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Kilmeade: "Should Public School Teachers Be Ordered To Tell Their Students Why It's Okay To Be Gay?"

April 19, 2011 8:39 am ET

From the April 19 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends:

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    • Author by rwmacdonald2091 (April 19, 2011 8:43 am ET)
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      Hey Brian, don't you remember your teachers telling the other kids not to make fun of you. After all it's not your fault you were born that way.
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    • Author by MiniTru (April 19, 2011 8:43 am ET)
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      No. They should do it because it's the right thing to do.
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      • Author by BDA (April 19, 2011 11:20 am ET)
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        Does this idiot think teachers should be ordered to tell gay students they are mentally ill, immoral, and doomed to hell instead?

        I would venture to say yes.
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      • Author by BlackMako (April 19, 2011 2:01 pm ET)
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        As a teacher I believe that any teacher who spouts any kind of ideology in the classroom or ever gives their students any clue what their personal beliefs are is a failure. If they were to be ordered to explain anything relating to any ideology to a classroom they should strike immediately and demand the jobs of everyone involved in giving such an order. A classroom is not a soapbox, nor is it an open forum for free speech. I am not in front of those students to give them my life story, and they don't really care to hear it anyway, I am there, as a philosophy and humanities instructor, to teach them to think critically. I do not teach them what to think, only how to think. If they hate homosexuals then that is their failure and burden to bear, not mine.
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        • Author by BlackMako (April 19, 2011 2:06 pm ET)
             
          As for my own son, if he were to ever let me hear him say that he hates homosexuals or any other group based on existential properties then he would be quickly and violently corrected. It is OK to hate people based on their choices, beliefs and actions. It is not OK to hate people based on how they were born. What's next, are we gonna try to correct left handed people... Oh, wait, never mind, WE DO!
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        • Author by Corah (April 19, 2011 4:26 pm ET)
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          As teachers it is not our job to tell our students what to believe. It is our job to teach them how to think and consider what is right and wrong and why. I deal with substantially younger students than you do and so I do often have to get into the realm of 'right and wrong'. Unfortunately, because of where I work, I also have to do what many parents don't and teach them what is appropriate and what isn't.
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          • Author by BlackMako (April 19, 2011 5:35 pm ET)
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            Right and wrong is definitely our job to teach, most parents surely don't do it. As for what is appropriate and what is not... That is a bit too gray for me and I like to just remove anyone who is not following basic classroom etiquette. If they want to be inappropriate outside of my classroom I really couldn't care less.

            How luxurious it must be to teach youngsters. By the time they get to me they are so polluted by the media, church, mom and dad and their friends that I can barely teach them anything, I just give my lectures, discuss the readings, grade the work based on whether or not they completed the assignments according to the rubrics and send them on. I fail a LOT of students based on bad source material and plagiarism alone, talk about inappropriate behavior. One act of cheating or plagiarism is an F for the semester in my classroom.
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            • Author by cardun (April 19, 2011 8:14 pm ET)
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              You sound like a poor excuse for a teacher if you think church and parents have polluted the children. Does that mean that YOU are the only one who is ALL KNOWING. What a load of bull. Sounds like YOU are the one polluting the kids. Thank God you aren't my childrens teacher.
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            • Author by Corah (April 20, 2011 2:25 am ET)
                 
              It's certainly a whole different set of problems.
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    • Author by epkklk851 (April 19, 2011 8:47 am ET)
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      I was a teacher for about 10 years and I spent another 7 as a sub. When you are in high schools, you deal with a certain percentage of Gay students. You also deal with homophobic students and you deal with kids who are prejudiced against Gays without being afraid they might be Gay. You have to protect the Gay child. You can't let them be bullied and you can't let them be intimidated by the fear or loathing coming from other students (or teachers). Gay student's need to know that it IS okay to be Gay, and God loves them just as much as God loves the straight kids. I think there are far worse things than being Gay in the world. I think being a vicious homophobe is worse, for example.
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      • Author by WestMassman (April 19, 2011 9:42 am ET)
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        Well said and I agree fully
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      • Author by SusieMA (April 19, 2011 10:06 am ET)
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        All bullying should be addressed. Zero tolerance should be applied. However I'm not certain if teachers should be specifically ordered to teach why homosexuality is "ok". Certainly it should be included when discussing other reasons for bullying, be it speech impediments, weight, race, religion, and so forth.

