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Live Action's New Planned Parenthood Attack Manufactures "Widespread" Sex-Selective Abortion Problem

May 29, 2012 11:34 am ET by Justin Berrier

Discredited anti-choice activist Lila Rose launched her latest video hoax, claiming that a highly edited video proves that Planned Parenthood is facilitating rampant "gendercide" in America. But statistics show that sex-selection simply does not happen with any regularity in the United States, as the vast majority of abortions are performed before gender is detectable, and the gender birth ratio in America is close to even.

Rose on Tuesday released undercover footage purporting to show a clinic worker in Austin, Texas, discussing health care options with a woman who claimed to want to terminate her pregnancy if she was carrying a girl. Live Action's accompanying petition suggests that Planned Parenthood is complicit in "Widespread sex-selection by means of abortion." This video hoax is part of a campaign aimed at "exposing the practice of sex-selective abortion in the United States and how Planned Parenthood and the rest of the abortion industry facilitate the selective elimination of baby girls in the womb."

But the first video demonstrates that Rose can show no such effort to facilitate rampant sex-selection abortion. 

In a companion post to the video, Live Action pointed to global statistics showing sex-selection in countries such as China and suggested a similar problem occurs in the United States, warning:

U.S. census data and national vital statistics show that indeed, sex-selection is a growing problem in America. Americans are employing sex-selection techniques in their reproductive decisions. 

But actual evidence shows that sex-selection in America is neither widespread nor growing. According to the CIA's World Factbook, the gender ratio at birth in the United States is 1.05 males to females, a rate that the Guttmacher Institute calls "squarely within biologically normal parameters." The United States simply does not have a gender imbalance that would indicate that sex-selection occurs with any regularity.

Further, most abortions are performed before gender is identifiable. The Centers for Disease Control reported that in 2008, 91.4% of abortions were performed before the 13th week of pregnancy. Robert Shmerling of Harvard Health Publications noted that gender identification by means of ultrasound, by far the most popular method, is usually only available by the 16th to 20th week. Although there are methods to detect gender earlier on in a pregnancy, "these procedures are usually performed to detect potential health problems such as Down's syndrome, spina bifida, or cystic fibrosis, not to find out a baby's gender."

As Planned Parenthood's Leslie Kantor and Carolyn Westhoff recently noted, Planned Parenthood "finds the concept of sex selection deeply unsettling" and the organization "does not offer sex determination services; our ultrasound services are limited to medical purposes." Kantor and Westhoff further noted:

Planned Parenthood condemns sex selection motivated by gender bias, and urges leaders to challenge the underlying conditions that lead to these beliefs and practices, including addressing the social, legal, economic, and political conditions that promote gender bias and lead some to value one gender over the other.

Planned Parenthood's mission mandates that it provides information to patients on all of their legal options in an environment free of judgment, and one that respects the privacy, rights, and choices of the individual. Explaining legal options to women who ask about them is a fulfillment of the organization's goal "to provide comprehensive reproductive and complementary health care services in settings which preserve and protect the essential privacy and rights of each individual."

Attempting to tie Planned Parenthood to a problem that does not occur with any regularity in the United States is further indication that Live Action, and its founder, Lila Rose, are willing to engage in dishonest and misleading campaigns to smear an organization with a history of dedication to improving women's health.

UPDATE: In a statement to The Huffington Post, Planned Parenthood responded to Live Action's latest attack:

A Planned Parenthood spokeswoman told The Huffington Post on Tuesday the staffer in the video "did not follow our protocol" for dealing with "a highly unusual patient scenario."

"Planned Parenthood insists on the highest quality patient care, and if we ever become aware of a staff member not meeting these high standards we take swift action," she said in a written statement. "Within three days of this patient interaction, the staff member's employment was ended and all staff members at this affiliate were immediately scheduled for retraining in managing unusual patient encounters. Today opponents of Planned Parenthood are promoting an edited video of that hoax patient encounter."

This spokeswoman for Planned Parenthood Federation of America also told The Huffington Post that the organization condemns seeking abortions on the basis of gender, but its policy is to provide "high quality, confidential, nonjudgmental care to all who come into" its health centers. That means that no Planned Parenthood clinic will deny a woman an abortion based on her reasons for wanting one, except in those states that explicitly prohibit sex-selective abortions (Arizona, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and Illinois).




