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Kristol: "closing the embassy in Yemen" is "a sign of weakness" and "a victory for al Qaeda"

January 04, 2010 2:24 pm ET

From the January 3 edition of Fox News Sunday:

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    • Author by MickD (January 04, 2010 2:29 pm ET)
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      Kristol needs to strap on a GWB package enhancer and get thee to the cliffs of Afghanistan. What the frick does he know about danger vs. "weakness?" The neocons truly have no compassion.
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      • Author by rkcomments (January 04, 2010 3:03 pm ET)
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        I'm waiting for this idiot to offer to man the embassy.

        As always, Kristol wants others to do the dirty and dangerous work while he sits in a nice office in DC.

        Shameful loser.
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    • Author by marco21 (January 04, 2010 2:30 pm ET)
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      Tool. Yes, it's brave to put embassy officials and employees in harms way. Does he really think this is the first time we've done this?

      Tool.
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    • Author by liberalXtian (January 04, 2010 2:39 pm ET)
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      Go for it Kristol! Get on a plane, bring the Cheneys and all the other Chicken Hawks in government and media, and go camp out at our Yemen embassy. Show us how strong and brave you people are.
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      • Author by edgewaterprog (January 04, 2010 6:13 pm ET)
           
        ...and Rush Limbaugh, and Glen Beck, and GWBush, and on, and on....
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    • Author by bintx (January 04, 2010 2:47 pm ET)
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      Oh, shut your mouth, you old fool. Nothing you have EVER said has been right. You speak BS with SUCH authority, though.
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      • Author by shaggles (January 04, 2010 3:07 pm ET)
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        Absolutely. Few people in the last decade or so have been as spectacularly wrong as often as Bill Kristol.
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    • Author by Marge (January 04, 2010 2:47 pm ET)
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      I agree with other posters. We should bundle Kristol up and send him to Yemen so he can man the embassy. We need men like him and beck, and hannity and rush and drudge to step up to the plate and go over there and put their lives in danger. Then we will see where the 'sign of weakness' comes in.

      But we would have to send ten years supplies of shorts they would be messing them every ten minutes.
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    • Author by DellDolly (January 04, 2010 2:49 pm ET)
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      Which is why, Billy Boy, that Obama doesn't talk about 'victory'. We can't totally, 100% defeat the terrorists. They are going to pose threats at times that are going to demand concessions from us! We can't have nor should we expect to win this war! It's a never-ending struggle. Bush was wrong to start calling it a war on terror in the first place but it was never a war that could be 'won'.
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      • Author by fantagor (January 04, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
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        I think we should start a War on Empty War Metaphors.

        Randy
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      • Author by edgewaterprog (January 04, 2010 6:19 pm ET)
           
        I agree DD...

        This should have always been seen as more law enforcement and less military action even if a lot of the work had to be done overseas.
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    • Author by all your eyes (January 04, 2010 2:51 pm ET)
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      Yeah, big victory for al Qaeda. Their attacks were foiled, and now they're getting shelled by the Yemeni military (with American support). Gee, the Bush administration never got involved this deeply in Yemen, they just let al Qaeda have it...
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    • Author by epkklk851 (January 04, 2010 3:02 pm ET)
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      And if our embassy in Yemen is bombed, and people are killed, he will say Obama's inattention to the safety of the State Department employees was lax. If it bothers him so much, why doesn't he hop on a plane and volunteer to man the embassy.
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    • Author by wzwriter (January 04, 2010 3:03 pm ET)
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      Using Kristol's "logic" Ronald Reagan showed weakness when he pulled our troops out of Lebanon after the Marine baraacks were bombed in 1983.....
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      • Author by epkklk851 (January 04, 2010 3:21 pm ET)
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        The embassy had already been bombed and 63 people killed before they bombed the Marine Barracks. I still have vivid memories of a Time magazine photo showing the body of some staffer hanging out of the rubble of two collapsed floors.
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        • Author by wzwriter (January 04, 2010 4:21 pm ET)
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          I forgot about the embassy bombing. The only reason the baracks bombing came to mind is that it happenned the day I married my second wife, and it was all over the TV when we woke up the next morning...
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        • Author by dbtexas (January 04, 2010 4:22 pm ET)
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          Was a sad time. I understand why Reagan left Lebanon. But, for the right to excoriate Obama over the Embassy in Yemen is beyond hypocrisy. These people have no shame. Their agenda is to defeat the Obama administration with complete disregard for any benefit to the US. How they have a following defies logic.
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          • Author by epkklk851 (January 04, 2010 4:34 pm ET)
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            As a Federal employee, who used to dread going through the NEO (non-combantant Evacuation Operations) exercises, I appreciate it when a President worries about the people who serve their countries overseas. I had no problem being overseas, and generally felt safer than in the States (not that I feel unsafe in my current neighborhood) but if there was danger, I wanted to know that they took it seriously. Fifty Pakistani guest workers were deported from Korea after 9/11, at least a couple of them were caught snooping around the walls of U.S. bases in the area. I was teaching on an Army base in California when the Marine Barracks was bombed. It bothered a lot of my students' parents.
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    • Author by New Frontier (January 04, 2010 3:23 pm ET)
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      Makes sense. Let's unlock the locked airline cockpits while we're at it. They're a "victory for al Qaeda", too.
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    • Author by Major Tom (January 04, 2010 3:28 pm ET)
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      "(INSERT OBAMA ADMINISTRATION ACTION HERE) is a sign of Weakness."
      Kristol is a walking ad lib.
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      • Author by ForTheLoveOfEllipsis... (January 04, 2010 6:01 pm ET)
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        "(INSERT OBAMA ADMINISTRATION ACTION HERE) is a sign of Weakness."