        I'm also quite certain that to bring God into the discussion in a public school might cause some controversy. I personally wouldn't be offended but others might. Perhaps churches should cover that?
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        • Author by mjlilgui (April 19, 2011 10:28 am ET)
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          Perhaps churches should cover that?

          Which churches? The Southern Baptist churches that would as soon set a gay man on fire as forgive him?

          If a teacher sees a child being bullied because he/she is homosexual, I think it is VERY important that that issue be handled specifically and not buried in a laundry list of bully issues in order to be PC for people who are homophobic. The fact that people get offended when someone is told that being gay is okay is exactly why the point needs to be made: being gay is okay.
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          • Author by SusieMA (April 19, 2011 10:35 am ET)
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            As I wrote, I've no problem with a teacher including "God" in her discussion about homosexuality, but I'm almost 100% certain it would offend others who don't believe the mention of God or any religion should be included in public schools. That was my point about churches.

            All bullying can hurt and leave lifetime scars. I don't believe one should be more important than the others.
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            • Author by mjlilgui (April 19, 2011 10:52 am ET)
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              As a non-religious person, I've had mixed feelings about the inclusion of God in school. It frankly doesn't bother me, but I can see where people would be bothered. I grew up in the heart of the Southern Baptist reach, about 10 minutes from Jerry Falwell's church. If a student needs the subject to be framed by religion to "get" it, then I'm all for it.

              I knew too many students who used their religion to justify their attacks on homosexual students, from taunting and emotional bullying to full-on physical assaults. It was the most extreme bullying I saw, by far. You can't justify bullying children with speech impediments, learning disabilities, non-conformal appearance... students who did so would admit it was wrong. There is a different self-righteous component to bullying gays, and I believe it requires a more proactive approach.
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              • Author by SusieMA (April 19, 2011 12:09 pm ET)
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                Well we'll have to agree to disagree here about at least one point. I think any form of bullying can hurt. So I don't rank one above the other. And I'm not really certain most bullies ever quite understand or admit it's wrong.

                If someone is different they often get picked on. No matter what the reason, it's painful.

                Religion may be to blame in certain situations, but kids often form opinions by what is passed along by their parents.
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                • Author by kamrom (April 19, 2011 12:36 pm ET)
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                  No, that is not what you're saying. Youre saying it, but its not what your words mean and you know it.

                  Gay kids are a substantial minority, even moreso from OUT gay kids. Every damn day its a challenge to see who can use the word "gay" as an insult the most times.

                  your attitude stretches wholly from an ignorant standpoint. Religion is a community, and a faith. You have a place to go, to be safe. You can wear your stupid cross and claim your right to do so and everyoen agrees with you.

                  And yet all over this damn country and planet there are places where its okay to murder gay people. No mincing words, I dont play that game -- You have a community. Our community has to hide from you. You kill us. You hate us. You lie and you manipulate JUST LIKE YOU DID IN THIS THREAD.

                  You refuse to accept the problem. You refuse to accept you are doing wrong. You hide behind nonsense like "zero tolerance" as if that EVER solved anyhting.

                  But then you ARE christian. The religion based directly on "If you dont do what we say you'll burn forever", deliverd with a gleeful, smug face 90% of the time.

                  So why dont you go skip off to your ice cream social or whatever the hell yourgroup does when it isnt attacking people different than you, and think that maybe, for one minute, you DO NOT KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE.

                  Im sorry, thats it. You dont. You DO NOT KNOW WHAT ITS LIKE.
                  You do not even know what reliigous persecution looks like, you damned welll arent gonna recognize other kinds!

                  My family is from ireland. In ireland, they decided to let people just settle things and problems in a community, without itnervention.