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    • Author by ScienceBuff (May 29, 2012 11:38 am ET)
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      Another bogus attack. Looks like it's time for me to give PP another donation.
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      • Author by danielsangeo (May 29, 2012 5:27 pm ET)
           
        Ah hah! Rose is an undercover PP operative there to get people like you to give PP more money!!!

        </snark>
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    • Author by Boswell (May 29, 2012 11:43 am ET)
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      Lila never met a lie she would not promote
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    • Author by David2012 (May 29, 2012 11:44 am ET)
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      Lila Rose should mind her own business and apply her own conscience and beliefs to her own body and behavior, and leave other women alone to do the same.
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      • Author by whatIthink (May 29, 2012 11:49 am ET)
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        Exactly. Ahhh, remember those halcyon days when conservatives were so concerned about individual responsibility? Good times. Now we know individual responsibility doesn't include womens bodies, their medical rights or reproductive organs. Nope, those belong, in toto, to the Republican party.
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        • Author by Andy Kreiss (May 29, 2012 12:55 pm ET)
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          Yeah, shouldn't they be outraged that the gubmint is trying to decide whether you have a son or a daughter? What is that, some sort of unisex, gender-equality garble garble soshulism eqauality of outcome blort blort...

          I forgot what I was saying. But it was something about We the People!!!
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      • Author by shaggles (May 29, 2012 12:06 pm ET)
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        I remember once saying to a bible thumping co-worker something along the lines of 'Why is it that Republicans want the govt to stay out of people's business except for this one thing (abortion?)' Her response was 'They should have stayed out of it. They should have kept it illegal.' Classic.
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    • Author by historygeek001 (May 29, 2012 11:44 am ET)
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      Quick! Find some issue to use to get the Republican base out voting! The attacks on women aren't working! And Every time Romney opens his mouth people realize he's even more out of touch than we thought!
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    • Author by epkklk851 (May 29, 2012 11:51 am ET)
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      Lila Rose has been pulling these sorts of stunts since 2006. She pretended to be James O'Keefe's underage girlfriend seeking an abortion when she was 18 and not pregnant. She also recorded the calls for James while he pretended to donate money to Planned Parenthood to abort black babies. She's a homeschooled, upper class brat who puts videos out to discredit Planned Parenthood. She will not stop until she has succeeded in completely defunding the organization. She will lie or cheat to get what she wants. No fantasy is too sick, either.
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    • Author by Turkeysocks (May 29, 2012 11:57 am ET)
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      She's really starting to attack anything that would make PP look bad, the only problem is that most people aren't as stupid to fall for something like this. If people didn't fall for the whole "PP helps promote prostitution" thing, they aren't going to believe that "PP is gender biased and wants to abort as many girls as possible" thing.

      If anything, I think attacks like this is going to make more and more people come to realize how crazy this woman and Live Action are, and how crazy many anti-abortion groups really are too. Not all are, but most of them are either taken over by the extreme fringe of the anti-abortion people or formed by them.

      Speaking of which, I somehow would not doubt if Rose actually got kicked out of another group for her methods.
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      • Author by grmce (May 29, 2012 1:33 pm ET)
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        It looks like Ms. (who put the lie in) Lila Rose is engaging in the classic fallacy of transferral analogy: 1)There is abortion in China. 2)There is abortion in the United States. 3)Some of the abortion in China is gender based. Ergo, abortion in the U.S. is gender based.

        We had a similar problem in Australia some years back when the Right Whinge Murdoch hacks were looking for an issue and discovered that there were literacy problems in some U.S. schools. From that they extrapolated that there was a massive literacy crisis in the entire Australian public education system. We're still having trouble with the fallout from that.

        These liars not only need to be debunked but utterly destroyed as commentators on any matter and hounded from public life.
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        • Author by Turkeysocks (May 29, 2012 2:37 pm ET)
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          The issue is not the liar or even the lie. They will lose the argument eventually. But their aim is not to actually win the argument, but to caste doubt.