        That, Major, is the most concise summary of all conservative rhetoric post-November 2008 I have ever seen. Utterly perfect...
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    • Author by Samurai Cowboy (January 04, 2010 3:33 pm ET)
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      Bill needs to go open the embassy back up, and then stand outside and say "Come on down! Get yer visa's to the USA right here! No fee! No Criminal Back round check! Al Qaeda always welcome!"
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    • Author by snoopy (January 04, 2010 3:40 pm ET)
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      Translation: Nobody died when the undie bomber exploded in his pants so we need a really, really big failure with lots of american deaths to ensure a GOP victory in 2010!
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    • Author by goesto11 (January 04, 2010 3:55 pm ET)
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      I'm sure Kristol would agree that having to take off our shoes before going through airport security is also a victory for al Qaeda.

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      • Author by snoopy (January 04, 2010 3:57 pm ET)
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        I purposely wear my socks for a week before I hop on a plane and then go out of my way to profile someone who looks like a reichswiner so I can stand directly in front of him when I remove my shoes.
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        • Author by shaggles (January 04, 2010 5:15 pm ET)
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          I'm surprised you haven't been arrested for bringing a bio-hazard on a commercial airliner.
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      • Author by jeff191 (January 04, 2010 4:01 pm ET)
           
        KRISTOL and some of his fans secretly believe that Obamas election was a victory for AL-Queda
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    • Author by jeff191 (January 04, 2010 3:58 pm ET)
         
      O f course if this administration didnt close the embassy in Yemen ,then that would be a sign of incompetence or contempt for America or some such crap. it really does not matter what this admin does, Fox already knows how they are going to react
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    • Author by magnolialover (January 04, 2010 4:15 pm ET)
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      Jeez, this guy is a complete and utter moron. So we close the embassy (as did England as well), because we had good intelligence saying that AQ was planning some attacks, and we wanted to get our people out of the way before something bad happened. And this is a bad thing?

      These guys are amazing. And, again, completely idiotic.
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    • Author by rtejon (January 04, 2010 4:19 pm ET)
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      Does he actually want the premise of the film, "Rules of Engagement," to play out in real life? Seems to me we're avoiding that contingency, at least.
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    • Author by Lizinbklyn (January 04, 2010 4:34 pm ET)
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      A war in Iraq "could have terrifically good effects throughout the Middle East."
      ~~~Bill Kristol (9/18/02)

      Kristol got a military deferment in 1972 . .

      A real warrior with someone else's blood!!

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    • Author by Boxer1979 (January 04, 2010 4:39 pm ET)
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      Kristol: "closing the embassy in Yemen" is "a sign of weakness" and "a victory for al Qaeda"

      Bill Kristol is a student of Leo Strauss. Strauss believed Liberalism or the left was responsible for the weakness of this country and the neoconservative movement formed from his political views. We see where their political thoughts have gotten this country! Kristol is a nutjob!
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      • Author by bintx (January 04, 2010 5:16 pm ET)
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        Well, actually, Leo Strauss was a neo-classical liberal or a traditionalist. . . the name was changed to neo-conservatism because they associated more with the conservatives with regard to "classism" and hawkish intents. Many of Strauss's students and their buds were in the first Bush Administration . . . Wolfowitz was one of them.

        The neo-conservatives believe that they are the "intellectual elites" of society, the religious leaders and certain political leaders are the "middle men" and we . . . we're the "great unwashed, uneducated masses" who are there simply to act as pawns in their intellectual pursuits. They are a bunch of CREEPS.
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    • Author by hurricaneyankee52983 (January 04, 2010 4:55 pm ET)
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      Since when did KRISTOL care about diplomacy? All I ever heard him call for was military action for any problem.
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      • Author by wzwriter (January 04, 2010 5:33 pm ET)
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        Curious about Bill Kristol's personal experience with the military, I looked him up on Wikipedia and read the following:

        Kristol received a college deferment during the Vietnam war and did not enter military service.


        I find this very interesting for two reasons. First, yet another conservative chickenhawk. Second, according to Wikipedia, Kristol was born 28 days after me, so we're pretty much the same age. And when I turned 18, I registered with Selective Service and received a 1-S(H) classification, because I was in high school at the time. And once I graduated from high school, I was reclassified 1-A (available for unrestricted military service) because COLLEGE DEFERRMENTS HAD BEEN ELIMINATED A FEW YEARS EARLIER.

        Either Bill Kristol lied about his draft status, or someone screwed up his bio. I tend to believe it's the former more than the latter.
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    • Author by LIBERTY OR DEATH (January 04, 2010 7:40 pm ET)
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      It is not a sign of weakness to are government and the people of the united states its a safety issue but to Al Qaeda it is a victory and a perception of weakness.
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      • Author by magnolialover (January 04, 2010 8:56 pm ET)
           
        No it's not, you just think that it is.

        If Obama had left the embassy open, and AQ had bombed it, when we knew they were planning something, you guys would have been crying and moaning about how Obama was weak on terrorism about that as well.

        So by your assertion, if Bush knew 9/11 was going to happen, and he didn't evacuate the Pentagon, the Twin Towers, and a field in PA, he would have shown weakness against terrorism?

        You guys are amazingly dense. We had a threat warning, it was found credible, so we took our citizens out of harm's way before they were hurt, injured, or potentially killed. Yeah, that's some weakness right there.
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    • Author by bintx (January 05, 2010 8:40 am ET)
         
      Well, Yemen did what we told them to do . . . they took out the al Qaeda cell which had threatened the embassy . . . it was reopened today. Guess it wasn't a "sign of weakness" after all.
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    • Author by tman418 (January 05, 2010 7:07 pm ET)
         
      I'm sure that if Obama hadn't closed the embassy he would have said that he doesn't care about American workers (like Bush did when he closed the embassy).
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