                  My family left ireland because they were sick of watching catholics and protestants blow each other up and murder children in the process.

                  We don't trust your religion, we are banned from pariticpating in it, you threaten us with death, wtih hell. You quote your stupid book and leave out all the things that says that children and women should meet the business end of a rock.

                  Youre a fraud, a liar, an empty hopeless shell who has put their fear and worries into a little box to pretend it doesnt exist. All the while you can use your smug superiority to demand peoople believe that YOUR MAGIC IS REAL AND WORKS.

                  It does not. Now, scuttle off like a good little bottom feeder. The world you are looking into is far too big and far too scary. If you have no idea why gay people might not go to church, then you are lost.

                  A parting note. There are thousands of denominations of christian. THousands more of judaism and islam.

                  each one claims to be the one true faith, above all the others.

                  that means at best, you have a 999/1000 chance of going to eternal torture in hell until you are obliterated utterly. Because only one is right, and chances are, yours isnt it.

                  Pray your faith is wrong. If it is not, we'll see you in hell.
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            • Author by takemycountryback (April 19, 2011 11:47 am ET)
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              I am so glad you have no problem with this. But then who gives a sh*t what you have or do not have a problem with? God is a story, a fable. Homosexuality is real, proven, fact! That's the difference here. God should never be taught in school because school is about teaching facts and learning and thinking. Religion does not allow for any of that. Religion dictates and controls. It throws login and fact out the window. Therefore it does not ever belong in public schools. Gay is real. Jesus in my toast is NOT.
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              • Author by SusieMA (April 19, 2011 11:58 am ET)
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                Take bringing up God in school by teachers with the poster epkklk851 because she/he is the one that brought God into the discussion and felt they could mention it, I only gave my input.

                I really don't care about your opinion either, you sound like an angry rude jerk.
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                • Author by takemycountryback (April 19, 2011 12:09 pm ET)
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                  Well, I am angry when God is brought into any conversation outside of church. A jerk? Maybe...sometimes sure. Not always. Just when I hear stupid opinions being spouted where they have no place. Plus I was commenting on your "As I wrote, I've no problem with a teacher including "God" in her discussion about homosexuality" comment. You did write that, did you not?
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                  • Author by SusieMA (April 19, 2011 12:16 pm ET)
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                    Yes I wrote that because I wouldn't personally be offended. If you are, that's no reason to lash out at me. I also said I thought others would be offended which is why I suggested maybe it should be brought up only in churches.

                    Again, my comments about that were to epkklk851 because she brought up teachers bringing God into talking with Gay students.
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                  • Author by takemycountryback (April 19, 2011 12:23 pm ET)
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                    And if you don't care about my opinion why did you reply?
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                    • Author by takemycountryback (April 19, 2011 12:28 pm ET)
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                      And I would personally be offended, as I often am when God is brought into any conversation where it does not belong. If you want to go with God great! More power to ya. Just do it privately. Being Gay on the other hand should not have to be private because it is a real thing and a natural occurrence. Believing in God is not natural. It is taught and twisted and the whole reason gays have such trouble is precisely because of the idea that we are all taught that God is against it and all that made up nonsense.
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                  • Author by cardun (April 19, 2011 8:20 pm ET)
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                    You need to seek help for your serious anger issues. :)
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                    • Author by takemycountryback (April 20, 2011 3:45 pm ET)
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                      Who me? Why? Because I am angry when I read about how gays are persecuted daily in the name of God? Does my anger upset you? Maybe you would feel differently if you were able to tell the difference between anger and a strong opinion about an issue.
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                • Author by kamrom (April 19, 2011 12:44 pm ET)
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                  "I didnt bring up god." You very much did. You made it part of your whole tirade. And now you are calling people angry because we dont like to see our constant harassment compared to the non-harassment churches get?

                  Thank you, for showing our less persecuted friends exactly what we mean. You shut down, you shut out. You hide from our problem with you. You wont deal with it. No no no. We are just wrong, just angry.

                  You wont deal wit hthe reason. You wont ask us "Why do you feel my religion is so hostile toward you?" You dont seek to find out what we want or why we might feel this way.