          It's the same tactic that the Nazi's used when they were starting their rise to power. Their arguments could be debunked, but it took time to do it. The only problem is that the Nazi's were pushing out fallacy after fallacy about everything from Jews, Gays, Gypsies, the mentally and physically handicapped, Communism, atheists, etc. etc..

          It's pretty similar to what the right wing media is doing.
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    • Author by magnolialover (May 29, 2012 11:58 am ET)
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      It appears that Ms. Rose has been attending the James O'Keefe school of video editing. When your video doesn't show what you want it to show, you change it around so that it does.

      Again, this is not how investigative journalism should be done. You don't come up with your conclusion BEFORE you do the journalism like Rose does.
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      • Author by Disputed Zone (May 29, 2012 12:06 pm ET)
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        "...one day I was jogging after work and I saw an ACORN, um, I was like, hmm, you know, I’ve never seen them before, I don’t like them..."

        Lila Rose, on becoming a conservative "journalist."
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      • Author by Another_Cat (May 29, 2012 2:54 pm ET)
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        Well, real journalism looks WAAAAY too much like the scientific method, which many of these clowns either; never learned, learned but don't think it works (despite all the evidence), or willfully ignore the benefits of using.

        Theory
        Testing
        Prove/Disprove/Modify
        Repeat

        Lila's Method:

        Theory - Planned Parenthood is bad.

        Testing - None needed, I know it's true!

        Proof - If I rearrange stuff or take it out of context, it looks like proof...that's good enough for me!

        Repeat - (unfortunately)
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    • Author by politeradical (May 29, 2012 12:00 pm ET)
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      The trogs hate-fetish for Planned Parenthood is creepy and disturbing.
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      • Author by dogbreath (May 29, 2012 1:34 pm ET)
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        You have to wonder what kind of people really focus their lives upon things like this...
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      • Author by bilbo_dies (May 29, 2012 1:37 pm ET)
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        The trogs hate-fetish for Planned Parenthood is creepy and disturbing.

        Only because it makes you wonder what their real issue is.

        Most of PP's clientele is from low income households who don't have any other options when it comes to health care. What are these people going to do if Lila (and others) succeed in shutting PP down?
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    • Author by NiceguyEddie (May 29, 2012 12:02 pm ET)
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      This is why I hate the DEMOCRATS.

      Becuase they stood idly by while the Right took down Acorn with lies and bushllit - actualy, no I take that back: They HELPED the Right tale down Acorn, many voting with their 'Republican bretheren' to defund them.

      And I will not be the least bit surprised to see them take what the (mistakenly, IMHO) believe to be the politicaly expedient route once again and remian silent while the Right rides roughshod over women's reproductive rights, or worse - supports their efforts to take down organizations that provide such needed and necessary MEDICAL services such as Planned Parenthood. (Which includes Cancer screenings, pre-natal care and contacective services.)

      If they rise up and condemn this nonsesne? And vote IN UNISON against any measures that will defund them? FINE. I'll take it back. but I've yet to see this kind of leadership from the Dem's, who have apparently forgoten who their constituency is.

      ------------------------------
      IMHO
      UTOPIA
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      • Author by politeradical (May 29, 2012 12:09 pm ET)
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        It is sad that the democratic party has been reduced to the abused wife in the right's insane bellicosity on social issues (along with pretty much everything else).
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        • Author by CrashGordon (May 29, 2012 12:51 pm ET)
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          Particularly when they were elected to stand up for their constituents. The reason the democrats took the House and the Senate in 2006 was because the people were tired of the republicans running roughshod over everything in their path. They were sent to represent the people and that's not what they are doing.
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      • Author by Imbecile (May 29, 2012 12:49 pm ET)
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        Sometimes, they (and the so-called liberal media) really do play into the "Well, Fox News and all those other Republican bloggers keep talking about it, so it must be true" mentality. They then adopt the "Gosh, even if what they're saying isn't true, look at all the attention it's getting. We should probably cave in to them so they stop yelling at us so much" mentality.
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        • Author by CrashGordon (May 29, 2012 12:54 pm ET)
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          I agree. And it's sad because the country is just screaming for truth and integrity. All it would take is for the real media to collectively find their b@lls, stand up and call BS when it's appropriate and a lot of this nonsense would end almost immediately.
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        • Author by grmce (May 29, 2012 2:28 pm ET)
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          Sometimes, they (and the so-called liberal media) really do play into the "Well, Fox News and all those other Republican bloggers keep talking about it, so it must be true" mentality.
          Surely it is time that a knee-jerk reaction of disbelief to Right Whinge propaganda be regarded as a mark of rationality.
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      • Author by wesley_fpt (May 29, 2012 6:50 pm ET)
           
