't know. I lean toward supporting him for trying. Congress is where it's at anyway--make them do the right thing so he has to sign it.
Thank you Paris Hilton!!
There are self made people that started out with little who got very rich on their own.Most rich people start out in life already rich or with a comfortable leg up over most other people.Some work very hard to stay rich and some don't have to.When did Mitt Romney or Donald Trump have to pick themselves up?Their way was paved by their fathers and grandfathers.Name some very wealthy(not rich) people that started from less than middle class backgrounds.After you exclude actors,athletes,musicians,politicians,the list isn't that long compared to the ones that were born into money.If you follow the money trail back to the original "self made " fortune,you may also find some exploitation or worse activities that created the wealth.Just look at the foundation of the American economy which was exploitaion of Native Americans and their land plus the institution of slavery and perpetration of Jim Crow apartheid.Certainly there were people who just worked hard and some who just worked hard to capitalize on those advantages,but it hardly was a fair system. Rich people shouldn't just be put on a monolithic noble pedestal as you are doing.Those born with no advantages shouldn't be exploited to make others get even richer with no control or protection on their behalf.That's all most people want.
Bernard Goldberg - Master of Conflation
STFU punk. It would be much better for everyone if you spent your time more productively searching desperatly for some dignity and self respect
Boys and girls know how to have sex instinctively, just like every other animal. Unless you're implying that before there was sex ed in schools, no one knew how things worked down there. Which is ridiculous, because we wouldn't be having this conversation if that was true.
Stop being so jealous. We understand no human being would lower themselves into such depravity to allow anything as disgusting as you touch them doesnt make sex a bad thing. G
You and all of your cronies seem to be too stupid to understand that:
free and easy access to contraception and prophylactics = no unwanted pregnancies = no abortions.
That or you are all in favor of more abortions.
Which is it?
I'm sure, if he looks hard enough, he can find a Limbaugh, Hannity, Ingraham, or Beck quote that will support him.
Of course, he won't be able to find any facts, but then, when has he ever needed facts to bolster his beliefs?
Condoms have the capability to save someone's life from an undesired situation. They can prevent youths from having an unwanted pregnancy, which can result in abortions.
There are some grocery and convenience stores that I've been to that still have condoms locked behind glass, applying the notion that they are 'forbidden', and making a young teen all the less likely to ask the cashier to unlock the case for them. The logic is absurd.
Perhaps you should address more how sex education is more for AVOIDING sex and teenage pregnancy and the morality behind sex and not the simple cross-section of a vagina.
I realize this is just anecdotal but, the association that the parents not being married results in a child growing up poor isn't quite right.
It also sounds like you're totally in favor of homosexual marriage, and I commend you for that.
I might add that I had tons of emotional support from my family, friends, church and employer. While my ex's was a part of the kids' life, my father and brothers were father figures also. My kids turned out just fine.
My kidz turned out fine, as well!
I might add, I didn't have "ex's," I had one "ex." I refused to date until my children were in high school because I didn't want to create more problems.
Yes, it is an economic issue, and the issue is not that unmarried parents are killing the economy. It is that thirty years of flattened wages have made it impossible to raise a child on a single income. The solution is not to insist that people get married. It is to address the notion that the ultimate goal of any business is to extract as much money into as few pockets as possible and the best way to accomplish that is to undercut wages paid to workers.
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Had you provided those young women with free birth control maybe they would be in this position, di(k. You ever make a mistake, I mean sleep with someone you maybe shouldn't have? Did you have to pay for it with your life? No? imagine my surprise.........