                  You cant blame us for this. We put out olive branches cosntantly, and you prefer to beat us with them. or just take it and run off. We are trying, and watching christians just shut down, close their eyes, cover their eatrs and walks away when we point out that yes, you are part of the problem.

                  We cant force you to listen, we cant force you to not mangle our words and ignore our argument.

                  But it sucks when we do it back, does it? Keep that in mind. We respond in kind.

                  You might want to see what asking a person to explain why they feel that way gets you, without tossing acusations and religious dogma that excludes them.

                  Deal with us in the real world. Because until you do, until you make a stern commitment, we all know the one thing we need to about you:

                  You think we deserved to burn in hell because of who we love. THAT is what we see of your faith.

                  You have done nothing to discourage that thought. And that is why you are the bad guy.
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                  • Author by epkklk851 (April 19, 2011 3:46 pm ET)
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                    For the record, I should not have included the God in my comment. I would not do it as a teacher, but I was writing something from my heart. I am a deeply religious person who grew up in a very secular/agnostic home. I wasn't really taught much about God, but I found God on my own. However, having known and loved many agnostics and atheists in my life, I accept their lack of belief as easily as I would accept anything else about them. For myself, I find that my faith makes me a better person because I have a reason to be a better person. But that does not mean that I think less of people who aren't religious, I don't. Truth told, most of the people who have been the biggest disappointment and danger to me have been "Good Christians". And most people when they deal with me, think I am an atheist or an agnostic, because I try to keep the public and the private separate.
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              • Author by takemycountryback (April 20, 2011 3:46 pm ET)
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                Why the thumbs down? Is homosexuality not a fact? Ar we not persecuting gays in the name of God daily? Tell me. Is it my supposed anger that you are offended or is it something more? Anger is a natural occurrence, just like being gay is a natural occurrence. Why so hostile against someone who is angry about an issue?
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        • Author by ultrasanktpauli (April 19, 2011 10:31 am ET)
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          i really like those who tell me 'queer' is by choice.

          imagine MAKING that 'choice'...so you what? 'choose' to heap tons of difficulty on your life? isn't life difficult enough without hitting self in head?

          and the dirtbags on the right STILL tell me it's a choice.

          scum.
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          • Author by kamrom (April 19, 2011 3:43 pm ET)
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            Oh definetly. I wish we would just stop choosing to like guys. I mean, we're just taking the easy way out. Sure i subject myself to harassment, sure i cant even hold his hand in public without fear. Watching states dismantle rights for us, watching housing kick us out because theres no discrimination laws, dealing with family members who may not accept homosexuality as real thing...watching corrupt african leaders show the most horrific of movies to people while being cheered on by monsters who claim its a "purpose driven nation" now that it hates and kills gays.

            is it any surprise we'd choose to live this way? Its the high life, to be sure! The Best of All Possible Worlds!
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        • Author by historygeek001 (April 19, 2011 10:49 am ET)
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          Why shouldn't teachers teach that homosexuality is OK? Take bigotry out of the classroom. Homosexuality IS OK!
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          • Author by kamrom (April 19, 2011 3:44 pm ET)
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            My English teacher went against the whims of my midwest school and put up a pink triangle "Safe Place" sign in his class. It was indeed the only place I felt safe; and they were always trying to make him take it down.
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        • Author by Sarv (April 19, 2011 12:51 pm ET)
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          Teachers should be required to tell students that being homosexual is "ok" in that the law protects their right to be gay. Public school teachers should be required to keep their intolerant religious and or philosophical beliefs to themselves.
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        • Author by cardun (April 19, 2011 8:17 pm ET)
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          I completely agree with you Susie. All bullying should be addressed not just pick and choose. Gay bashing should be allowed but at the same time it should not also be taught to be o.k. That's done at home, not school.
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      • Author by Corah (April 19, 2011 4:21 pm ET)
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        God has no place in public schools. They need to know that bullying is wrong.
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        • Author by epkklk851 (April 19, 2011 4:28 pm ET)
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          I would say that God has no place in the public school curriculum, however, many teachers and students are religious, and they bring their faith with them, just as atheists and agnostics bring their beliefs with them. But, you are correct, bullying is wrong, whether you are religious or not. My original post was more personal than I would have presented to a group of students; I would not have framed my presentation in religious tones in a classroom.
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    • Author by YouTubeJEFF9K (April 19, 2011 8:51 am ET)
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      Is there a subliminal message here? Check the arrow pointing to the guy on the right.
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    • Author by einreb (April 19, 2011 8:56 am ET)
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      "Should Public School Teachers Be Ordered To Tell Their Students Why It's Okay To Be Gay?"