        Great post. I never registered as a Democrat because of the way they let the Republicans off the hook for stealing Florida in 2000. Then they let the Bush administration get away with torture and all the Iraq lies, so I'm confident I made the right choice.
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      • Author by Unreality (May 29, 2012 9:59 pm ET)
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        Jackie Speier D-California is one member of the House who will not back down. She represents much of Silicon Valley, is very smart, highly dedicated, high energy, survived the shooting at Jonestown and had a late term abortion to literally save her life.

        We need more like her.

        I've had the honor to speak with her about medical technology and healthcare in an informal setting at UCSF and she is the real deal. No BS. Knows her stuff, listens to learn more, asks good questions and has a staff that is also wicked smart.
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    • Author by CoolSlaw (May 29, 2012 12:03 pm ET)
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      Who in America 2012 is actually thinking about ensuring a male heir? When was the last time anyone in America mentioned a desire to have male offspring for systemic advantage?

      or:

      Does this then prove definitively to the right that there is a glass ceiling and that women haven't achieved equality under the law?


      Sorry, but this is not only fraudulent and dishonest, it's bizarre and doesn't even make sense from a socio-economic standpoint.
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      • Author by epkklk851 (May 29, 2012 12:33 pm ET)
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        I was not pregnant when I lived in Korea, but I did have a friend who had a baby. In Korea, it is forbidden to tell the gender of the baby after the ultrasound because Koreans do practice gender selection and they have no problem with performing abortions. It shows up in Korean demographics, just like it does in China. I had only daughters, Koreans sometimes commented on my lack of a son. Ah, well. However, that doesn't make Lila's point true in the U.S.
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (May 29, 2012 1:20 pm ET)
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          Yes, this happens in other nations, which is what makes it possible for LiveAction to create this attack. We've heard the stories from nations like China who have a one-child rule and outdated, paternalistic property inheritance laws.

          I'm just wondering where these American families are that want to ensure male children are being born. I haven't ever once in my life heard an American couple lament the misfortune of having only girls, or more girls then boys, or anything like that.

          LiveAction is just spreading fear and lies.

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          • Author by epkklk851 (May 29, 2012 1:41 pm ET)
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            Well, I have heard, usually with some self-mockery, heard parents lament about having too many one gender. But for the most part, Americans seem to be happy with what they get. I don't understand the current trend amongst expectant mothers for demanding to know the sex so they can "bond" with the baby before hand. I didn't know that I was getting two daughters until they handed them to me. (The doctor told me it would be boys based on their heartrates.) A baby is a baby, and they should be loved for who they are, not some fantasy about what you think they will be.
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            • Author by grmce (May 29, 2012 2:51 pm ET)
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              The most common wish from expectant parents of my generation was "as long as it's healthy". I still hear it.
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              • Author by CoolSlaw (May 29, 2012 6:59 pm ET)
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                We can only then speculate that these right wingers promoting these outlandish conspiracies about "gendercide" are projecting. Apparently right wingers really do want a paternalistic male dominated society where a male heir retains a certain level of privilege while females are relegated to domestic tasks or concubine status.

                Why else would they come up with this nonsense?
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            • Author by Chameo (May 29, 2012 8:41 pm ET)
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              I know a few guys -- it's almost invariably guys -- who want a son to carry their name (my brother is one), and who still think that there's something wrong with them if they only "make girls". They're also usually uneducated and resent women in general.
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              • Author by CoolSlaw (May 30, 2012 12:51 am ET)
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                I'd bet the majority of the people like you describe are self identified "conservatives" who would never support abortion rights unless they were going to be the daddy in an unplanned pregnancy.
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                • Author by Chameo (May 30, 2012 10:14 am ET)
                     