      It's obvious from the question that Kilmeade has never set foot in a classroom either as a student or as a teacher. It also somewhat demonstrates the inherent limitation that comes with homeschooling.
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      • Author by kamrom (April 19, 2011 3:52 pm ET)
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        Its disturbing..They have spent so much time demonizing us, that they even believe their own lies...But every now and then something happens.

        You find out your friend/child etc is gay. You get confused..this person is gay? But he's not doing any of those things that the conservatieves said they would... He's in a happy relationship, monogamous... But they said.."

        And thats why Dick Cheney never, EVER said anything against gay rights. His daughter is gay. When people realise that they know gay people and they know who we are (morals and ethics-wise) it crashes their view on the subject. They almost always come around, realising yes, we are human beings.

        We are the same as everyone else, and all we want, ALL WE WANT, is to have our society treat us as equals. We dont care if you dont want us in your church; we cant force you. Fortunately, a church is not needed for marraige (I dont htink christians know this...)

        They have turned us into monsters, or they try to. Until they realise that we are more than the lies they claimed. Also, this is a prime example of the Streisand Effect: by going crazy and attacking us in the most messed up manners...

        Stuff like claiming gay marriage would violate the unalienable rights of straight couples -- accusations of horrific sex crimes -- accusations of treason -- and nonsense arguments about marrying furniture.

        The more they do this, the more good people come out to say "NO, thats not what we do. I know because IM GAY." Thats what the right is terrified of right now. If the closeted people came out, they would have to apply hate to people they claim to love, even though that person did not change.
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    • Author by nerzog (April 19, 2011 9:04 am ET)
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      In Troglodyte America, teachers will encourage students to beat up gays after class for extra credit.
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      • Author by Lizinbklyn (April 19, 2011 10:29 am ET)
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        THUMBS UP THUMBS UP THUMBS UP
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      • Author by kamrom (April 19, 2011 3:55 pm ET)
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        Ive always believed that A civilization can be judged on one universal concept: How it treats its weakest members. We, being a substantial and guaranteed minority, are being treated like crap by most people.

        That is who humanity has decided to be: One who will attack people they hate to hide from their real problems. We cant defend ourselves in kind, and so they just increase their attacks.

        Thats how our society treats its weakest. Scapegoating.
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      • Author by cardun (April 19, 2011 8:23 pm ET)
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        What an idiotic statement.
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    • Author by dogbreath (April 19, 2011 9:14 am ET)
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      Should public school teachers be ordered to tell their students that the Earth is 6,000 years old? At least the LGBT education that kids might receive is based in fact.
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    • Author by IRONY 101 (April 19, 2011 9:19 am ET)
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      If they want their kids taught that homosexuality is an abomination then let them send their kids to Evangelical Christian private schools.
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    • Author by kevinpa (April 19, 2011 9:35 am ET)
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      Should Public School Teachers Tell students..watch out for straight males? They will rape your Daughters!!!
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      • Author by epkklk851 (April 19, 2011 10:01 am ET)
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        They don't, but in some cases, a few cases, they definitely should.
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    • Author by ultrasanktpauli (April 19, 2011 10:24 am ET)
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      wait, i thought brian was gay? wtf?
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    • Author by boxtop (April 19, 2011 10:50 am ET)
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      Let's first teach the students where Italy is on the map.
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      • Author by papa bear3 (April 19, 2011 11:05 am ET)
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        . . .it is right next to that Gay country, France
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      • Author by Area Man (April 19, 2011 11:09 am ET)
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        Let's first teach the students where Italy is on the map.