                  You'd be right about the conservative tag -- thought most are apolitical, they espouse most of the beliefs and attitudes -- but an unplanned pregnancy wouldn't change their views on abortion. I'll say this for them -- and I'm not being snide on this at all -- they have convictions. At least one talked his ex-gf into having the baby and has full physical and legal custody. The daughter is 4 yo, beautiful and very well cared for.
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      • Author by Spiffy (May 29, 2012 12:41 pm ET)
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        That's another thing. China's problem with sex selection really says a lot more about the status of women in that society than it does about their attitude toward abortions. Take care of women's rights in China and the sex selection problem will solve itself.
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    • Author by CAL (May 29, 2012 12:15 pm ET)
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      The anti-abortion zealots are not a group that I respect at all. If a group has to lie and distort to make their "point", they shouldn't be given credibility. As a society, we have been forced to waste too much time and energy listening to this group scream, when a high percentage of them actually need professional counseling.

      They don't care about life. If they did, they'd focus their effort and energy toward things that would actually reduce the "need" for abortions. The fact that the zealots also oppose those things tells us all we need to know about them. It's not about life. It's about imposing THEIR rigid ideology on people whose personal decisions they wish to control.

      As I drive to work in the morning, I pass the strip mall where our Planned Parenthood is located. There are always a few dried up, completely disheveled appearing elderly blokes perched outside holding offensive signage. There is NO WAY these clowns have even the vaguest concept about young women in our society. These fools are simply bummed out that they can't control others pure and simple. It would never dawn on them they'd be far more successful if they focused actual effort on helping people, rather than berating them. Again, it tells us all we need to know. Another case of "conservatism" being a club for people ill-equiped to deal with reality.
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      • Author by Spiffy (May 29, 2012 12:36 pm ET)
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        Once you take the position that any of the other means by which the necessity for abortions could be reduced are unconscionable acts of socialism, or worse, that contraception itself is immortal, the only alternative is banning.

        Pro-choice people need to make this case emphatically though: We want to lower the number of abortions too. We just want to do it in a way that doesn't cause widespread human misery and most importantly actually works, by preventing unwanted pregnancies.
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        • Author by Unreality (May 29, 2012 10:06 pm ET)
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          Bill Clinton tried that approach, but there was much more money to be made by the guys (and they were almost exclusively men) promoting anti-abortion hysteria.

          Perhaps that's the direction we need to take to discredit them. Again and again I hear the canard that there's this "abortion industry" in the US that is only in it for the money. Having worked with OB/GYNs on cancer I don't see people going into abortions for the money.

          But without question there are large anti-abortion groups who raise funds whose only product or service is to pay themselves. The money certainly isn't getting to teens and young women to help with birth control or sex education. The fact is, as you note, the money is specifically designed to AVOID providing people with accurate sex education or providing effective birth control.
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      • Author by politeradical (May 29, 2012 1:06 pm ET)
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        Pro lifers bleat on and on about the how the country really is on their side. They think they haven't succeeded not because the population at large doesn't agree with them (which it doesn't). It's that people aren't sufficiently motivated or that they've been "silenced" by the liberal agenda.
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    • Author by Maimonides 03 (May 29, 2012 12:32 pm ET)
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      First it was Acorn, now the next target is Planned Parenthood. The idea is to cast doubt over this institution. We first saw a senator or congressman claim that 90% of PP's budget went to abortions. When called out on this fictious claim, his spoke person said he was just speaking "hypothetically". Then we saw an attempt to cut all federal funding for PP.

      This is the rightwing strategy:
      -cast doubt on a reliable institution
      -use invented stories, not facts
      -get as much airtime as possible for your fake stories

      People like Breitbart, O'Keef and Lila Rose are using this strategy. This is how it starts, silence voices,destroy things you disagree with and dehumanize your opponents.

      FORWARD...FORWARD...FORWARD
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      • Author by shaggles (May 29, 2012 12:48 pm ET)
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        "People like Breitbart, O'Keef and Lila Rose are using this strategy."

        Breitbart is dead. He is no longer using any strategy.
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        • Author by Maimonides 03 (May 29, 2012 3:45 pm ET)
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          I am aware that he died, but he did use the strategy as does his website...get a grip....lol
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    • Author by beDecent (May 29, 2012 1:01 pm ET)
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      These people make me sick. In their post, they link to the abstract, not full text, of an article from the American Economic Association's Applied Economics. The abstract reads:
      We offer evidence of gender selection within the United States. Analysis of comprehensive birth data shows unusually high boy-birth percentages after 1980 among later children (most notably third and fourth children) born to Chinese and Asian Indian mothers. Based upon linked data from California, Asian Indian mothers are found to be significantly more likely to have a terminated pregnancy and to give birth to a boy when they have previously only given birth to girls. The observed boy-birth percentages are consistent with over 2,000 "missing" Chinese and Indian girls in the United States between 1991 and 2004.
      This in no way supports Rose's thesis that there is a widespread problem of American mothers terminating female fetuses; it shows that this is a cultural problem that does need to be addressed, but criminalizing abortion will in no way solve it.

      Another linked article is about "customizing conception," or using preimplantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) via IVF to conceive a desired gender; again, not about terminating a female fetus.

      Live Action is skewing scholarly articles to support their made-up thesis. It's disgusting.
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    • Author by The_Cat (May 29, 2012 1:10 pm ET)
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      Planned Parenthood does take part in abortions. It accounts for 3% of their annual expenditures. So, in answer to a smear I've heard repeatedly on 'Christian' radio, no, Planned Parenthood does not 'worship at the altar of abortion'.

      It is currently legal to obtain an abortion due to the baby's sex in this country, that is true. It's equally true, based on the evidence, that it is not an epidemic.

      The truth of the matter is that, through free contraception, instruction on contraception, and working to maintain women's health, Planned Parenthood has prevented far more abortions than it has taken part in.

      The truth of the matter is that Planned Parenthood is one of the staunchest, most powerful allies that people seeking to reduce the number of abortions performed in this country can have.

      The truth of the matter is that abstinence only education is a complete and utter waste of time and money. Ask Bristol Palin.

      The truth of the matter is that if it's not helping rich white men, the Republicans/Faux Cons are against it, no matter what it is.
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      • Author by MiniTru (May 29, 2012 1:54 pm ET)
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        no, Planned Parenthood does not 'worship at the altar of abortion'.
        Anyone who says that worships at the altar of the Prince of Lies.
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        • Author by The_Cat (May 29, 2012 6:27 pm ET)
             
          I've heard it numerous times on the Jay Sekulow show, which is, unfortunately, carried by the Christian radio station I listen to at work.
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    • Author by cakesphere (May 29, 2012 1:37 pm ET)
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      I've run out of clever insults for these nuts, so I'll just say
      Go F*** Yourself, Lila Rose. I don't need you snooping around my vagina.
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      • Author by Maimonides 03 (May 29, 2012 4:44 pm ET)
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        I would like to solve the puzzle Pat....

        What is Go F@#$ yourself Lila Rose...yeah!!!!
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    • Author by Vryus (May 29, 2012 4:53 pm ET)
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      It seems that Obama Derangement Syndrome has exploded beyond the President and is now causing all kinds of derangement!
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      • Author by danielsangeo (May 29, 2012 4:58 pm ET)
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        I suggest, instead of "Obama Derangement Syndrome", we call it what it is: "Tribal Derangement Syndrome". Because that's what's happening here: Tribalism. Anything not-them is summarily attacked.

        These people are the quintessence of deranged.
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        • Author by CoolSlaw (May 29, 2012 7:07 pm ET)
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          While you are totally accurate in your description, the right wingers are too dull to understand the meaning of tribalism as you use it. They'll probably respond by saying stuff like:

          "I'm not some tribal guy dancing around for rain or running from a lion, man! Thats what those guys in socialist third world countries are...them are anti-colonial dudes from the country of Africa."

          You got to dumb it down for them.
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    • Author by Elow (May 29, 2012 5:01 pm ET)
         
      A hoax will not win support
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    • Author by PBVV (May 29, 2012 6:48 pm ET)
         
      Ms. Rose appears to harbor and hold an unhealthy obsession with Planned Parenthood.

      Does she work for some organisation and get paid to do this?

      Or, does this relentless obsession with all things Planned Parenthood stem from more private and personal historical reasons?

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