        Tea Partier: "I know, I know! Its up there above where Obama was born, huh huh huh."
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    • Author by Badtime (April 19, 2011 11:09 am ET)
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      No! I completely agree with Kilmeade! Its NOT okay for teachers to impose anything on their students!

      Now that we got that settled, lets impose our values on them!
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    • Author by fiorentina5 (April 19, 2011 11:27 am ET)
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      Are they just asking dumb stuff to deflect people's attention from that fact that America is in crisis right now? Oh wait yes. Pitiful. D^&$ them for all this misinformation that caused a lot of the people to support things that no rational person would ever support. Fox News is such a big part of the problem.
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      • Author by kamrom (April 19, 2011 3:57 pm ET)
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        The best part is when they ignore their own holy book while claiming that holy book supports them.

        You would be surprised with how many women, with a shred of irony, carry around signs with the leviticus entry that they say is against gays. Of course a woman speaking out like that should face the same punishment.

        But actually expecting the extreme right to read something they claim to love and follow without err is an exercise in futility; theyll claim to do research but never be able to share its source. Because that source is the echo chamber.
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        • Author by Badtime (April 20, 2011 12:37 am ET)
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          Yeah, I love people who say (in the same breath mind you) that people cant "pick and choose" when it comes to the bible and that its "very specific" in what you can and cant do. You know what else is specific?

          Women are not allowed to speak in congregation.
          During their menstrual cycles, women and everything they touch is unclean.
          You cannot have clothing of mixed fibers.
          You cannot collect interest on loaned money.
          Kid disobeying you? Gotta stone him.

          Apparently, every christian in America picks and chooses. Its strange that the powers that be focus on a narrow set of bedroom and reproductive issues to encapsulate their entire religious views.
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    • Author by cakesphere (April 19, 2011 11:28 am ET)
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      Lack of comprehensive sex ed. in America is really hurting our youth.

      I went to a high school where they only taught about abstinence.
      My senior year three girls were pregnant. This was a small class, too. About 150 people in my graduating class, tops.

      A fat lot of good that abstinence education did those girls.
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      • Author by Pubs_are_the_problem (April 19, 2011 11:49 am ET)
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        Were they good god fearing girls too?
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        • Author by cakesphere (April 19, 2011 1:28 pm ET)
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          It was a Catholic school. :)
          I don't even think birth control was brought up, ever.
          Just showed us a few pictures of STDs, told us NOT TO HAVE SEX EVAR UNTIL YOU HAVE A SPOUSE, and that was that.
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          • Author by kamrom (April 19, 2011 4:00 pm ET)
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            My schools didnt have sex ed...I have no idea what would be in that sort of class, but it sounds boring as hell...When I was in school, we learned about reproductive systems and health in our biology/science classes. We knew about male/female differences before the 2nd grade. There was no akwardness.
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      • Author by Scousegit (April 19, 2011 12:59 pm ET)
           
        Abstinence does work most of the time
        http://www.uselesshumor.com/2009/02/abstinence-works-999-of-time.html
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    • Author by takemycountryback (April 19, 2011 11:43 am ET)
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      Can someone please "order" that Fox and Friends be taken off the air forever? I can't take it any more.
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    • Author by Pubs_are_the_problem (April 19, 2011 11:49 am ET)
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      People don't choose to be gay but they DO choose to be a bigot or not.

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      • Author by jarossiter (April 19, 2011 12:31 pm ET)
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        Actually it is a learned behavior. Certainly one that can be over-come, but it all starts in the home.
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        • Author by Pubs_are_the_problem (April 19, 2011 12:48 pm ET)
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          You have some REAL scientific proof of your claim?

          I am heterosexual yet all my best friends are ALL homosexual. Never had a desire to be with another man in a sexual way, heck I even tried to tell a few lesbians I am woman in a mans body yet it does not seem to work with them. In fact one of my friends was raised in a very strict Southern Baptist Church and Home and has NEVER been sexually attracted to women, in fact on a number of occasions he tried to be with women and it did not work, even to the point of being physically ill.

          Now ask your self why would a person choose a "lifestyle" where you are discriminated against in all aspects of your life?

          Homosexuality is not like religion where your can pick and choose what you want, you either are or are not gay. It's as simple as that.
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          • Author by cakesphere (April 19, 2011 1:26 pm ET)
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            100% this. Homosexuality has been observed in species other than humans.

            Do those other animals "choose" to be homosexual? No, saying an animal without the sense of self "chooses" homosexuality is ridiculous, and so is saying that it is a learned behavior in humans.

            My eye color is blue. I didn't choose for it to be blue. Same for sexual preference. You either like the other sex or you don't. There isn't a choice involved.

            Then again, the people bigoted against homosexuality might also say that the earth is 6000 years old.

            SCIENCE. IT WORKS, BITCHES.
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            • Author by kamrom (April 19, 2011 4:05 pm ET)
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              its more anti-intellectualism. You see it all the time.. "The big bang didnt happen, no one thinks it does" Except that everyone knows it did because we can see everything up until 10^-43 seconds after the big bang. We cant see from 10^-43 to 0. That is an amount of time so ridiculously small as to be incomprehendsible.

              The conservatives dont think the universe can be complicated. They are wrong and we have proof.

              I lost my faith in humanity when I heard someone say that god made the universe 6K years ago, and he created light IN TRANSIT to make it appear to be 13.7 billion years ago.

              What kind of lame ass god is that? If this is the end times as the christians claim (it isnt.) that means that a god created a very bizarre, random universe without rules, for the sole reason of confusing people in the last decades of earth's existance.

              Sounds like a jerk to me.
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          • Author by cakesphere (April 19, 2011 1:38 pm ET)
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            Also, apologies for the strong language.
            It just drives me nuts that people will overlook hard science just because it doesn't fit their narrow little worldviews.

            Their ignorance is hurting America and beyond that humanity as a whole.
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          • Author by MiniTru (April 19, 2011 2:10 pm ET)
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            You have some REAL scientific proof of your claim?
            I think jarossiter was referring to bigotry, not homosexuality.
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            • Author by Pubs_are_the_problem (April 19, 2011 2:39 pm ET)
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              I hope that bigotry is what he was referring to.

              Never know any more on sites like this too many are now paid and unpaid to defend all thing fox and conservative, no matter how ridiculous.

              That's the down side, along with it being to easy to take things the wrong way and with sarcasm being the hardest to get across.
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            • Author by JoeSixpack (April 19, 2011 2:56 pm ET)
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              D'oh. Sorry for the redundancy, MiniTru.
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          • Author by JoeSixpack (April 19, 2011 2:55 pm ET)
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            I could be wrong, but I really think that jarrositer was referring to bigotry as a learned behavior, not homosexuality. If you read it that way, it makes perfect sense.
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    • Author by cst (April 19, 2011 11:59 am ET)
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      ["Should Public School Teachers Be Ordered To Tell Their Students Why It's Okay To Be Gay?"]

      Should they be ordered to tell them it's NOT?
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    • Author by ThomasJH268 (April 19, 2011 1:51 pm ET)
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      I said that FOXPAC was pro-bullying.
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    • Author by Winski (April 19, 2011 3:27 pm ET)
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      Yes..and at the same time they can also tell their students that you have 'disappeared' from the face of the planet...
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    • Author by cugagcmu805031 (April 19, 2011 8:06 pm ET)
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      In my 33 years in the classroom, Killme, it was never a topic of discussion because it wasn't in the social studies curriculum guide handed down by the state of GA!
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    • Author by cardun (April 19, 2011 8:07 pm ET)
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      This should be taught at home. It's the parents job to instill whatever their values are NOT school. Schools need to teach the basics like Math, Science, etc....
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    • Author by Maimon (April 19, 2011 11:22 pm ET)
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      Should public school teacher be forced to call Fox news...news?
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